My body is annoying me - weird vacation reaction, advice needed big time!
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kristen6350 wrote: »Your body got used to the food you were giving in America. Ride it out. Try and get past the hunger. I'd say if you stick to your deficient (and still REALLY want to lose 2lbs/week) for 2-3 weeks your body will get used to it again.
Really? That's your final answer?
Hmm.. sounds funny, but that was the case with me. And I had developped an enormous thirst for coke and similar sweet drinks while I almost never drink anything sweet.0 -
I guess all the "healthier, better quality, non-insulting Austrailian foods" lead to weight gain too. Interesting.
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I agree that there is a lot of not so good quality foods available here, but there are many healthy foods too!
I am trying to take off weight because I ate to much period!
If I over ate the most healthiest foods and went over caloric allowance, I'd still be fat!
Maybe I'm hormonal today and overly sensitive. Shrug.
Glad to know Australia has all this superior food. I guess I will start an import business0 -
That does sound hormonal
Seriously though, I was very clear that I didn't have access to proper supermarkets when I was in the States and Canada. I'm sure there's brilliant food around, and with such a big country with large agricultural areas there must be masses of fresh produce. It just wasn't available where I looked. Instead I got products with ingredients lists longer than than... uh.. very long anyway
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SassyMoonbeams wrote: »SassyMoonbeams wrote: »Ride it out
It happens ...it could be air travel together with exercise together with hormones ..give it another couple of weeks
I think you could be aiming for 1-1.5lb loss now per week ..
Are you eating back exercise?
Yes I eat back all my exercise calories. That's partially why I work out so hard, so I can "afford" chocolate every night LOL
How are you judging your exercise burns?
I use a polar F7, I also have a fitbit but I rely on my polar for logging exercise calories
For your polar do you only use it for steady state cardio?
I have fitbit for general activity and a polar (FT4) for workouts .. I'm careful to take a percentage of the read on the polar based on what I'm doing .. just be careful you don't over-estimate here
by the way BFDeal is relatively negative a lot of the time .. I think he has issues with the fact that so many are very succesful at working the CICO equation .. so he keeps saying it doesn't work0 -
Vacations prove weight loss is stupid and doesn't make sense. I gained 20lbs in one week on my vacation a few weeks ago. Yes. You read that right. 20lbs in one week. 10 came off in the first few days but as of today I'm still 7lbs more than before I left. I know, you're thinking, "well you probably ate non-stop for 7 days. Nope. A few beers on the beach and barely ate until dinner. So that equals 3500 calories over a day? Nope. But still gained. Sometimes there's just no logic to it all.
I lost 4lbs on my vacation - because I moved a lot and watched what I ate - eating lots of fresh salads and minimal alcohol
give it a couple of weeks and then reassess .. you may not have eaten non-stop but you probably went over your targets coupled with air travel and water retention ..0 -
SassyMoonbeams wrote: »So I have lost about 110 lbs in the past year with the help of MFP and lifting. My goal is to lose about 50 more according to bmi.
Currently I weigh about 194, I'm 5'7" and 32 years old. MFP wants me to eat 1100 to lose 2 lbs a week but I have manually set at 1350 for months now.
Your deficit is too aggressive for your size. Read the Sexypants post: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
Connect your Fitbit: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/fitbit
Enable negative calorie adjustments: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
Set your goal to .5 lb. for every 25 lbs. you're overweight: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/change_goals_guided
Log your Polar burns & follow your MFP calorie goal, eating back your adjustments. For some fun motivation, get some friends in the Fitbit Users group & start doing Fitbit challenges: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1290-fitbit-users
Your Fitbit burn is TDEE (aka your maintenance calories). If you eat at a reasonable deficit from that, you will lose weight.0 -
SassyMoonbeams wrote: »SassyMoonbeams wrote: »I must say it was harder to find good quality food in America. It CAN be found but the standard of food i have grown accustomed to in Australia is superior by leaps and bounds in my opinion. For instance, I eat this beautiful pot set natural yogurt here in Oz that can be found at your basic supermarket, but the only decent yoghurt I could find in America, even at Whole Foods for Pete's sake, was very very different and paled in comparison sadly. I was just happy to find one that wasn't fat free at least! Not bashing America but I think we can all agree that for the most part the majority of foods on offer there are depressingly lacking in nutrition.
I'm not American nor do I live there but I'm pretty sure they have an amazing range of fresh produce
I lived in Canada most of my life, then moved to Australia ... and I've been quite pleasantly surprised by the food here in Australia. The fresh produce year round, the great selections on the shelf, like that pot set natural yogurt (so good!!), and so on.
