To Carb or not to Carb (for weightloss)
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This is such a fantastic post, thank you so much for sharing. It’s really nice to see that the whole low vs high carb is a bit overblown (in my view). Good job on your weight loss, and I have confidence that you will maintain your amazing results - you seem like a determined and level-minded person, so no reason why you wouldn’t!
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melissalatzel25 wrote: »If humans are designed to eat carbs don't go against nature- thats why people think they need to restrict and have weight issues. eat as nature intended and lots of it and you'll lose weight and have so full energy! carb the *kitten* up
That stated I agree. This is true for people who eat a HCLFV (High Carb Low Fat Vegan) lifestyle. I am among a HCLFV lifestyle. I used to eat a SAD (Standard American Diet) lifestyle and ended up with pancreatitis 2 times in my life. I ended up becoming mostly Vegan 2 years ago in Jan/Feb and was able to come off of All of my meds. So with lots of slip ups I have lost so far 20+ lbs. I try to eat mostly raw fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds. My body feels amazing if I eat this way. In that order throughout my day I get tons of Carbs with lots of fruits and a huge salad in the dinner time with avocado or nuts in my salad. Lots of times I add fruit to my salads. So for sure Carb the *kitten* up!0 -
And there are people that eat low carb that feel amazing. There are people that eat moderate carb that feel amazing. If you are supporting Freelee as well just know Freelee is ignorant. Trashing people that don't follow her dumb ways. Supporting losing your period. Not understanding how protein works. Trash talking people that aren't skinny with thigh gaps. It's just dumb and the new shill accounts popping up here are sad.AmethistShines wrote: »melissalatzel25 wrote: »If humans are designed to eat carbs don't go against nature- thats why people think they need to restrict and have weight issues. eat as nature intended and lots of it and you'll lose weight and have so full energy! carb the *kitten* up
That stated I agree. This is true for people who eat a HCLFV (High Carb Low Fat Vegan) lifestyle. I am among a HCLFV lifestyle. I used to eat a SAD (Standard American Diet) lifestyle and ended up with pancreatitis 2 times in my life. I ended up becoming mostly Vegan 2 years ago in Jan/Feb and was able to come off of All of my meds. So with lots of slip ups I have lost so far 20+ lbs. I try to eat mostly raw fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds. My body feels amazing if I eat this way. In that order throughout my day I get tons of Carbs with lots of fruits and a huge salad in the dinner time with avocado or nuts in my salad. Lots of times I add fruit to my salads. So for sure Carb the *kitten* up!
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Kitnthecat wrote: »Great post OP. I don't have any fancy charts or anything like that, but I do know that my body loses weight faster and easier when I lower my carb intake. I was losing weight very slowly, about 10 pounds per year over a 4 year span when eating a Primal diet, which was already lower in carbs than the regular diet I used to eat, but I wanted to step things up a notch, so started eating a much lower carb diet last Fall. I have hypothyroidism, which I believe prevents me from losing weight as quickly as other folks. I truly believe that I have found a way of eating that suits me now, judging my how I feel and by the increased speed of weightloss.
I have lost 38 pounds since eating LCHF, over a period of almost 9 months, however since lowering my carb intake for my new keto diet, 20 of those pounds were lost in the last 3 months. So it took me 6 months to lose 18 pounds by lowering my carbs somewhat ( not sure how low ), but by keeping my daily carb count at under 20g in the past 3 months, I sped up the weight loss considerably.
In addition to the weight loss benefits, I have noticed that my energy levels have increased, brain fog has disappeared, physical stamina has increased, and a sense of well being and calm has overcome me. I feel better than I have in a decade, since lowering my carbs. I can see myself eating this way for many years to come. I would recommend that anyone who is struggling to lose weight give this a try.
I have been eating mainly paleo with some cheats (Frito corn chips). After 2 graduations and all the resulting dinners and cookouts, I blew up like a balloon. My feet and ankles were swollen which is not a normal thing with me.
