Looking for former vegetarians
sunn_lighter
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I have been a vegetarian for 20+ years and while for a long time I thought it worked well for me and my body, I am coming around to the idea that being a vegetarian is negatively impacting my health. Im not saying that's true for all vegetarians/vegans, but I'm a bit of an outlier when it comes to health issues. In particular think the lack of protein, B-12, bad reactions to soy, and the tendency for vegetarian diets to be high-carbohydrate are all hurting my body. At the very least, considering the medical cr*p I'm dealing with, I owe it to myself to give eating meat a try just to see if it makes a difference.
After being vegetarian for so long, I have a pretty severe aversion to meat. I think I will try making meat based broths and work up from there. If there are any former vegetarians out there, I'd like to know how you transitioned into eating meat again and what (if any) changes you experienced in your body/life.
After being vegetarian for so long, I have a pretty severe aversion to meat. I think I will try making meat based broths and work up from there. If there are any former vegetarians out there, I'd like to know how you transitioned into eating meat again and what (if any) changes you experienced in your body/life.
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I was a veggie for 17 years. I switched because my son made me anemic for whatever reason!
I actually started out buying direct from small farms. I could see the animals and talk to the farmers. When I told them about my situation they gave me a little tour to meet the meat.
It was a bit weird but it helped me know that what I was eating had a good existence till the end. I've branched out since then (I can't afford them for all my stuff) but that helped me start.
And remember, if it doesn't work for you, you can always go back.
Also, avoid bacon. It's just a salty mess, bleh!0 -
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I was a pescatarian for about 20 years. I've been eating meat for about 5 years. I still don't eat beef and have only recently started to eat some pork. I mostly consume chicken and turkey.
I just can't handle the carbs of a typical veggie diet, and I can't get enough calories and protein without meat.0 -
I've been a veggie for 25 years before becoming a pescetarian (I a eat fish). This gives me plenty of extra grams of protein in my diet as well as being super tasty. Is that an option for you OP?0
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I was a vegetarian since my teens, with some macrobiotic and vegan thrown in. I never wanted to believe that my problems could be due to being vegetarian. Mostly I didn't feel "ill", even though the lbs kept pilling. I think I had forgotten what it means to feel good. I just didn't want to eat meat, I was not someone that would eat meat.
All changed when I was diagnosed diabetic. Due to family history I knew diabetes is a very serious disease that can end badly. I went online to search for info and alternatives to medication and found LCHF and then MFP. I tried vegetarian LCHF but I don't especially like cheese and there's a limit to the number of avocados one can eat. So I started eating meat within a balanced LCHF diet and the results have been so amazing that I will keep to it likely for the rest of my life. Effortless weight loss, more energy, never hungry and, best of all, glucose numbers on the high side of normal without medication (and getting lower). All my health markers have improved, even the critical HDL and B12 that were dangerously low.
I still don't exactly "like" meat (and for the life of me can't understand the appeal of bacon) but I eat it because I can see and feel the good it's doing to my body. The way I see it, it's better to eat meat, be healthy and have diabetes controlled without medication than to be a sick vegetarian, forever dependent on growing medication.
Best of luck with your transition!
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I was vegetarian for 15 years or so but slackened off when organic/free range became easier to get hold of. I did find though issues in being able to digest meat at first, like I had lost the enzymes to deal with it...?! I had a lot of stomach pain/discomfort eating meat but eventually went away.
I prefer not to eat too much meat & cheese is currently giving me same issues, so almost thinking a pescatarian veg option may suit me better.
Ketogirl - sounds like you've done well with your choices0 -
Former and current vegetarian here. I stopped eating meat at 12 and didn't again until my 20's when I got pregnant. Then one day I looked at a cheeseburger, thought "My God, that looks divine" and sat down and demolished it. My youngest is 6 tomorrow and I'm having continued stomach problems that only go away when I remove meat from my diet. Been meat-free again for about a month and already my stomach is feeling better and I'm not gacking up blood between meals and rolling around the bed in pain. Yay!
