Skipping meals leads to more fat creation and insulin resistance according to new study
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cbsnews.com/news/skipping-meals-may-increase-belly-fat-study-finds/
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.
The mice that fasted and then gorged didn't just regain weight, however. They also developed insulin resistance in their livers. The researchers explained that when the liver doesn't respond to insulin signals telling it to stop producing glucose, that extra sugar in the blood ends up stored as adipose tissue, more commonly known as fat, in the body.
"Even though they were consuming the same amount of energy [calories], they were storing it differently -- storing it as adipose tissue," Belury said. The adipose tissue -- fat -- accumulated around the organs in the mice's midsections.
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In other news: Study finds that listening to Bieber will make your children behave better.
http://www.spin.com/2013/01/justin-bieber-music-will-make-your-kids-better-people-ridiculous-study-finds/0 -
chivalryder wrote: »In other news: Study finds that listening to Bieber will make your children behave better.
http://www.spin.com/2013/01/justin-bieber-music-will-make-your-kids-better-people-ridiculous-study-finds/
^^I love how its labels a ridiculous study.
OP: The study talks more about fasting and then binging. I didn't really take away skipping one meal over the course of a day to lead to weight gain.0 -
The study is on mice, not humans, and they didn't control calories, and the mice gorged.
That's basically exactly how I got fat. I was a student, worked my *kitten* off all day without eating, then ate a huge dinner before bed with no regard for what I ate.
I now practice IF when cutting and lose at a very good rate, but I know what I'm putting in my body in terms of energy.0 -
The name "bieber" makes my 14 year old son go psychotic...a game my 11 year old daughter very much enjoys0
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chivalryder wrote: »In other news: Study finds that listening to Bieber will make your children behave better.
http://www.spin.com/2013/01/justin-bieber-music-will-make-your-kids-better-people-ridiculous-study-finds/
LOL!
OP, I’m the same way - I break my fast around noon and just have a coffee in the mornings. I wouldn’t put too much stock in this study - I haven’t looked at the actual report, but it sounds really iffy to me. I’m perfectly happy saving my calories for later in the day. Plus, what does “skipping meals” even mean? It’s not as if there’s some natural set pattern of eating. The whole breakfast/lunch/dinner idea only evolved because of habits.0 -
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cbsnews.com/news/skipping-meals-may-increase-belly-fat-study-finds/
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.The mice that fasted and then gorged didn't just regain weight, however. They also developed insulin resistance in their livers. The researchers explained that when the liver doesn't respond to insulin signals telling it to stop producing glucose, that extra sugar in the blood ends up stored as adipose tissue, more commonly known as fat, in the body.
"Even though they were consuming the same amount of energy [calories], they were storing it differently -- storing it as adipose tissue," Belury said. The adipose tissue -- fat -- accumulated around the organs in the mice's midsections.
But if you don't gorge, you may not have the same results. Plus mice=/=humans.
If you eat at a calorie deficit and fast, you won't gain weight. It's scientifically impossible to gain weight on a calorie deficit. Also, I've seen plenty of lean people who do IF successfully and don't have extra adipose tissue. They must be snowflakes. Just proves correlation=/=causation.0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »The study is on mice, not humans, and they didn't control calories, and the mice gorged.
That's basically exactly how I got fat. I was a student, worked my *kitten* off all day without eating, then ate a huge dinner before bed with no regard for what I ate.
I now practice IF when cutting and lose at a very good rate, but I know what I'm putting in my body in terms of energy.
I think the point was where the rodents gained fat, not that they did gain fat.0 -
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Those on the restricted eating plan initially lost weight, but gained it back when more calories were restored to their diets.
aka they ate more than they burned and gained weight.0 -
cbsnews.com/news/skipping-meals-may-increase-belly-fat-study-finds/
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.The mice that fasted and then gorged didn't just regain weight, however. They also developed insulin resistance in their livers. The researchers explained that when the liver doesn't respond to insulin signals telling it to stop producing glucose, that extra sugar in the blood ends up stored as adipose tissue, more commonly known as fat, in the body.