From a Canadian perspective, you'd have to live in BC to get anything like it.
Yessssss girllll you know what I'm talking about!
I was born and raised in the us and have lived in Australia for over 8 years. I am not anti American, I love America and am currently working towards moving back to America. There is a difference between downright insulting and berating a country vs being critical. And yes there is a great range of good foods in America BUT it is more challenging to find the good, high quality stuff. One of my friends in az who is extremely conscious of healthful foods shops at a huge array of stores to get all the best she can. Whereas here in Oz you can get amazing quality just in one or two stores. They are much more strict about the food quality here. Truth. If I recall correctly, Oz won't even import American meats because of all of the hormones. If people choose to be insulted by the reality of this then that's fine but a little misguided?
Stutba I wish you well too, thank you. We will just have to agree to disagree. I was just saying that it is easier to make healthy food choices in Oz as the good quality food is, if nothing else, at least more readily available. That being said...australian mayonnaise is disgusting. It's SWEET. Blegh.
Yes, and I love Canadian food ... I've got a list of things I'll eat when I'm there. But as you say, it is so easy to find a wide variety of good choices here in Australia. Down here in Hobart, I've got a fresh fruit and veg market a hop, skip, and jump away from where I work with fresh fruit and veg, of course, but a variety of other good choices. And on my walk between uni and work, I often drop into Coles for fruit and also dinner choices. Then cross the road to the Asian market for more.
I've never tried the australian mayonnaise ... but I've noticed the same thing about pickles. I love dill pickles, but sometimes they are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles! Ick!
(I've been here 6 years ... and one day will return to Canada. But I'm not quite ready yet. )
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Vacations prove weight loss is stupid and doesn't make sense. I gained 20lbs in one week on my vacation a few weeks ago. Yes. You read that right. 20lbs in one week. 10 came off in the first few days but as of today I'm still 7lbs more than before I left. I know, you're thinking, "well you probably ate non-stop for 7 days. Nope. A few beers on the beach and barely ate until dinner. So that equals 3500 calories over a day? Nope. But still gained. Sometimes there's just no logic to it all.
I lost 4lbs on my vacation - because I moved a lot and watched what I ate - eating lots of fresh salads and minimal alcohol
give it a couple of weeks and then reassess .. you may not have eaten non-stop but you probably went over your targets coupled with air travel and water retention ..
We drove. I can see going over but 3500 over a day? Not likely. As I said though, there's seldom any real logic to weight loss. I ate at a deficit from the end of February until the week of my vacation. Got down to 222. Now I'm 229. It simply defies logic that I hate 3500 calories over each day. CICO may work but no one seems to ever explain why it work so poorly for some and so skewed in one direction instead of the other. If I can't lose 7lbs of fat in a week why can I gain 7lbs of fat in a week? Anyone? McFly? Hello?
it's not fat
it's water
maybe some fat
you've been told over and over again how it works
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SassyMoonbeams wrote: »You only have 50 pounds to lose... Decrease your goal to losing 1 pound a week.
But honestly? My vacation last July is what totally messed me up too. I was down to my lowest just before I left (2 pounds from my goal). Now close to a year later I'm still 1 pound heavier. Never managed to get back on track after I came back because yes, I'm just hungrier. And that's with eating pretty much at maintenance. It's not a huge deal as it's still close to my goal and I've lost some inches, but yes it's frustrating!
So strange!! Maybe it's cause we've been at such a restriction for so long that once we go to maintenance our body refuses to go back?? Maybe your body is just happy where it is now?? So weird!
No....when I started my weight loss for the last time I was at 205 and your height...my calories for 1lb a week were 1600 (including exercise) but it wasn't a lot of exercise to be frank.
I could eat chocolate every night and still do...and as you can see...I lost the weight...took a while but I still did it.0 -
If I can't lose 7lbs of fat in a week why can I gain 7lbs of fat in a week? Anyone? McFly? Hello?
Weight loss is not linear. Some weeks you do everything right but maintain—or even gain. Others you lose a whole lot in a "whoosh."
Take measurements and progress photos. Have other metrics, like strength & endurance.
If you have a Fitbit or Withings account, sync it (for free) with TrendWeight.com to see the trend without the "noise" from water weight.