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Former veg, dove straight back into meat with no problem, stopped eating it again.0 -
I stopped eating meat for years but continued with eggs, fish and dairy proteins. Now I add a portion or 2 of beef every week plus lamb about 3 times a month. Other days alternate between fish and chicken with more fish as I often have tinned fish for lunch. I was worried that I was not eating enough meat to supply protein. MFP shows me that with all the vegetables added in I am well within recommended protein every day, with most days being over minimum thanks to eating back activity calories.0
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I was a strict vegetarian for 5 years, and this year have begun to be a little more flexible in my diet. I was vego for ethical reasons relating to the environment and sustainability. I was never one to judge others who chose to eat meat and always felt that it was ok to kill an animal for food- it was more the factory farms I was against. I'm a bit of a foodie who loves trying new things, so my new philosophy on eating allows for trying something when I eat out even if it contains meat, and eating food that my friends and family cook for me without demanding that they make me something vegetarian. I still eat mostly vegetarian at home, though while trying to lose weight I have made a further allowance for tuna and salmon so that I can have more protein options without the carbs. I think that many people see vegetarianism as an 'all or nothing' thing or a restriction, but I feel that it is jut as valid to have a preference for vegetarian eating based on ethical reasoning without it being a hard rule.0
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I was vegetarian for a long time, and now just eat fish (truthfully I just don't like any other meat). I do also eat dairy and the occasional egg. But fish/seafood might be something to try for you? Protein, good fats, tends to be leaner (assuming you cook it right LOL). I don't feel too different (I didn't go back to meat for health reasons but really just because I really craved fish) but did notice my cholesterol levels improved significantly once I added fish. Edit: I see you say fish gives you a headache. Can you try freshwater fish? Might be easier on you. Good luck.0
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I have a reverse aversion. I was involuntarily mostly vegetarian for three years from 2001-2004 while I lived in yoga communities and to this day I cannot stand soy. It took me 11 years before I could eat oatmeal again. I have to cook the hell out of it. Maybe that would help you too - try using meat in very small pieces in soup that has been cooked a long time. I like your idea of starting with meat broth.
Also try it in very small pieces in stir fries.
An interesting thing about my Thai cookbook - 8 oz of beef is supposed to serve 4 in the Pad Sei Ew (Street Noodles) recipe and 1/2 C of pork in the pork fried rice (2 cups cooked rice, 1.5 C veggies) is also supposed to serve 4. This low proportion of meat is consistent throughout the cookbook. So maybe think Thai portions of meat rather than American.0 -
I have a great deal of respect for vegetarians and especially vegans but unfortunately I just didn't feel good eating this way. These days, I strive to be a humane-i-tarian - http://www.humaneitarian.org0
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azulvioleta6 wrote: »I was a pescatarian for about 20 years. I've been eating meat for about 5 years. I still don't eat beef and have only recently started to eat some pork. I mostly consume chicken and turkey.
I just can't handle the carbs of a typical veggie diet, and I can't get enough calories and protein without meat.
Similar to me, except I was pescetarian for 12 years (on the rare occasion I ate chicken) and have been eating meat for 16 years. Seafood is still my favourite meat, but I eat the occasional spaghetti bolognese or cheeseburger. And bacon.
I started eating meat because I was sick of feeling tired all the time, and sick of being so picky about my food.
OP, have you tried eating chicken? Being white meat, it's a bit like fish or tofu.
The first meat I ate other than chicken was a pork chop.
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I was a vegetarian for 7 years "back in the day" and played vegan at summer rainbow gatherings.
When I went back to eating meat, red meat just upset my tummy soooo bad. So I started with fish, then chicken, worked in some pork, now I love a steak!
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I was a vegetarian, nearly a decade ago, for almost three years. That may or may not be a meaningful amount of time. I pretty much jumped right back into meat eating. I think I had a pound or more of meat the first day I decided to eat meat again. And two servings were gas station hot dogs. LOL
I didn't have any more gastric distress than I had already been suffering from the vegetarian diet. Actually, I felt really good. The hardest part was explaining it to the people around me. I knew what I was doing was right for me and made me feel good. I didn't really lose any of the weight I put on. I went back from vegetarianism to pretty much the standard garbage that everyone else was eating. I didn't know better, I just knew that it was better than what I had been doing.