"Even though they were consuming the same amount of energy [calories], they were storing it differently -- storing it as adipose tissue," Belury said. The adipose tissue -- fat -- accumulated around the organs in the mice's midsections.
The mice were kept awake for extended periods of time, moved from free feeding to long periods between eating, they were fed in the middle of the night and they were changed from mice food to a sugar water. If someone took away my food, kept me awake for long periods of time and only fed me sugar water in the middle of the night I'd gorge when I got the chance.0 -
galgenstrick wrote: »The study is on mice, not humans, and they didn't control calories, and the mice gorged.
That's basically exactly how I got fat. I was a student, worked my *kitten* off all day without eating, then ate a huge dinner before bed with no regard for what I ate.
I now practice IF when cutting and lose at a very good rate, but I know what I'm putting in my body in terms of energy.
The article does state that both groups ate the same amount of calories, so no group was really "gorging" in relation to the other. I'm not saying this is what everyone has to do now, but it is interesting that given both groups were eating the same amount of calories, only the once a day group had the extra fat in the middle.0 -
cbsnews.com/news/skipping-meals-may-increase-belly-fat-study-finds/
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.The mice that fasted and then gorged didn't just regain weight, however. They also developed insulin resistance in their livers. The researchers explained that when the liver doesn't respond to insulin signals telling it to stop producing glucose, that extra sugar in the blood ends up stored as adipose tissue, more commonly known as fat, in the body.
"Even though they were consuming the same amount of energy [calories], they were storing it differently -- storing it as adipose tissue," Belury said. The adipose tissue -- fat -- accumulated around the organs in the mice's midsections.
Were the mice this study was done on doing any sort of strength training? I'll need to know the answer to this before I make a ruling.
Maybe they bench pressed.
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Nice study. Oh wait, they never actually linked it.
Here's the abstract the CBS News article references: http://www.jnutbio.com/article/S0955-2863(15)00055-8/abstract
Looks like you have to buy/sign up to gain full access to it.0 -
If they're storing fat, they're in a surplus. What does that have to do with losing weight?0
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actually, they only link you to the abstract, not the full study.
They should at least give readers full access to the study, so that the methods can be reviewed.
I agree with other posters that this has nothing to do with an IF protocol. I did IF for about six months and lost weight, so I guess I am a special snowflake as well.0 -
TimothyFish wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »The study is on mice, not humans, and they didn't control calories, and the mice gorged.
That's basically exactly how I got fat. I was a student, worked my *kitten* off all day without eating, then ate a huge dinner before bed with no regard for what I ate.
I now practice IF when cutting and lose at a very good rate, but I know what I'm putting in my body in terms of energy.
I think the point was where the rodents gained fat, not that they did gain fat.
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galgenstrick wrote: »The study is on mice, not humans, and they didn't control calories, and the mice gorged.
That's basically exactly how I got fat. I was a student, worked my *kitten* off all day without eating, then ate a huge dinner before bed with no regard for what I ate.
I now practice IF when cutting and lose at a very good rate, but I know what I'm putting in my body in terms of energy.
The article does state that both groups ate the same amount of calories, so no group was really "gorging" in relation to the other. I'm not saying this is what everyone has to do now, but it is interesting that given both groups were eating the same amount of calories, only the once a day group had the extra fat in the middle.
mice do not equal humans.0 -
cbsnews.com/news/skipping-meals-may-increase-belly-fat-study-finds/
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.The mice that fasted and then gorged didn't just regain weight, however. They also developed insulin resistance in their livers. The researchers explained that when the liver doesn't respond to insulin signals telling it to stop producing glucose, that extra sugar in the blood ends up stored as adipose tissue, more commonly known as fat, in the body.
"Even though they were consuming the same amount of energy [calories], they were storing it differently -- storing it as adipose tissue," Belury said. The adipose tissue -- fat -- accumulated around the organs in the mice's midsections.
