Would I be wasting my time using less weights?

iceycoldhot
iceycoldhot Posts: 72 Member
edited November 19 in Fitness and Exercise
I use a barbell for my lower body. I do deadlifts, squats and lunges. Pretty high weights maybe 70-90 pounds depending upon the exercise. So if I were to change it up and do kettlebell squats or something using less weights, would I be making less progress? It's just there is only so much you can do with a barbell and I know you can do a lot more moves with kettlebells and dumbbells but if I am using less weights wouldn't I be building less muscle?

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  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    Why not both? Do heavy BB work for your main lifts and then use DBs and KBs for accessory work? Best of both worlds.
  • Spike_G
    Spike_G Posts: 149 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Why not both? Do heavy BB work for your main lifts and then use DBs and KBs for accessory work? Best of both worlds.

    This.

    Also don't forget with KBs and DBs you can target different muscle groups.
    KB workouts can be quite cardio intensive as well compared to other weight exercises.
  • iceycoldhot
    iceycoldhot Posts: 72 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Why not both? Do heavy BB work for your main lifts and then use DBs and KBs for accessory work? Best of both worlds.

    Because I really just wanted to know if it would even be effective to do lower body work if I am using lighter weights than I normally do. If DBs and KBS target different muscle groups like the other poster said, I will do it. I just didn't want to waste my time if I wouldn't get the progress I'd get lifting with my normal barbell.
  • Carol_L
    Carol_L Posts: 296 Member
    They make kettlebells in all kinds of weights, even 70 and 90 lbs (or more), so you don't need to lower your weight. If you're going for ballistic type exercises and have never used a KB before, I would suggest you get some training with someone who knows what they are doing as you can injure yourself using too high of a weight too soon, especially if you are using improper technique. Form is important with these little cannon balls with handles.

    KB, BB and DB are tools that can be used for many similar exercises, although there are certain areas where each of these excel. KB are great for conditioning, as well as hip mobility and particular stability exercises - try doing a Turkish Get Up with a BB or even a DB. While you can certainly do push presses with a KB, a DB is a better tool for the job. It shouldn't be an either/or proposition. I've just finished outfitting my home gym - 315 lbs of plates, Olympic Bar (7', 45 lbs), a few KB, Powerblocks, and bands. Each one was considered for what it could do for my goal.

    Try Delavier's Strenght Training Anatomy to get an idea of what groups are engaged by exercise - it's quite enlightening.
  • Lady_jane_
    Lady_jane_ Posts: 37 Member
    It can be effective if you want it to be. Try doing the same lifts, but at a much slower pace. 5 secs down, hold, 5 secs up. You will feel the burn.

    Also, try the same lifts but one legged. I don't think anything is a waste of time, so long as you find ways to make it challenging.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    DopeItUp wrote: »
    Why not both? Do heavy BB work for your main lifts and then use DBs and KBs for accessory work? Best of both worlds.

    Because I really just wanted to know if it would even be effective to do lower body work if I am using lighter weights than I normally do. If DBs and KBS target different muscle groups like the other poster said, I will do it. I just didn't want to waste my time if I wouldn't get the progress I'd get lifting with my normal barbell.

    It all depends. If you're performing the exact same movement, generally using less weight is going to be less effective of course. Having said that, doing a more difficult variant of a movement with less weight can drastically change the difficulty level. I've done pistol squats with a small DB that were harder than squatting 225 with a barbell.

    It really all depends on what your goals are and what your game plan is. You're asking if something is "effective" but the question is "effective for what purpose?". Squatting 500lbs with a barbell is effective for building strength, but not very effective at building cardio. Doing 10 sets of 10 with 75lb bicep curls is effective for building bigger arms, but not very effective for improving your deadlift. See what I'm saying?

    Having said all of that, generally speaking, if you are looking for the most effective size or strength gains with a typical movement (say, the squat), barbells are going to be preferred. Ease of use and ease of loading and ability to use maximal weight will be paramount with a barbell. Generally you will find that the strongest people use barbells for the majority of their movements. Generally being they key word there.
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