Now, I've swung pretty far to the other extreme. I guess my only advice would be to listen to your body when you eat.0 -
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I was veggie for about 8 years, although I still occasionally ate meat at family gatherings where I didn't have much of a choice. I started eating meat again because I got really sick and the only thing I could imagine eating, for like several weeks, was chicken soup. So I started by making a really good homemade chicken soup (bone broth and all) and then eased back into eating other meats as well.
Part of me still really wishes I could be veggie again. I hate thinking about eating meat, I don't like messing with it while cooking, and I usually enjoy veggies and grains more anyway. But when I was veggie, I was anemic, obese, and had really high cholesterol. Now I'm not anemic, I'm overweight (but not obese, and getting closer to the normal range every week) and have close to normal cholesterol. I'm sure some of this could have been solved through changes to my eating/exercise patterns even as a vegetarian, but now I have Crohn's disease and can't eat beans, legumes, some grains, or any soy products. When I'm flaring I'm also really limited in what types of fruits, nuts, and veggies I can eat, and how they need to be prepared. So, being a vegetarian just really isn't sustainable or healthy for me anymore.
It sounds like you are transitioning well, so I would just stay stick with things that are really appealing to you at first, and buy meat that you feel better about consuming (for me, that's wild-caught seafood, and as much certified humane/pastured/grass-fed/organic meat and poultry as my budget will allow). And when you are a little turned off by eating meat, just try to focus on all the reasons you decided to start eating it again and the nutritional benefits it will give you. It will get easier in time! Best of luck!0 -
Numberwang22 wrote: »I was vegetarian for 15 years or so but slackened off when organic/free range became easier to get hold of. I did find though issues in being able to digest meat at first, like I had lost the enzymes to deal with it...?! I had a lot of stomach pain/discomfort eating meat but eventually went away.
I prefer not to eat too much meat & cheese is currently giving me same issues, so almost thinking a pescatarian veg option may suit me better.
Same here. Was vegetarian for 8 years and just recently started eating meat again, however I make it a point to only eat free range/grassfed/wild game. I still avoid cheese and most dairy, and am selective about the type of fish I'll eat, too. I'm not even sure how good the processed Morningstar, Boca, etc. products are for my body, anyway.
I still eat mainly vegetarian but have incorporated meat into my meals about twice a week. It's definitely helped me ease off the carbs, which was a big part of my diet.
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It's been very useful to read all the posts on this thread, and I would be very interested in hearing an update about your experience. I was raised a pescetarian (and thus have been one for about 29 years), and I get sick when I accidentally eat meat. However, I travel a lot and am a foodie, and would really appreciate being able to eat regional cuisines when I'm abroad.0
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i don't like meat very much either, if i do eat any meat it's low sodium turkey bacon as a snack, i've started to like gorton's salmon (they're frozen into little 1 portion servings for you) because it's easy and not gross to deal with, sometimes i'll eat chicken and turkey if i go out, but mostly i eat veggie substitutes still.
i really hate touching meat, it grosses me out. for me, even though it costs more, if i want some kind of meat i will either get something set up to cook from whole foods (like how they have the little piece of chicken or fish already cut and seasoned and all pretty so i don't have to get rid of all the gross parts) or get frozen options like the gorton's fish, they have flash frozen chicken breasts that are "safe" options too as far as the gross factor, you can just get them and put the meat in a baggie with some soy sauce or seasonall or something in the morning in the fridge and cook it when you get home. but i'm much pickier with chicken!
you can try just adding it in every couple weeks and make it a part of a nice meal like with getting one of those all-ready-to-cook options from whole foods and maybe learn how to cook them for yourself or just stick like me and keep on like that depending on whether or not you mind dealing with meat.0 -
Great thread
I was vegetarian for about 7 or 8 years, and didn't really eat meat often before that. When I started logging my food here I was shocked at how little protein I was getting, even on days when I was trying really hard to eat lots of protein.
