How many grams of carbs

Dannilee2013
Dannilee2013 Posts: 37 Member
edited November 19 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi

After hitting a plateau that lasted for 6 months I have managed to start the weight moving again, in 19 days I have lost 5lb by upping my protein and walking on average 5-6 miles every day. I am currently eating 1740 calorie a day.

My question is how many grams of carbs should I be eating? Today I ate 180grams is that okay?

I need to update my profile but I have 1 stone and 2lb left to lose.

Thanks in advance
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  • professionalHobbyist
    professionalHobbyist Posts: 1,316 Member
    Carbs are a funny thing

    Some people burn less than others

    I run on less carbs and am good with 60-70 a day and more healthy fats.

    But I gain muscle easily and have to work to drop body fat.

    It is very individualized. Try a 10-20 % reduction over a few weeks and see how it goes.

    Good luck!
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    Unless you have a medical reason to watch your carbs, whatever number works for you.
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  • nosebag1212
    nosebag1212 Posts: 621 Member
    edited May 2015
    hit protein and fat minums fill remaining cals with carbs
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    Depends on your way of eating. If you're low carb, it's best to be under 50g. If not, then that's really up to you.
  • Tania212
    Tania212 Posts: 3 Member
    Carbs should make up 30-50% of your Calories if you want your diet to be sustainable in the long run. 1g of carbs = 4 Calories. Find your TDEE (or calorie goal for the day if your trying to lose weight), multiply that by whatever percentage of carbs you choose to eat, and then divide that number by 4.

    EX: my TDEE is 2000 without exercise and I want 40% of my Calorie intake to come from carbs

    (Calories)x(percentage carbs)=Calories from carbs
    (2000) x (.4) = 800

    Calories from carbs/4= grams per day
    800 /4= 200g of carbs per day

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Oh and in case you are curious 1g protien= 4 Calories, and 1g fat = 9 Calories
  • Dannilee2013
    Dannilee2013 Posts: 37 Member
    Thank you very informative :smile:

    I could never do low carb.

    Can I ask how or what calculator you use to find your TDEE? I have tried loads online and they all throw out different numbers, I understand that they can never be 100% accurate but which one is the best?

    Thanks again
    D
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  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    I eat about 180/190 carbs a day also and never have had an issue.
    I also could never do anything low carb, I would go insane. :-)
  • auntstephie321
    auntstephie321 Posts: 3,586 Member
    Tania212 wrote: »
    Carbs should make up 30-50% of your Calories if you want your diet to be sustainable in the long run. 1g of carbs = 4 Calories. Find your TDEE (or calorie goal for the day if your trying to lose weight), multiply that by whatever percentage of carbs you choose to eat, and then divide that number by 4.

    EX: my TDEE is 2000 without exercise and I want 40% of my Calorie intake to come from carbs

    (Calories)x(percentage carbs)=Calories from carbs
    (2000) x (.4) = 800

    Calories from carbs/4= grams per day
    800 /4= 200g of carbs per day

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Oh and in case you are curious 1g protien= 4 Calories, and 1g fat = 9 Calories

    This information is inaccurate.

    There are many people who are successful long term and eat by nature a lower carbohydrate diet, in the 100g range.

    The body also adapts to burning fat instead of carbohydrates when not enough carb is present. While initially some may have difficulty with concentration or bad breath, those quickly pass as your body adjusts to burning fat. These symptoms are more commonly seen when doing a very low carb/keto diet and would be less prevalent in a low carb 50-100g approach.

    People will also gain weight back if they find any other "diet" approach unsustainable. This is not specific to low carb.
  • ACyclingAdmin
    ACyclingAdmin Posts: 444 Member
    I have had training days where I consume 400-500gm carbs to break even on energy burn, it alp depends on how active you are and what intensity level you can push for how long. Then what you do outside of that affects your recovery and ability to be ready the next days workout. Taking in less calories regardless of where it comes from is what matters. A dietician went on a diet of mostly Twinkies and lost eight because he consumed almost 1k calories a day less than his TDEE. You can look that up on CNN.com
  • Dannilee2013
    Dannilee2013 Posts: 37 Member
    edited May 2015
    Great information, can I ask how you calculate your TDEE? I mean I have tried many online calculators but the numbers they throw out are all different and some by several hundred. I know they are only an estimate but which would you say is the most accurate?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Tania212 wrote: »
    Carbs should make up 30-50% of your Calories if you want your diet to be sustainable in the long run.

