Dieting with Type 2 Diabetes

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I have Type 2 Diabetes and have asked for weight loss surgery, as new BMI levels have been introduced, so now I qualifier for it. I am now with a team called, weigh ahead, as part of a 3 tier system, which will help you prepare for weight loss surgery, by helping eat more healthy, to exercise and make you approach food differently.
Is there anyone else thinking about this or maybe doing it already.
I am over 50 and have dieted all my life. Lost weight then gained it all back and more, even since I can remember, so I've got to the point where I'm fed up with it all. I dont wont to go on like this as I get older. Would any one like to share they problems with me. Maybe would be friend and help one another
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  • Bshmerlie
    Bshmerlie Posts: 1,026 Member
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    My partner did the "sleeve" about a year and a half ago. She started out at 280 pounds, lost about 15 before the surgery during the class they make you do and got down to 196 after surgery. She is currently at 215. She does eat small meals but she is making up for it by snacking a lot throughout the day. I still think it was the best choice for her personality type. But the bottom line is you can gain it back if you have poor eating habits.
  • Starsel
    Starsel Posts: 18 Member
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    This is true. So you have to re train yourself. I just think I would feel so much better about myself, I will be more active, enjoy walking more, find a job. I'm not a heavy snacker. Look a treat now and then. Anything would much easier.. I have thought long and hard about it, the only way for my Diabetes to go and get off tablets is to have the opp, as I know just losing the weight by myself is not enough. I'm 58 and dont wont the rest of my life to be like this. Wont to be fit and healthy as I get older and happy. love life, love living
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
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    It's not something to go into lightly

    If there's anyway you can take the diabetes diagnosis and use it as a kickstart to get your calories under control and move more then try that ... as hard as you possibly can.

    That said there are a number of succesful, rational people with great experience of this surgery and hopefully they'll be along soon
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
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    Starsel wrote: »
    This is true. So you have to re train yourself. I just think I would feel so much better about myself, I will be more active, enjoy walking more, find a job. I'm not a heavy snacker. Look a treat now and then. Anything would much easier.. I have thought long and hard about it, the only way for my Diabetes to go and get off tablets is to have the opp, as I know just losing the weight by myself is not enough. I'm 58 and dont wont the rest of my life to be like this. Wont to be fit and healthy as I get older and happy. love life, love living

    why can't you go out for a walk now ?

    Start living now as you think you might live after surgery
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,179 Member
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    May I ask why you believe that the surgery will help with diabetes management, unless you follow a diabetes eating plan?
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    aggelikik wrote: »
    May I ask why you believe that the surgery will help with diabetes management, unless you follow a diabetes eating plan?

    There's a body of evidence that at least some types of weight loss surgery have a rapid effect on diabetes, far quicker than it takes for any weight loss to result.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24018646
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
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    rabbitjb wrote: »
    It's not something to go into lightly

    If there's anyway you can take the diabetes diagnosis and use it as a kickstart to get your calories under control and move more then try that ... as hard as you possibly can.

    That said there are a number of succesful, rational people with great experience of this surgery and hopefully they'll be along soon

    @earlnabby .. I think you know the score re diabetes, and quite possibly the WLS (although might be mistaken on the latter)
  • pedidiva
    pedidiva Posts: 199 Member
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  • Socialwacker
    Socialwacker Posts: 30 Member
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    Congrats to you for making the decision to do something about your weight. Before your surgery, may I suggest that you look into counseling. I come from a family where several have had gastric bypass surgery, a few successes (only 1 long term) but unfortunately most have lost and then gained it all back plus a few more because they never addressed why they over ate in the first place. Doesn't matter what your vice, if you eat, drink, do drugs, don't eat (anorexia), we all do it for a reason and until you understand the reason why and deal with that the cycle will continue. Surgery will not help depression, but counseling will. Loosing weight permanently is HARD WORK physically and mentally and it takes time - most of us are not very good with it taking time - I wasn't. We are all looking for quick and easy. No matter how hard I try, I can never loose more than 1 pound a week. It took me years to come to terms with that. I would always give up or come up with a new excuse - diabetes, thyroid, etc. Plain and simple: eat less, move more and most importantly DON'T STOP. There is no magic, no quick fix. If you are good and loose the weight, you can't go back to the way you were living and eat to feel good. You must learn to feel good without food. Start now. Don't wait for surgery, start moving now, start eating less now. Take the surgery seriously - its not like TV. Many family members have had secondary issues come out of the surgery (no longer able to comfortably tolerate eating meat, vomiting continues months afterwards for no reason, dairy intolerance etc). I wish you the best of luck and will be cheering you on from the sidelines!
  • ewrob
    ewrob Posts: 136 Member
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    I used to weigh 368 pounds. I've lost 190 pounds (160 in the first year, 30 in the first month) and kept it off. This video changed my life:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ

    Most people just want good news about their bad eating habits and aren't willing to make a real, permanent change. Your body is telling you that you are very sick, just like mine did when I had severe chest pains come on at rest. I hope you listen to your body like I did mine. Good luck to you.

    http://www.amazon.com/Starch-Solution-Regain-Health-Weight/dp/1623360277/
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
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    Starsel wrote: »
    This is true. So you have to re train yourself. I just think I would feel so much better about myself, I will be more active, enjoy walking more, find a job. I'm not a heavy snacker. Look a treat now and then. Anything would much easier.. I have thought long and hard about it, the only way for my Diabetes to go and get off tablets is to have the opp, as I know just losing the weight by myself is not enough. I'm 58 and dont wont the rest of my life to be like this. Wont to be fit and healthy as I get older and happy. love life, love living
    What do you mean by the bolded part?