And for good ""MFP 101" advice, read the Sexypants post:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p10 -
SassyMoonbeams wrote: »SassyMoonbeams wrote: »I must say it was harder to find good quality food in America. It CAN be found but the standard of food i have grown accustomed to in Australia is superior by leaps and bounds in my opinion. For instance, I eat this beautiful pot set natural yogurt here in Oz that can be found at your basic supermarket, but the only decent yoghurt I could find in America, even at Whole Foods for Pete's sake, was very very different and paled in comparison sadly. I was just happy to find one that wasn't fat free at least! Not bashing America but I think we can all agree that for the most part the majority of foods on offer there are depressingly lacking in nutrition.
I'm not American nor do I live there but I'm pretty sure they have an amazing range of fresh produce
I lived in Canada most of my life, then moved to Australia ... and I've been quite pleasantly surprised by the food here in Australia. The fresh produce year round, the great selections on the shelf, like that pot set natural yogurt (so good!!), and so on.
From a Canadian perspective, you'd have to live in BC to get anything like it.
Yessssss girllll you know what I'm talking about!
I was born and raised in the us and have lived in Australia for over 8 years. I am not anti American, I love America and am currently working towards moving back to America. There is a difference between downright insulting and berating a country vs being critical. And yes there is a great range of good foods in America BUT it is more challenging to find the good, high quality stuff. One of my friends in az who is extremely conscious of healthful foods shops at a huge array of stores to get all the best she can. Whereas here in Oz you can get amazing quality just in one or two stores. They are much more strict about the food quality here. Truth. If I recall correctly, Oz won't even import American meats because of all of the hormones. If people choose to be insulted by the reality of this then that's fine but a little misguided?
Stutba I wish you well too, thank you. We will just have to agree to disagree. I was just saying that it is easier to make healthy food choices in Oz as the good quality food is, if nothing else, at least more readily available. That being said...australian mayonnaise is disgusting. It's SWEET. Blegh.
Yes, and I love Canadian food ... I've got a list of things I'll eat when I'm there. But as you say, it is so easy to find a wide variety of good choices here in Australia. Down here in Hobart, I've got a fresh fruit and veg market a hop, skip, and jump away from where I work with fresh fruit and veg, of course, but a variety of other good choices. And on my walk between uni and work, I often drop into Coles for fruit and also dinner choices. Then cross the road to the Asian market for more.
I've never tried the australian mayonnaise ... but I've noticed the same thing about pickles. I love dill pickles, but sometimes they are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles! Ick!
(I've been here 6 years ... and one day will return to Canada. But I'm not quite ready yet. )
I got one word. Poutine. nuff said.
I love Canadian food. Our fresh new potatoes, NB strawberries, raspberries, blueberries. Quebec Cheese, alberta beef...Nova Scotia scallops, mussels, clams, north shore lobster, Newfoundland cod...0 -
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Chronic undereating will not get you to goal any more quickly. The less you have to lose, the more slowly it comes off. That's just the way the human body works. A healthy, sustainable loss is .5 lb. per week for every 25 lbs. you're overweight.
The more you lose (congratulations on your loss!), the smaller the margin of error. I've logged for 900 days straight, and I don't consider myself "beyond the Sexypants post." I reread it regularly to help me tighten up my logging and get back on track.0 -
I don't see anything too strange in your story except that you haven't lost anything in the 3 weeks since you got home. I would have to guess it is just water retention. Do you only weigh yourself once a week or every day? Since you are 5'7", you should be losing significantly on 1500.
I don't see any America bashing here, but in the U.S., I think it is easy to find almost whatever food you can imagine if you live relatively close to a major city. That is not true of most of the other places I have been to in the world. Hormone-free, gluten-free, grass-fed (and whatever other buzzwords you can put on the label) meat can be easily found. Comparing fresh produce isn't fair because Aussies live closer to the equator and have a better growing season. If you just came to the U.S. a month ago, we aren't even anywhere near peak growing season yet. Most of our produce is coming from hothouses or is trucked in from 1000 miles away right now. We can only get the really tasty local grown stuff in late spring through early fall here in the DC region.0 -
editorgrrl wrote: »If I can't lose 7lbs of fat in a week why can I gain 7lbs of fat in a week? Anyone? McFly? Hello?
Weight loss is not linear. Some weeks you do everything right but maintain—or even gain. Others you lose a whole lot in a "whoosh."
Take measurements and progress photos. Have other metrics, like strength & endurance.
If you have a Fitbit or Withings account, sync it (for free) with TrendWeight.com to see the trend without the "noise" from water weight.