    No, the amount of carbs people should eat is really a matter of personal preference, how they feel best, and goals. I happen to like the 30-50% range, but others like higher and lower levels and both can be fine.
    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    How many carbs you eat doesn't teach you new healthy habits, but so what? Someone who eats low carb could also focus on new healthy habits just like someone who eats carbs at, say, 40% could (or could not).

    Also, no one has yet figured out the magic diet that prevents people from regaining, since people regain when they stop paying attention to their eating/fall back into old bad habits/lose motivation.

    Keto and other lower carb diets seem to be sustainable for some people.
  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.
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  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.

    Both you and that poster have flaws in both of your posts. Sorry but both of you should read all angles of the topic and realize that it's somewhere in the middle.

    What are the flaws in my post? I'm curious to know since apparently you know everything.
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  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.

    Both you and that poster have flaws in both of your posts. Sorry but both of you should read all angles of the topic and realize that it's somewhere in the middle.

    What are the flaws in my post? I'm curious to know since apparently you know everything.

    Just because you don't eat carbs does not mean your body needs 0 glucose. Can you shut of gluconeogenesis?
    If you say someone cannot tolerate carbs that means they need 0, because they can't tolerate it. If they couldn't tolerate it at all the how can they tolerate low carb?

    You didn't read my entire post if you think I eat zero carbs. I eat under 20g a day. On average I usually consume around 15. My body doesn't tolerate starchy carbs. And yes, I'm aware that there are complex carbs such as beans, fruit and other veggies, but I feel great limiting carbs to the extent that I do. If it's not broke, why fix it? Once I get to my goal weight then I'll slowly add in some fruit, but right now I don't feel deprived of other foods at all, so I don't have a desire to do so. Anything with sugar at this point is a no go. Over the years I've learned what I can tolerate and what I can't when following a low carb diet.
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  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.

    Both you and that poster have flaws in both of your posts. Sorry but both of you should read all angles of the topic and realize that it's somewhere in the middle.

    What are the flaws in my post? I'm curious to know since apparently you know everything.

    Just because you don't eat carbs does not mean your body needs 0 glucose. Can you shut of gluconeogenesis?
    If you say someone cannot tolerate carbs that means they need 0, because they can't tolerate it. If they couldn't tolerate it at all the how can they tolerate low carb?

    You didn't read my entire post if you think I eat zero carbs. I eat under 20g a day. On average I usually consume around 15. My body doesn't tolerate starchy carbs. And yes, I'm aware that there are complex carbs such as beans, fruit and other veggies, but I feel great limiting carbs to the extent that I do. If it's not broke, why fix it? Once I get to my goal weight then I'll slowly add in some fruit, but right now I don't feel deprived of other foods at all, so I don't have a desire to do so. Anything with sugar at this point is a no go. Over the years I've learned what I can tolerate and what I can't when following a low carb diet.

    Trust me, I read your whole post.

    I never said you ate 0 carbs. The point is the things you said in rebuttal to the other poster were not completely accurate. You said not everyone requires carbs so if we don't then why the need for gluconeogenesis? You said their are people that "simply cannot tolerate carbs", that means they need to eat 0, since they can't tolerate any, correct?

    When I said some people don't tolerate carbs, it was a loose statement. I guess I should had specified, but when I'm referring to carbs it's the starchy carbs, including whole grains. And I am one of those people. The whole debate that it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you're in a caloric deficit doesn't work nor apply to me. I probably should had said, "some people can't tolerate a high or even moderate carb diet". My post was in regards to the fact that a lot of people believe you need to eat higher carb foods for energy, and for me, that couldn't be further from the truth.
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  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited May 2015
    Tania212 wrote: »
    Carbs should make up 30-50% of your Calories if you want your diet to be sustainable in the long run. 1g of carbs = 4 Calories. Find your TDEE (or calorie goal for the day if your trying to lose weight), multiply that by whatever percentage of carbs you choose to eat, and then divide that number by 4.