The mice were kept awake for extended periods of time, moved from free feeding to long periods between eating, they were fed in the middle of the night and they were changed from mice food to a sugar water. If someone took away my food, kept me awake for long periods of time and only fed me sugar water in the middle of the night I'd gorge when I got the chance.
I was only able to see the abstract. So the regular non fasting group had a more regular schedule or were both kept awake?
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DeguelloTex wrote: »If they're storing fat, they're in a surplus. What does that have to do with losing weight?
because apparently mice store fat in a calorie deficit, and if humans skip meals they will also store fat in a calorie deficit...
not that I believe that but that is my take away from this...0 -
No skipping meals for me . Simple reason-- I get light headed, shaky, clammy, tachycardic, anxious, massive headache. Impending doom-- very unpleasant.0
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cbsnews.com/news/skipping-meals-may-increase-belly-fat-study-finds/
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.The mice that fasted and then gorged didn't just regain weight, however. They also developed insulin resistance in their livers. The researchers explained that when the liver doesn't respond to insulin signals telling it to stop producing glucose, that extra sugar in the blood ends up stored as adipose tissue, more commonly known as fat, in the body.
"Even though they were consuming the same amount of energy [calories], they were storing it differently -- storing it as adipose tissue," Belury said. The adipose tissue -- fat -- accumulated around the organs in the mice's midsections.
The mice were kept awake for extended periods of time, moved from free feeding to long periods between eating, they were fed in the middle of the night and they were changed from mice food to a sugar water. If someone took away my food, kept me awake for long periods of time and only fed me sugar water in the middle of the night I'd gorge when I got the chance.
I was only able to see the abstract. So the regular non fasting group had a more regular schedule or were both kept awake?
The regular non fasting group was allowed a normal sleep schedule, regular feedings and ate normal food the entire time. The fasting group had a disrupted sleep schedule, were fed in the middle of the night, were only fed sugar water initially then switched to sugar water and normal food later.0 -
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"Future studies should determine whether changes in adipose tissue gene expressions, lipid stores, and whole-body metabolism in our study can be attributed to the initial food restriction, circadian disturbances, and/or gorging eating pattern" (Kliewer. 2015).0
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Here are graphs from their study.
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cbsnews.com/news/skipping-meals-may-increase-belly-fat-study-finds/
I had initially been interesting in IF, and did a very very modified version where I only had coffee with cream and sugar for breakfast (probably not IF at all, I know). Just because I am usually not hungry in the morning and I wanted to save my calories for later when I'm really hungry. But this article is definitely giving me food for thought.The mice that fasted and then gorged didn't just regain weight, however. They also developed insulin resistance in their livers. The researchers explained that when the liver doesn't respond to insulin signals telling it to stop producing glucose, that extra sugar in the blood ends up stored as adipose tissue, more commonly known as fat, in the body.
"Even though they were consuming the same amount of energy [calories], they were storing it differently -- storing it as adipose tissue," Belury said. The adipose tissue -- fat -- accumulated around the organs in the mice's midsections.
The mice were kept awake for extended periods of time, moved from free feeding to long periods between eating, they were fed in the middle of the night and they were changed from mice food to a sugar water. If someone took away my food, kept me awake for long periods of time and only fed me sugar water in the middle of the night I'd gorge when I got the chance.
I was only able to see the abstract. So the regular non fasting group had a more regular schedule or were both kept awake?
The regular non fasting group was allowed a normal sleep schedule, regular feedings and ate normal food the entire time. The fasting group had a disrupted sleep schedule, were fed in the middle of the night, were only fed sugar water initially then switched to sugar water and normal food later.
Ah ok, that definitely helps to understand the study better. I'm flabbergasted as to why they would change all those other factors. How can they even say the insulin resistance and extra fat is not due to them eating mostly sugar water???? There's too much variation between the two groups to say anything at all.
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