And for good ""MFP 101" advice, read the Sexypants post:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
I've lost way more than my ticker indicates. I'm beyond the sexypants thread. I know how to lose weight. I just want logical explanations about why it's so skewed one way. Why does eating what feels like next to nothing produce only a modest loss but eating probably only slightly more than TDEE (seriously, there is no way I ate 3500 calories over a day) produce a gain of 7lbs (more if you count the water). Where is the science there?
Never underestimate the magnitude of water retention. When I am very glycogen depleted, I can gain up to 12 pounds the day after a refeed (in one day!), and that is when I only go over TDEE by a few hundred.0 -
I guess all the "healthier, better quality, non-insulting Austrailian foods" lead to weight gain too. Interesting.
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I agree that there is a lot of not so good quality foods available here, but there are many healthy foods too!
I am trying to take off weight because I ate to much period!
If I over ate the most healthiest foods and went over caloric allowance, I'd still be fat!
Maybe I'm hormonal today and overly sensitive. Shrug.
Glad to know Australia has all this superior food. I guess I will start an import business
........ I never said aussie food doesn't lead to weight gain.....I never said you can't find good quality food in America. Lol You are creating strawman arguments and putting words in my mouth.......there's a lot of crap here too and oz has an obesity problem as well. I was simply saying, once again, that the general overall standard of food quality here is higher. Maybe you're too busy being offended by everything to understand this?
And it's not just the fact that we have possibly more of an abundance of produce....it's also the culture. More people here, FROM MY OBSERVATIONS, know how to cook. There is a lot more emphasis on healthful eating as well.
And btw I gained weight while here because i went through a severe depression and I ate the JUNK.
Anyway i'm not responding to you anymore because I'm finding your attitude to be increasingly abrasive
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I lived in Australia for almost 5 years, put on a lot of weight when I returned to the USA. I agree the quality of food Downunder, New Zealand's is fab too, is awesome. You have to have access to Whole Foods and farmers' markets to get anything like it here. And you can not get the fresh food quality here unless you're in Alaska or Hawaii. I bought food for a day or two at a time, it was easy to do down there.
I put on a lot of weight in AU, but I easily dropped it when I finished pigging out on all the wonderful new foods and wines. I finally realized all the goodness wasn't going away and just ate normally again, that and beach walking resulted in the easiest weight loss of my life.
USA has so much added sugars and salt. The poster referring to European foods has the wrong point of reference. European markets are good, but even they are not the high quality and affordable level of AU and NZ food stuffs.
Sassy, just eat the great veggies, fish, & lean meats with some of the magnificent fruits that are in every neighborhood and you'll drop those extra lbs. Good for you, doing the lifting as well.0 -
I'd love to go to Canada some day....I've got a friend in Montreal and another in Ottawa and I love me some hockey! Funny story, here in Melbourne I went to a hockey game a couple weeks ago and even they were serving poutine LOL.
Yes, and I love Canadian food ... I've got a list of things I'll eat when I'm there. But as you say, it is so easy to find a wide variety of good choices here in Australia. Down here in Hobart, I've got a fresh fruit and veg market a hop, skip, and jump away from where I work with fresh fruit and veg, of course, but a variety of other good choices. And on my walk between uni and work, I often drop into Coles for fruit and also dinner choices. Then cross the road to the Asian market for more.
I've never tried the australian mayonnaise ... but I've noticed the same thing about pickles. I love dill pickles, but sometimes they are hard to find ... it's all sweet pickles! Ick!
(I've been here 6 years ... and one day will return to Canada. But I'm not quite ready yet. )
Yeah that's exactly it....it's so good you understand what I'm saying. There are fresh fruit and veg markets EVERYWHERE here. Even the bread they bake fresh at my local Coles, I mean it's a variety of high quality breads from white to sourdough to seeded and whole grain. My mom always gets excited when she comes to visit me cause of that bread (not that I eat any of it anymore lol)!