    EX: my TDEE is 2000 without exercise and I want 40% of my Calorie intake to come from carbs

    (Calories)x(percentage carbs)=Calories from carbs
    (2000) x (.4) = 800

    Calories from carbs/4= grams per day
    800 /4= 200g of carbs per day

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Oh and in case you are curious 1g protien= 4 Calories, and 1g fat = 9 Calories
    Many people gain weight back after counting calories as well. In fact, many people gain weight after using myfitnesspal.

    As for the rest, well you're entitled to your opinion. I know many who consider it quite sustainable. And don't have difficulty concentrating and all the rest of the "stories" about low carb.
  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.

    Both you and that poster have flaws in both of your posts. Sorry but both of you should read all angles of the topic and realize that it's somewhere in the middle.

    What are the flaws in my post? I'm curious to know since apparently you know everything.

    Just because you don't eat carbs does not mean your body needs 0 glucose. Can you shut of gluconeogenesis?
    If you say someone cannot tolerate carbs that means they need 0, because they can't tolerate it. If they couldn't tolerate it at all the how can they tolerate low carb?

    You didn't read my entire post if you think I eat zero carbs. I eat under 20g a day. On average I usually consume around 15. My body doesn't tolerate starchy carbs. And yes, I'm aware that there are complex carbs such as beans, fruit and other veggies, but I feel great limiting carbs to the extent that I do. If it's not broke, why fix it? Once I get to my goal weight then I'll slowly add in some fruit, but right now I don't feel deprived of other foods at all, so I don't have a desire to do so. Anything with sugar at this point is a no go. Over the years I've learned what I can tolerate and what I can't when following a low carb diet.

    Trust me, I read your whole post.

    I never said you ate 0 carbs. The point is the things you said in rebuttal to the other poster were not completely accurate. You said not everyone requires carbs so if we don't then why the need for gluconeogenesis? You said their are people that "simply cannot tolerate carbs", that means they need to eat 0, since they can't tolerate any, correct?

    When I said some people don't tolerate carbs, it was a loose statement. I guess I should had specified, but when I'm referring to carbs it's the starchy carbs, including whole grains. And I am one of those people. The whole debate that it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you're in a caloric deficit doesn't work nor apply to me. I probably should had said, "some people can't tolerate a high or even moderate carb diet". My post was in regards to the fact that a lot of people believe you need to eat higher carb foods for energy, and for me, that couldn't be further from the truth.

    You think when people are giving generalized carb recommendations they are including diabetics in thqt? You have never noticed the disclaimer "unless you have a medical condition"?

    I'm not a diabetic nor do I have any medical conditions.
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  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.

    Both you and that poster have flaws in both of your posts. Sorry but both of you should read all angles of the topic and realize that it's somewhere in the middle.

    What are the flaws in my post? I'm curious to know since apparently you know everything.

    Just because you don't eat carbs does not mean your body needs 0 glucose. Can you shut of gluconeogenesis?
    If you say someone cannot tolerate carbs that means they need 0, because they can't tolerate it. If they couldn't tolerate it at all the how can they tolerate low carb?

    You didn't read my entire post if you think I eat zero carbs. I eat under 20g a day. On average I usually consume around 15. My body doesn't tolerate starchy carbs. And yes, I'm aware that there are complex carbs such as beans, fruit and other veggies, but I feel great limiting carbs to the extent that I do. If it's not broke, why fix it? Once I get to my goal weight then I'll slowly add in some fruit, but right now I don't feel deprived of other foods at all, so I don't have a desire to do so. Anything with sugar at this point is a no go. Over the years I've learned what I can tolerate and what I can't when following a low carb diet.

    Trust me, I read your whole post.

    I never said you ate 0 carbs. The point is the things you said in rebuttal to the other poster were not completely accurate. You said not everyone requires carbs so if we don't then why the need for gluconeogenesis? You said their are people that "simply cannot tolerate carbs", that means they need to eat 0, since they can't tolerate any, correct?

    When I said some people don't tolerate carbs, it was a loose statement. I guess I should had specified, but when I'm referring to carbs it's the starchy carbs, including whole grains. And I am one of those people. The whole debate that it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you're in a caloric deficit doesn't work nor apply to me. I probably should had said, "some people can't tolerate a high or even moderate carb diet". My post was in regards to the fact that a lot of people believe you need to eat higher carb foods for energy, and for me, that couldn't be further from the truth.

    You think when people are giving generalized carb recommendations they are including diabetics in thqt? You have never noticed the disclaimer "unless you have a medical condition"?