Last Sunday I decided to do the Ketogenic diet and within 2 days the swelling was gone. The most amazing thing for me is that I have been going to bed earlier and actually falling to sleep and sleeping through the night. I have battled a sleep disorder associated with my fibromyalgia most of my life dating back to my high school years. It is also helping with my chronic pain.0 -
Kitnthecat wrote: »Great post OP. I don't have any fancy charts or anything like that, but I do know that my body loses weight faster and easier when I lower my carb intake. I was losing weight very slowly, about 10 pounds per year over a 4 year span when eating a Primal diet, which was already lower in carbs than the regular diet I used to eat, but I wanted to step things up a notch, so started eating a much lower carb diet last Fall. I have hypothyroidism, which I believe prevents me from losing weight as quickly as other folks. I truly believe that I have found a way of eating that suits me now, judging my how I feel and by the increased speed of weightloss.
I have lost 38 pounds since eating LCHF, over a period of almost 9 months, however since lowering my carb intake for my new keto diet, 20 of those pounds were lost in the last 3 months. So it took me 6 months to lose 18 pounds by lowering my carbs somewhat ( not sure how low ), but by keeping my daily carb count at under 20g in the past 3 months, I sped up the weight loss considerably.
In addition to the weight loss benefits, I have noticed that my energy levels have increased, brain fog has disappeared, physical stamina has increased, and a sense of well being and calm has overcome me. I feel better than I have in a decade, since lowering my carbs. I can see myself eating this way for many years to come. I would recommend that anyone who is struggling to lose weight give this a try.
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Kitnthecat wrote: »Great post OP. I don't have any fancy charts or anything like that, but I do know that my body loses weight faster and easier when I lower my carb intake. I was losing weight very slowly, about 10 pounds per year over a 4 year span when eating a Primal diet, which was already lower in carbs than the regular diet I used to eat, but I wanted to step things up a notch, so started eating a much lower carb diet last Fall. I have hypothyroidism, which I believe prevents me from losing weight as quickly as other folks. I truly believe that I have found a way of eating that suits me now, judging my how I feel and by the increased speed of weightloss.
I have lost 38 pounds since eating LCHF, over a period of almost 9 months, however since lowering my carb intake for my new keto diet, 20 of those pounds were lost in the last 3 months. So it took me 6 months to lose 18 pounds by lowering my carbs somewhat ( not sure how low ), but by keeping my daily carb count at under 20g in the past 3 months, I sped up the weight loss considerably.
In addition to the weight loss benefits, I have noticed that my energy levels have increased, brain fog has disappeared, physical stamina has increased, and a sense of well being and calm has overcome me. I feel better than I have in a decade, since lowering my carbs. I can see myself eating this way for many years to come. I would recommend that anyone who is struggling to lose weight give this a try.
Lost my post on the iPad. Will repost when I'm on the laptop.
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Kitnthecat wrote: »Great post OP. I don't have any fancy charts or anything like that, but I do know that my body loses weight faster and easier when I lower my carb intake. I was losing weight very slowly, about 10 pounds per year over a 4 year span when eating a Primal diet, which was already lower in carbs than the regular diet I used to eat, but I wanted to step things up a notch, so started eating a much lower carb diet last Fall. I have hypothyroidism, which I believe prevents me from losing weight as quickly as other folks. I truly believe that I have found a way of eating that suits me now, judging my how I feel and by the increased speed of weightloss.
I have lost 38 pounds since eating LCHF, over a period of almost 9 months, however since lowering my carb intake for my new keto diet, 20 of those pounds were lost in the last 3 months. So it took me 6 months to lose 18 pounds by lowering my carbs somewhat ( not sure how low ), but by keeping my daily carb count at under 20g in the past 3 months, I sped up the weight loss considerably.