Ugh YESSS the pickles. I've gotten used to them, I guess the saltiness offsets the sweetness a bit. Don't even TRY the mayo. It's god awful. A good brand you can find in most specialty European deli's is Tomy.0 -
[quote="BFDeal;32559310"]Vacations prove weight loss is stupid and doesn't make sense. I gained 20lbs in one week on my vacation a few weeks ago. Yes. You read that right. 20lbs in one week. 10 came off in the first few days but as of today I'm still 7lbs more than before I left. I know, you're thinking, "well you probably ate non-stop for 7 days. Nope. A few beers on the beach and barely ate until dinner. So that equals 3500 calories over a day? Nope. But still gained. Sometimes there's just no logic to it all.[/quote]
No, this is not "proof". This is just your experience. I've been at maintenance for years, but 3 years ago when I went to Maui for a week I came home 5 lbs. lighter. Three years before that I went on a 4-day work related trip and lost 5 lbs. For some of us not having our regular, go-to foods around cause us to eat less. Plus, there's generally increased activity.0 -
I don't see anything too strange in your story except that you haven't lost anything in the 3 weeks since you got home. I would have to guess it is just water retention. Do you only weigh yourself once a week or every day? Since you are 5'7", you should be losing significantly on 1500.
I don't see any America bashing here, but in the U.S., I think it is easy to find almost whatever food you can imagine if you live relatively close to a major city. That is not true of most of the other places I have been to in the world. Hormone-free, gluten-free, grass-fed (and whatever other buzzwords you can put on the label) meat can be easily found. Comparing fresh produce isn't fair because Aussies live closer to the equator and have a better growing season. If you just came to the U.S. a month ago, we aren't even anywhere near peak growing season yet. Most of our produce is coming from hothouses or is trucked in from 1000 miles away right now. We can only get the really tasty local grown stuff in late spring through early fall here in the DC region.
I weigh myself every few days lately to get an idea. But usually once a week. I also found that my Body went through almost what seemed like a detox period where, once I started eating good foods again, my body was NOT reacting well. I guess it was getting rid of all the crap I had eaten while on vacation. I'm gonna check how I fare on 1600 a week from now.
That is a very very very good point about the produce season. I wasn't just referencing produce though, but foods in general.0 -
SassyMoonbeams wrote: »You only have 50 pounds to lose... Decrease your goal to losing 1 pound a week.
But honestly? My vacation last July is what totally messed me up too. I was down to my lowest just before I left (2 pounds from my goal). Now close to a year later I'm still 1 pound heavier. Never managed to get back on track after I came back because yes, I'm just hungrier. And that's with eating pretty much at maintenance. It's not a huge deal as it's still close to my goal and I've lost some inches, but yes it's frustrating!
So strange!! Maybe it's cause we've been at such a restriction for so long that once we go to maintenance our body refuses to go back?? Maybe your body is just happy where it is now?? So weird!
No....when I started my weight loss for the last time I was at 205 and your height...my calories for 1lb a week were 1600 (including exercise) but it wasn't a lot of exercise to be frank.
I could eat chocolate every night and still do...and as you can see...I lost the weight...took a while but I still did it.
Guess I'm just going to have to man up and switch to 1 lb a week. I'm definitely not giving up my chocolate either haha! I'd go crazy!0 -
SassyMoonbeams wrote: »SassyMoonbeams wrote: »Ride it out
It happens ...it could be air travel together with exercise together with hormones ..give it another couple of weeks
I think you could be aiming for 1-1.5lb loss now per week ..
Are you eating back exercise?
Yes I eat back all my exercise calories. That's partially why I work out so hard, so I can "afford" chocolate every night LOL
How are you judging your exercise burns?
I use a polar F7, I also have a fitbit but I rely on my polar for logging exercise calories
For your polar do you only use it for steady state cardio?
I have fitbit for general activity and a polar (FT4) for workouts .. I'm careful to take a percentage of the read on the polar based on what I'm doing .. just be careful you don't over-estimate here
by the way BFDeal is relatively negative a lot of the time .. I think he has issues with the fact that so many are very succesful at working the CICO equation .. so he keeps saying it doesn't work
Steady state cardio? Hmmmmm......i just googled it. I guess so? My workouts consist of lifting plus 36 minutes of turbojam three days a week, Endurance and cardio and ab work one hour a week, and the other 3 days a dance workout like Richard Simmons or Shaun T's rockin body for about an hour each. I exercise every day because otherwise I would eat the house down. Also means more chocolate lol.
Can you give me an example of what percentage you take from your workouts? Most days I burn around 600ish calories.
Thanks for the heads up!
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editorgrrl wrote: »SassyMoonbeams wrote: »So I have lost about 110 lbs in the past year with the help of MFP and lifting. My goal is to lose about 50 more according to bmi.
Currently I weigh about 194, I'm 5'7" and 32 years old. MFP wants me to eat 1100 to lose 2 lbs a week but I have manually set at 1350 for months now.