    I'm not a diabetic nor do I have any medical conditions.

    Then what is different than between how my body tolerates carbs compared to yours?

    I wish I knew, but I know in the past I've tried just eating healthy while still eating carbs and I either didn't lose any weight or I gained even while keeping my calories within a range I should had been in a deficit. While doing low carb I've gone from 240 lbs and I'm a few pounds away from breaking into the 160's. Insulin resistance doesn't just effect diabetics, but people without any known medical conditions, too. So that's the only thing I can think of in regards to why eating carbs is different for me than others. Low carb works for me because there aren't as many carbs to burn off, so it goes into fat burning mode a lot sooner.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.

    Both you and that poster have flaws in both of your posts. Sorry but both of you should read all angles of the topic and realize that it's somewhere in the middle.

    What are the flaws in my post? I'm curious to know since apparently you know everything.

    Just because you don't eat carbs does not mean your body needs 0 glucose. Can you shut of gluconeogenesis?
    If you say someone cannot tolerate carbs that means they need 0, because they can't tolerate it. If they couldn't tolerate it at all the how can they tolerate low carb?

    You didn't read my entire post if you think I eat zero carbs. I eat under 20g a day. On average I usually consume around 15. My body doesn't tolerate starchy carbs. And yes, I'm aware that there are complex carbs such as beans, fruit and other veggies, but I feel great limiting carbs to the extent that I do. If it's not broke, why fix it? Once I get to my goal weight then I'll slowly add in some fruit, but right now I don't feel deprived of other foods at all, so I don't have a desire to do so. Anything with sugar at this point is a no go. Over the years I've learned what I can tolerate and what I can't when following a low carb diet.

    Trust me, I read your whole post.

    I never said you ate 0 carbs. The point is the things you said in rebuttal to the other poster were not completely accurate. You said not everyone requires carbs so if we don't then why the need for gluconeogenesis? You said their are people that "simply cannot tolerate carbs", that means they need to eat 0, since they can't tolerate any, correct?

    When I said some people don't tolerate carbs, it was a loose statement. I guess I should had specified, but when I'm referring to carbs it's the starchy carbs, including whole grains. And I am one of those people. The whole debate that it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you're in a caloric deficit doesn't work nor apply to me. I probably should had said, "some people can't tolerate a high or even moderate carb diet". My post was in regards to the fact that a lot of people believe you need to eat higher carb foods for energy, and for me, that couldn't be further from the truth.

    You think when people are giving generalized carb recommendations they are including diabetics in thqt? You have never noticed the disclaimer "unless you have a medical condition"?

    I'm not a diabetic nor do I have any medical conditions.

    Then what is different than between how my body tolerates carbs compared to yours?

    I wish I knew, but I know in the past I've tried just eating healthy while still eating carbs and I either didn't lose any weight or I gained even while keeping my calories within a range I should had been in a deficit. While doing low carb I've gone from 240 lbs and I'm a few pounds away from breaking into the 160's. Insulin resistance doesn't just effect diabetics, but people without any known medical conditions, too. So that's the only thing I can think of in regards to why eating carbs is different for me than others. Low carb works for me because there aren't as many carbs to burn off, so it goes into fat burning mode a lot sooner.

    Well done on the weight loss! I don't have a medical condition, but I can tell you that as I age I become more carb sensitive. Congrats on finding what works for you.
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  • lauraesh0384
    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    edited May 2015
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Tania212 wrote: »

    Why you should eat more carbs?
    Your brain requires twice and much energy derived from carbohydrates than the rest of the cells in your body. if your brain (and body) doesn't get enough of that energy. your body starts a process called ketosis, which by all means is great for losing fat, BUT this process will give you bad breath, make concentration EXTREMELY difficult, and will redirect they energy that your brain is using to try and make you eat carbs via cravings.

    This way of eating is not sustainable long term and doesn't teach you any new healthy habits, so many people gain weight back after stopping low carb.

    Not everyone requires carbs for energy. I actually have more energy consuming <20g of carbs a day than I do when I eat higher carbs. The only carbs I eat are those that are in broccoli, green beans, cauliflower and sometimes spaghetti squash. I don't crave carbs or sugar. The idea of any WOE someone picks is that it needs to be sustainable long term. Of course if you stray from that particular WOE you're going to gain weight. Google insulin resistance and you will see that some people simply can not tolerate carbs and do better on a low carb diet. There are many alternatives to the higher carb foods that I once loved, which makes this WOE sustainable for a lot of us.

