Help! Too much muscle

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  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    Okay I have a few more questions then:
    1- How long should I wait till I start seeing loss again?
    2- I run about 3-4 miles on the off days as cross training- does that help/
    3- Is it just fact that I lose muscle if I'm eating at a deficit? There's no way for the body to say "okay, fat time"?

    1. It depends. Personally, I went up 4lbs or so and stayed there for a whole month before I started seeing scale losses. I didn't even see much in the measuring tape. But the pictures, I could see losses in places you don't measure, my face, the area between my hips and waist, etc.
    2. Any type of exercise will affect glycogen stores. If you increase training, you will increase glycogen store.
    Does it help you - it does increase the calories you burn, so it can help to create a deficit but that also goes hand in hand with keeping track of what is coming in.
    3. Yes, losing weight inevitably will mean losing some muscle. How much depends on a number of factors including genetics, your diet, your exercise, etc. If you are eating a decent amount of protein, weight training, and don't have a huge calorie deficit, you are doing the best you can to minimize it.
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    Okay I have a few more questions then:
    1- How long should I wait till I start seeing loss again?
    2- I run about 3-4 miles on the off days as cross training- does that help/
    3- Is it just fact that I lose muscle if I'm eating at a deficit? There's no way for the body to say "okay, fat time"?

    1. If it's been a month, you should start seeing a loss about now. How is your logging? Do you weigh your solids and measure your liquids?
    2. Cardio gives you a great calorie burn and increases your deficit. A deficit is how you lose the weight so yes, if you like it, keep doing it. But it's not required by any means.
    3. All weight loss is a combination of fat, muscle, and water. To make sure a greater portion of that is fat, lift weights and eat enough protein.
  • FitnessasmyWitness
    FitnessasmyWitness Posts: 67 Member
    arditarose wrote: »

    Oh my gosh!! This gives me SO much hope. I always get self concious because I weigh more than some "flabbier" girls and actually, more than some boys my age.... but it gives me a great perspective that it truly is a good weight.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    arditarose wrote: »

    Oh my gosh!! This gives me SO much hope. I always get self concious because I weigh more than some "flabbier" girls and actually, more than some boys my age.... but it gives me a great perspective that it truly is a good weight.

    Yep, I have to remind myself that my scale weight doesn't matter all that much at this point. It can be hard, but progress pics are a great thing.
  • FitnessasmyWitness
    FitnessasmyWitness Posts: 67 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Okay I have a few more questions then:
    1- How long should I wait till I start seeing loss again?
    2- I run about 3-4 miles on the off days as cross training- does that help/
    3- Is it just fact that I lose muscle if I'm eating at a deficit? There's no way for the body to say "okay, fat time"?

    1. If it's been a month, you should start seeing a loss about now. How is your logging? Do you weigh your solids and measure your liquids?
    2. Cardio gives you a great calorie burn and increases your deficit. A deficit is how you lose the weight so yes, if you like it, keep doing it. But it's not required by any means.
    3. All weight loss is a combination of fat, muscle, and water. To make sure a greater portion of that is fat, lift weights and eat enough protein.

    I don't weigh solids because I'm in the midst of an intercontinental move and my scale is on the way elsewhere... btu I try to overestimate the foods and I log every single thing I eat so I should at least be close...
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    A woman who trains and is dedicated to *actually* building muscle can expect maybe a pound per month. 5 pounds in a month? Not possible.

    This. No way no how 5 pounds even with roids.
  • TrainingWithTonya
    TrainingWithTonya Posts: 1,741 Member
    When you start resistance training, your body has to store glycogen to be able to fuel the workouts. 1 gram of glycogen is stored in 3 grams of water in the muscle. You have gained glycogen and water, not muscle. Keep going and the body will stabilize how much glycogen you store and the fat loss will catch up with the glycogen and water gain, and eventually you will start losing. I tell my clients all the time that we don't weigh for at least 6-8 weeks because I know they are going to go up on the scale before they go down on the scale. The scale doesn't matter when you are losing body fat and storing the right fuel for the workouts, anyway. Trust me, I've been doing this for a living for 19 years. When you are doing it right, you will gain on the scale first. Embrace it and look forward to that fat loss. ;-)
  • FitnessasmyWitness
    FitnessasmyWitness Posts: 67 Member
    When you start resistance training, your body has to store glycogen to be able to fuel the workouts. 1 gram of glycogen is stored in 3 grams of water in the muscle. You have gained glycogen and water, not muscle. Keep going and the body will stabilize how much glycogen you store and the fat loss will catch up with the glycogen and water gain, and eventually you will start losing. I tell my clients all the time that we don't weigh for at least 6-8 weeks because I know they are going to go up on the scale before they go down on the scale. The scale doesn't matter when you are losing body fat and storing the right fuel for the workouts, anyway. Trust me, I've been doing this for a living for 19 years. When you are doing it right, you will gain on the scale first. Embrace it and look forward to that fat loss. ;-)

    Phew, that's makes me feel GREAT! "doing it right, you'll gain first". That's a hugh weight off my shoulders... ha.
    So another quick question- I'll be away from facilities for about a month. Will hard core body weight exercise help maintain it? Or will I be bound to lose some progress.
  • TrainingWithTonya
    TrainingWithTonya Posts: 1,741 Member
    Phew, that's makes me feel GREAT! "doing it right, you'll gain first". That's a hugh weight off my shoulders... ha.
    So another quick question- I'll be away from facilities for about a month. Will hard core body weight exercise help maintain it? Or will I be bound to lose some progress.

    Depends on how hard core. Generally, body weight exercises are more cardiovascular than strength building because you do a lot of repetitions and not as much weight as when you do more traditional weight training. So you will keep up the fat burning, but may not keep the glycogen stores needed for the resistance work you've been doing. Which means that you will probably lose on the scale during that month dramatically but then put some weight back on in glycogen and water when you start weight training again. That glycogen and water storage is necessary though before you can ever hope to actually gain muscle fibers or muscle fiber density.
  • FitnessasmyWitness
    FitnessasmyWitness Posts: 67 Member
    Okay. To be honest I don't really mind not gaining any more muscle seeing as I already have a pretty large amount. My goal is mainly to lose the fat and gain the definition, so it sounds like that month shouldn't do too much damage.
  • FitnessasmyWitness
    FitnessasmyWitness Posts: 67 Member
    @TrainingWithTonya @arditarose @3dogsrunning @3bambi3
    I was reading some articles and one said this:
    "If you experience a significant weight gain (exceeding 5 pounds) that does not begin to decrease rapidly after the second week, guess what it is? I'll give you one hint... you put it in your mouth and chew it. You know it! Your food (or calorie-laden beverages). News flash, friends… exercise doesn't make you gain weight. Consuming more food than you burn makes you gain weight!

    So if after two weeks you are not losing weight and have gained weight that's not coming off, it's time to take a close and honest look at your food intake."

    Is this just wrong in my case? Or am I actually somehow consuming that many extra calories...?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited June 2015
    I have a fantastic heart rate monitor that tells me almost exactly how many calories I burn each day...

    There is no such thing.

    Here's the deal. I've gained 4 or 5 pounds of muscle in the past month.

    Oh dear....

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