Your deficit is too aggressive for your size. Read the Sexypants post: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
Connect your Fitbit: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/fitbit
Enable negative calorie adjustments: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings
Set your goal to .5 lb. for every 25 lbs. you're overweight: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/change_goals_guided
Log your Polar burns & follow your MFP calorie goal, eating back your adjustments. For some fun motivation, get some friends in the Fitbit Users group & start doing Fitbit challenges: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1290-fitbit-users
Your Fitbit burn is TDEE (aka your maintenance calories). If you eat at a reasonable deficit from that, you will lose weight.
Thanks hun! Great idea to get some fitbit friends....
.5 lbs for every 25 lbs you're overweight? I'm not sure I understand what you mean? .5 lbs to lose per week? So if I'm 50lbs overweight i I should be losing 1 lb a week?0 -
Yeah I don't think this has anything to do with USA vs UK. I think it's more that you've lost 110lbs already, you're smaller so you're obviously going to be losing weight more slowly now. That's normal and to be expected, and you should embrace that so as to minimize lean muscle loss.
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SassyMoonbeams wrote: »SassyMoonbeams wrote: »You only have 50 pounds to lose... Decrease your goal to losing 1 pound a week.
But honestly? My vacation last July is what totally messed me up too. I was down to my lowest just before I left (2 pounds from my goal). Now close to a year later I'm still 1 pound heavier. Never managed to get back on track after I came back because yes, I'm just hungrier. And that's with eating pretty much at maintenance. It's not a huge deal as it's still close to my goal and I've lost some inches, but yes it's frustrating!
So strange!! Maybe it's cause we've been at such a restriction for so long that once we go to maintenance our body refuses to go back?? Maybe your body is just happy where it is now?? So weird!
No....when I started my weight loss for the last time I was at 205 and your height...my calories for 1lb a week were 1600 (including exercise) but it wasn't a lot of exercise to be frank.
I could eat chocolate every night and still do...and as you can see...I lost the weight...took a while but I still did it.
Guess I'm just going to have to man up and switch to 1 lb a week. I'm definitely not giving up my chocolate either haha! I'd go crazy!
It seems like a long time but of course weight loss is not linear...add in exercise and you will be surprised at how many calories you could eat and still lose.
Love my chocolate...I eat 1 bar of Cadbury dairy milk almost every night...not sure I could have done this for as long as I have without it...and I don't mean just losing but maintenance as well...good luck with the rest of your weight loss and if you ever get to Canada gotta eat a poutine with cheese curds...from Quebec...0 -
I live in Canada, the Toronto area and before that the Niagara area, and you definitely have to know where to buy the "higher quality" food. I don't know what Australia is like, but for example, if you want high quality artisan bread here, you wouldn't buy it at a supermarket - even the more expensive supermarkets. You would go to a bakery, a good one. Same for cakes and pastries. If you wanted better fruits and veggies, you would drive out to a farmer's market or a road side stand beside a farm and find something better (maybe). For meat, you could probably do that same and find a farmer or go to a local butcher you trust. For restaurants, you would need to search Urbanspoon and find ratings on places for food quality. So it's more work here to get higher food quality, I agree. It's easier to go to a grocery store and get it all at one place. I don't believe we have hormones in our meat/milk in Canada. I've been to Montreal twice, and the restaurant quality is better on average, but you still need to check out the ratings online. I think the supermarkets are about the same in that you would go to a butcher, baker, farmer to get higher quality foods.0
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Blueseraphchaos wrote: »I'd just like to add that bmr is what you need for your body to function normally while bed-ridden, while tdee is what you burn in a day with normal activity. If you are starving all the time and eating less than your bmr, that is probably why. Try eating eat at least your bmr and if you feel the need, cut back after awhile. Good luck.
Yah no....TDEE is total burn including exercise. NEAT is what you burn from normal activity.
You can eat less than your BMR for a while it's not as ad as most think.
Yeah no sorry, i had just woken up and misspoke. However, my point about bmr still stands...eat too far under it for too long and you will burn out.0 -
I think the quality of food and the produce really depends on the region of the U.S. you happen to be in. Where I live (in the southern U.S.) there are tons of farms, so we have lots of roadside produce stands and farmers markets full of local produce, and it's CHEAP!
We also have lots of little local shops like bakeries and stuff. I've never been to Australia but I somehow doubt there are more farms in Australia than there are here.
Photo I took of one of our local farmers markets:
Small farmers market haul from last week:
From the same farmers market as above: bread from a local bakery, honey, and berries all locally made or grown here in Mississippi
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