  • pedidiva
    pedidiva Posts: 199 Member
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    ewrob, I love that guy.
  • missiontofitness
    missiontofitness Posts: 4,074 Member
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    Starsel wrote: »
    I have Type 2 Diabetes and have asked for weight loss surgery, as new BMI levels have been introduced, so now I qualifier for it. I am now with a team called, weigh ahead, as part of a 3 tier system, which will help you prepare for weight loss surgery, by helping eat more healthy, to exercise and make you approach food differently.
    Is there anyone else thinking about this or maybe doing it already.
    I am over 50 and have dieted all my life. Lost weight then gained it all back and more, even since I can remember, so I've got to the point where I'm fed up with it all. I dont wont to go on like this as I get older. Would any one like to share they problems with me. Maybe would be friend and help one another


    I've never had WLS, and it is something you shouldn't tread lightly into. There are some major life changes that come with WLS. One of which is you need to drastically overhaul your intake. You will be forced to eat a very small amount of food per day, because your stomach will hold less. Some WLS reroutes your digestive tract, and you lose the ability to absorb nutrients from much of the food you eat. You still need to be able to prove to the team you can stick to a diet before surgery, then go on a liquid diet before surgery, and then be on a liquid/soft food diet for weeks afterwards. There can also be complications. It's a great option for some people, but not for everyone.

    Given the prerequesites for WLS, it could be very plausible for you to undertake this on your own. You can eat better, you can exercise, and you can work with professionals to re-evaluate your relationship with food, and come up with a sustainable eating plan for you. All of these are things you can do now. MFP is free, and can be an excellent guide to help you reach your goals.

    Whatever you choose, I hope you choose the best option for you!
  • Starsel
    Starsel Posts: 18 Member
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    Thanks for all your comment. I do know all the pitiful's of surgery. I also understanding that it wont stop emotional eating, this is some thing I have talked about to my Therapist. I'm with a team of expects who are guiding me in the right direction. Some one said I would need to go on a liquid diet before surgery, I believe this is for people who have an over sized liver, which dont have. I am not really big and only just qualifier for surgery. I have heard that having surgery can nearly always revise Diabetes and make it normal again, where as dieting alone wont. I take 7 tables a day for health reasons which cost the NHS about £60 every 2 months, then there blood tests, eye tests, yearly check up. As I get older I'm at a higher risk of heart trouble, kidney failure and live failure.
    I have been on diets all my life, I've exercise, I've been to clubs, I have lost weight in the past, then put it all back on again and more. I do walk every day at the moment but I found it hard with my joints hurting, my body aching and my back kills me.. I can live now but I want to feel great when I'm and about and look great, I dont feel like that and havent for years
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,459 Member
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    Starsel wrote: »
    I have been on diets all my life, I've exercise, I've been to clubs, I have lost weight in the past, then put it all back on again and more.

    What kind of diets have you tried? Have you tried tracking intake using a site like MFP? Or following a diabetic diet?
  • efwolfcub
    efwolfcub Posts: 99 Member
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    I'm 5 months out from having sleeve surgery and am down over 80 pounds so far. I exercise now more than I ever have before and it's made a dramatic difference in my outlook on things. I've been extremely lucky to have virtually no long-term complications so far or food tolerance issues. I'm not going to say it's the right decision for you, but it's worth looking into. I would check out bariatricpal.com - it's probably the largest online forum for WLS patients and there's a lot of good information on there.

    As for the liquid diet prior to surgery - most surgeons require it (my surgeon had me on a liquid diet for 10 days) and it was extremely difficult. But, I got through it.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    Hi! Thanks for the nudge. Diabetes in remission here, since my bypass surgery. I have lost ninety pounds and I am coming up on my first anniversary from surgery. It sure helps to log your meals before and after surgery, as knowledge is power. Knowing your own body and how it responds to food is always good. Immediately after surgery your goal will change to making sure you are getting enough calories, especially protein. The WLS program here includes a team of specialists including a dietitian, psychologist, and physiotherapist. Listen to them all.
  • Starsel
    Starsel Posts: 18 Member
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    I am doing everything my team want me to do. Walking, eating better and controlling emotional eating by keeping busy and thinking different. Its hard when you have others problems, like not much money, no job, a unknown back condition and just lost a love one. I'm getting there.
    Dont know if people know that taking diabetes tablets has side effect, these are: feeling hungry and gaining weight. I have been the same weight now for about 2 years, I'm at my heaviest, I now just qualifier for WLS.
    I know your eating habits can change after surgery and I know you have to have small portions, there is also certain foods was I may not be able to tolerate. There's certain foods I cant have now as I also have an acid flex stomach. To much acid fruits make me feel sick, fried onions or to much raw onions, will come back up when I'm sleeping as if I'm going to be sick, if I have to spicy foods does the some. I also cough a lot on my right side, Dr's have told me this again is to do with my acid flex, there are certain tablets I cant take as I will get a reaction. So I think WLS has many benefits for me.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
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    Cheering you on from the sidelines here. All these changes will help you feel so much [edited to fix stupid spell check] better.