A few weeks ago I started by ordering some bacon at breakfast, had a bit of chicken for dinner a few nights later. Ate the BBQ spare ribs I've been craving off and on for the last few years but kept avoiding. It is a bit overwhelming now going to a restaurant for dinner and being able to order anything on the menu after being so used to having one or two crappy veggie options to choose from.
I was expecting horrible stomach pains because of enzymes or whatever, but I've been fine so far. Just a pleasant full feeling after eating meat that I've been missing for awhile.
I still haven't managed to cook meat, even before I went vegetarian the most I would have done is warm up some fish sticks. I think that will take a bit to work up too, for now I'm mostly just eating meat at restaurants and munching on entirely too many pepperoni sticks and beef jerky.0 -
I'm not vegetarian, but enjoyed your posts. I have a teenager daughter that is vegetarian and has been for 2 years now and during those two years, her health has gone to crap (rapid weight gain, lethargic, moody, pre-diabetic, deficient in certain vitamins, etc) and I don't know how to help her though I know eating meat will get her back on track, but I can't push her back.0
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About the "yuck" factor... I was very fortunate that even though the decision to try to control my diabetes with LCHF and to eat meat was mine, my husband cooked all the meals we had at home. Not only that but he went to great lengths to disguise the meats and make it more palatable to me. If it was not like that I'm not sure I would have survived the first months.
It was only recently that I cooked my first steak and, surprisingly, I was ready to do it. I feel like I've finally grown up past my teens. All the benefits I've been experiencing made it clear that my body needs meat and I've accepted that I need the death of animals so that I can be healthy (I've also lost the peace and love vision of vegetarianism as harmless to other beings, but that's another issue). I feel grateful for the lives I'm taking, I doubt I'll ever lose that. But I had to choose and I've chosen to give my body what it needs.0 -
I was a vegetarian for about 18 years, starting in my early teens. I suffered from depression in college and as a young adult, plus it was normal for me to have some pretty painful indigestion after meals. I decided to try adding meat because I just wasn't gaining any strength at the gym. No matter what I did, I couldn't lift more weight. Unfortunately, I was totally grossed out by the thought of meat.
I started by eating white fish, because it was tasteless enough that it reminded me of tofu. Similarly, crab meat was workable for me because it didn't remind me of the animal it came from. It took a couple of months to work up to salmon, since the pinkness of the flesh wasn't appealing. Once I got to salmon, it was a little easier to try ground meats (again, because they didn't remind me of an animal). I would say it was about a year from when I started eating meat to the time when I could start cooking raw meat, and it also took a while to be able to eat anything like chicken that had bones in it. Throughout that whole time, the only thing holding me back was psychological; I never had any negative physical reaction to any meat (barring one unfortunately sushi food poisoning incident).
Once I eliminated soy and fake meat and stopped eating non-fermented dairy, my stomach problems went away. Skin rashes that I thought were permanent disappeared. I was able to stop my anti-depressant medication after nearly a decade. I don't know for sure that eating meat and eliminating soy and most dairy and bread was the cause, but I am grateful for feeling more healthy most of the time.0 -
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I was a vegetarian for 18 years, and for the past two, have been eating fish and seafood. For some reason, I found that easier for me. Maybe because they aren't cute furry animals? I don't know! It was difficult at first. I'd have to have everything cooked well done. I'm still kind of like that, I still get a little grossed out.0
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I was vegetarian for three years and recently stopped due to my worsening ibs. After doing the low fodmap diet I found my biggest sensitivities were wheat and beans which are a large part of a veggie diet. I switch back to meat and I eat bacon and chicken most. It still grosses me out I eat a chunk of fat though so that I don't like but my ibs has improved0
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I'm easily grossed out by raw meat so one thing I do to make the cooking easier on me is bake it. So for example if I'm making chicken stir fry, I'll just throw the chicken breast in the oven for like 30 or 40 minutes at 400 degrees F until it's cooked, THEN cut it up, then cook up my stir fry. You can also buy pre cut meats so you don't have to deal with it yourself. The cooking it in the oven thing is just good for me because it's out of sight, out of mind.0
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