In addition to the weight loss benefits, I have noticed that my energy levels have increased, brain fog has disappeared, physical stamina has increased, and a sense of well being and calm has overcome me. I feel better than I have in a decade, since lowering my carbs. I can see myself eating this way for many years to come. I would recommend that anyone who is struggling to lose weight give this a try.
I have been eating mainly paleo with some cheats (Frito corn chips). After 2 graduations and all the resulting dinners and cookouts, I blew up like a balloon. My feet and ankles were swollen which is not a normal thing with me.
Last Sunday I decided to do the Ketogenic diet and within 2 days the swelling was gone. The most amazing thing for me is that I have been going to bed earlier and actually falling to sleep and sleeping through the night. I have battled a sleep disorder associated with my fibromyalgia most of my life dating back to my high school years. It is also helping with my chronic pain.
I've noticed that too, I had been getting pain in my joints, specifically my elbows and wrists. The aches went away about a week in to low carb, before I lost any weight. Those other reasons are why I will continue, I now know that I will lose weight either way, but there are some other things from doing low carb that are worth staying that way.0 -
I think the only one saying anything like that is Mr. Knight and I had thought (perhaps incorrectly, my memory is not always perfect) he had low carbed at one point, so I'm curious to understand more about what he's saying. I suspect it's not that, precisely.0
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CARB UP !!!!!
guys please carbs aren't the enemy its perfect human food , freelee the banana girl eats 3000 cals of carbs a day (and many other super fit thin high carb vegans)
heres like to her boyfriends channel of a video on what she eats, please explore her channel and other HCLF vegans
the lifestyle is amazingggg
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Carb restriction has its place per Dr. Thomas Seyfried in preventing cancer but that overall calorie restriction is required and may be even more important than the carb restriction that he discusses in his 2012 book, Cancer as a Metabolic Disease.
Seyfried writes:
“There is no drug therapy that I am aware of that can target as many proinflammatory mechanisms in the microenvironment as can DER (dietary energy restriction). I think real progress in tumor management will be achieved once patients and the oncology community come to recognize this fact.”
Source: diagnosisdiet.com/dietary-treatment-of-cancer/
This is actually a short 4 part review of Dr. Seyfried 400 page textbook by Dr. Ede in lay terms that most of us can better understand.
Cutting carbs seems to be only very one factor to gaining better health through diet. Cutting calories all sources may apply to more people than just cutting carbs may impact on general weight loss.0 -
@melissalatzel25 You clearly haven't read the thread. No one anywhere said carbs are the enemy. Please market your program on your own thread. thank you.0
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melissalatzel25 wrote: »CARB UP !!!!!
guys please carbs aren't the enemy its perfect human food , freelee the banana girl eats 3000 cals of carbs a day (and many other super fit thin high carb vegans)
heres like to her boyfriends channel of a video on what she eats, please explore her channel and other HCLF vegans the lifestyle is amazingggg
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What does this have to do with the OP? She presented data sets comparing weight loss to carb intake on a calorie restricted diet, and concluded that it was the calorie deficit, not carb intake, that impacted her weight loss. She never said carbs were bad, so I'm not sure what you're crusading against here.0 -
melissalatzel25 wrote: »If humans are designed to eat carbs don't go against nature- thats why people think they need to restrict and have weight issues. eat as nature intended and lots of it and you'll lose weight and have so full energy! carb the *kitten* up
True, as well as protein and fat. But they've also evolved for maximum survivability which means by nature they can eat all macronutrients at any ratio depending on their environment and personal preferences.
On the topic: I also reduced my blood sugar dramatically just by losing weight and eating moderate carbs (around 150-250). Tried low carbing and it was outright harmful for me because of my preferences.
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auntstephie321 wrote: »@melissalatzel25 You clearly haven't read the thread. No one anywhere said carbs are the enemy. Please market your program on your own thread. thank you.
Sure but you dont have to be rude about it
sorry if i saw the word carbs and got excited about showing something new to most people 0
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