    Both you and that poster have flaws in both of your posts. Sorry but both of you should read all angles of the topic and realize that it's somewhere in the middle.

    What are the flaws in my post? I'm curious to know since apparently you know everything.

    Just because you don't eat carbs does not mean your body needs 0 glucose. Can you shut of gluconeogenesis?
    If you say someone cannot tolerate carbs that means they need 0, because they can't tolerate it. If they couldn't tolerate it at all the how can they tolerate low carb?

    You didn't read my entire post if you think I eat zero carbs. I eat under 20g a day. On average I usually consume around 15. My body doesn't tolerate starchy carbs. And yes, I'm aware that there are complex carbs such as beans, fruit and other veggies, but I feel great limiting carbs to the extent that I do. If it's not broke, why fix it? Once I get to my goal weight then I'll slowly add in some fruit, but right now I don't feel deprived of other foods at all, so I don't have a desire to do so. Anything with sugar at this point is a no go. Over the years I've learned what I can tolerate and what I can't when following a low carb diet.

    Trust me, I read your whole post.

    I never said you ate 0 carbs. The point is the things you said in rebuttal to the other poster were not completely accurate. You said not everyone requires carbs so if we don't then why the need for gluconeogenesis? You said their are people that "simply cannot tolerate carbs", that means they need to eat 0, since they can't tolerate any, correct?

    When I said some people don't tolerate carbs, it was a loose statement. I guess I should had specified, but when I'm referring to carbs it's the starchy carbs, including whole grains. And I am one of those people. The whole debate that it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you're in a caloric deficit doesn't work nor apply to me. I probably should had said, "some people can't tolerate a high or even moderate carb diet". My post was in regards to the fact that a lot of people believe you need to eat higher carb foods for energy, and for me, that couldn't be further from the truth.

    You think when people are giving generalized carb recommendations they are including diabetics in thqt? You have never noticed the disclaimer "unless you have a medical condition"?

    I'm not a diabetic nor do I have any medical conditions.

    Then what is different than between how my body tolerates carbs compared to yours?

    I wish I knew, but I know in the past I've tried just eating healthy while still eating carbs and I either didn't lose any weight or I gained even while keeping my calories within a range I should had been in a deficit. While doing low carb I've gone from 240 lbs and I'm a few pounds away from breaking into the 160's. Insulin resistance doesn't just effect diabetics, but people without any known medical conditions, too. So that's the only thing I can think of in regards to why eating carbs is different for me than others. Low carb works for me because there aren't as many carbs to burn off, so it goes into fat burning mode a lot sooner.

    Can you explain to me a little more on that?

    I'm not too good at explaining things, but I'll do my best. In a normal person when they eat carbs it triggers a response to the pancreas to release insulin into the muscle cells to be used for energy. In an insulin resistant individual when they consume a food that is high in carbs it also triggers the pancreas to release insulin to the muscle cells to be used for energy, except there is too much insulin in the blood so it sends insulin to the fat cells instead and locks that up so it can't be used for energy. When someone that was previously insulin resistant eats a diet that is low in carbs, they're not going to see that's the high spike in glucose because it produces insulin at a steady rate. And in turn, it won't lock up the insulin in their fat cells. Instead it will release it to the muscle cells so it can be used for energy. Also with people that are insulin resistant, if they consume a meal that is higher in carbs, it takes most of it and locks it away in the fat cells leading said person to have that hungry feeling and in turn, they eat more, causing the insulin level to rise again. It's said that insulin resistance more so affects those that have a tendency to store fat in their abdominal area.

    Like I said, I'm not very good at explaining things, even though I have a medical background. I wasn't even made aware on insulin resistance until recently. I've always said I had a carb sensitivity, but insulin resistance makes sense on why people like me can lose weight on low carb, but not other diets.
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    lauraesh0384 Posts: 463 Member
    That's fine. Feel free to Google it and read up on it. There are some pretty good videos on YouTube that can explain it a little better than I can. I was going to post some links instead, but I wasn't sure how reputable you were looking for. Physiology is not my specialty haha. You can also type in metabolic syndrome in your search. It's used interchangeably with insulin resistance.
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