Lifting and ganining weight.
Jenafun
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I just started back to the gym about 5 weeks ago. I decided I wanted to combine cardio along with weight training, which I usually just did cardio. I do not weigh myself often but I have noticed that I've gained 4 pounds... However my body is changing, I see new muscle growth and my clothes are starting to fit better in areas. Is it best to lose weight first before lifting? I'm above the weight that I'm suppose to be already so losing weight is one of my goals along with building lean muscle.
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As long as you are eating at a deficit (consuming less than your body burns throughout the day) then you will be able to lose weight. Lifting doesn't mean weight gain unless your nutrition also matches that goal (eating at a surplus).
Have to remember that many things affect our weight throughout the weeks. Hormones, sodium, starting a new fitness routine, and such can all show some increase on the scale at times.
I started lifting while still obese and I'm not quite overweight yet but I'm almost there. However, I've lost just over 50 lbs thanks to eating at a deficit. I do cardio to reach certain goals I have for fitness and I lift weights because I like it and it helps to preserve muscle instead of losing both muscle and fat.
After 5 weeks, great that the body shape is going how you want and if the few pounds worry you then maybe look at the nutrition side and see if that needs adjusted a little.0 -
Weight is a terrible metric to base your success on. Case in point, you could cut off your arm and lose about 10 - 20lbs right now. Would that be satisfying? Stepping on the scale and seeing that wonderful weight loss?
If you’re smaller, you’ve lost fat! That is the goal you should have. Lifting helps you retain/gain muscle, which is awesome. Losing fat is awesome. So, what you’re doing is working, why would you change now?
Throw the scale away. Focus on how you look and feel. Take body measurements (neck, chest, stomach, waist, hips, upper arms, and upper legs) if you’d like more positive data points.0 -
you should probably weigh yourself a bit more often so that you can actually track a trend of some kind. You should do this on the same day, same time, and under roughly the same conditions...most people can fluctuate a good 3-5 Lbs day to day just from water and waste fluctuations.
Without any data points you cannot perform any meaningful trend analysis. Given that weight loss isn't a linear function, trend analysis is your friend.0 -
5 weeks is great, keep it up.
I'm not an expert. I've yo-yo'ed a few times. I'm on my 3rd or 4th MFP account and I've tried everything from only running to 18 months of CrossFit. Regardless, I wouldn't go off of what the scale says, especially if you're doing weight training and cardio. DawnEmbers is right, keep up the deficit and you will lose weight, if you're eating right, it should mostly be fat loss. Sodium and hormones totally have an effect on water retention and bloating, so keep what DawnEmbers said in mind. If you're tracking your progress daily, you'll see trends that will tell you how you're doing.
Focus on your Non-scale victories, (NSV). If you look better, and you feel better, just continue what you're doing and congratulate yourself with your accomplishments.
However, if you really want to track your results, you need to record measurements to identify changes. I suggest things like body measurements and body fat percentage. (just remember the daily trends will go up and down).
It may not be for everyone, but I've found that tracking daily body fat percentage helps me follow my progress to see how much fat I'm actually losing.
For instance:
I'm 6'4"
03/15 - 249.9lbs/30.6%fat - 76.5 lbs of fat - 30.4 BMI (Obese)
05/07 - 243.7lbs/26.2%fat - 64.0 lbs of fat - 29.7 BMI (Overweight)
The difference is negative 6.2 lbs total mass, but negative 12.5 lbs of fat.
(I've found the Durnin and Womersley formula with calibers to by my personal preference on accurately tracking body fat, but these recent percentages were taken with an Aria scale)
As far as losing weight and then starting lifting, I researched the same question and got conflicting answers.
Pro weight loss before weight training:
The basic argument here was that fat does not turn into muscle. If you want to lose fat you have to be in a calorie deficit, period. If you want to gain muscle mass, you need to increase your caloric intake, (and lift heavy weight).
Pro weight training to lose fat:
The pro weight training argument is if you're just lifting to get strong then you will benefit from the muscle you build over a longer time frame. This camp says that muscle burns calories even after you've finished your workout. Something small like, let's say an extra 20-50 calories a day, but those extra calories stack as you continue training. They look at it like those extra calories come to 140-350 a week, or 7300-18250 calories a year. Since the estimate lb of fat is 3500 calories, this is 2.08 - 5.21 bonus lbs of fat loss.
My personal opinion, eat to lose fat, do cardio to increase the deficit, and lift weight to get stronger. After 5 weeks you probably.
BTW, after all that research I just went with what felt good, I decided to do diet, cardio, and strength training. Current program is 500 calorie deficit (net), Stronglifts 5x5, and Couch to 5k.
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Thanks for all the advice, I'm finally seeing the weight come down, slowly. I'm happy to say that I'm noticing new muscle growth each week. (Looking in the mirror and being wowed by my body changing shape!) Only have lost 6 pounds over the past 2 months but my body is way more toned and slender than before, feels great!0
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