What do you think about GMO's?
sunnydays851
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I'm just curious about what you all think about GMO products.
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They are important for society however there is no reason why company can't post it on food labels for informational purposes0
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I'm ambivalent. I understand how they are necessary, but I've also done some pretty scary research. I do feel that all GMO products should be labeled as such, and the fact that the food companies do not want to label foods as GMOs is worrisome. Unfortunately, I think they're only going to become more common. People will debate back and forth over whether or not they are beneficial or harmful, both sides believing they are right and the other side is wrong. I think it's split 50/50. They make food more accessible to people, and they can cause harm. Nothing is perfect, and probably never will be. All we can do is inform ourselves the best we can and make the best choices for ourselves with what is made available to us; while trying not to shove our opinions onto other people. I'm all for debate, but there is a line that is crossed when the people debating don't stick to fact, and they start insulting the other persons beliefs.0
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I'm not worried about the safety of consuming them. Extremely low risk, bordering on non-existent.
I do however have concerns on the production side. Those risks are legitimate.
I 100% support labeling laws that allow non-GMO (or non-anything else, really) to market themselves as such. I am 100% opposed to labeling laws that don't allow this.
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It's unfortunate that this has even become an issue. All plants are genetically modified just through the act of pollination, which results in the swapping of genes between compatible plant species. Sometimes the results are benign but other times variants can be produced with less desirable characteristics. Personally, I prefer a controlled approach with consistent results. Most of the horror stories out there are just that...horror stories. The facts do not bear them out. What is most interesting is that the man who initially spearheaded the whole GMO panic, Mark Lynas, has admitted that he had not actually bothered to look into the science and that once he had, he realized his views were uninformed. Naturally, those who bought into this are denouncing him as a traitor to the cause rather than examining the science.0
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I choose not to eat foods containing GMOs - I know everyone has an opinion of them, but personally it is some scary stuff - bad to the point that even foreign countries won't even take our seeds containing GMOS. I am a label looker and choose to pay extra to avoid them0
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Things like this make me nervous, edible vaccines. While it sounds good in theory, there is so much room for error.
Pharmaceuticals Medicines and vaccines often are costly to produce and sometimes
require special storage conditions not readily available in third world countries. Researchers
are working to develop edible vaccines in tomatoes and potatoes.16,17 These
vaccines will be much easier to ship, store and administer than traditional injectable
vaccines.
16 Medical molecular farming: production of antibodies, biopharmaceuticals and edible vaccines in plants
(Trends in Plant Science, Vol 6, No 5, pp 219-226, May 2001)
17 Oral immunization with hepatitis B surface antigen expressed in transgenic plants (Proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences, USA, Vol 98, No 20, pp. 11539-11544, Sep 2001)0 -
Don't really care.0
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GMO's are the Devil! so is Gluten! and Artificial sweeteners! and Sunshine! and Unicorns TOO if you're honest!
Everything is bad according to at least one study. Even Unicorns. So honestly in todays society I just stick with the macros and don't worry too much about the rest.
BTW: Beer is the forgotten 4th macro0 -
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12_oz_Curls wrote: »GMO's are the Devil! so is Gluten! and Artificial sweeteners! and Sunshine! and Unicorns TOO if you're honest!
Everything is bad according to at least one study. Even Unicorns. So honestly in todays society I just stick with the macros and don't worry too much about the rest.
BTW: Beer is the forgotten 4th macro
noo, dude...didn't you hear? the unicorn study was debunked in late 2000's because the study was flawed; turns out the researchers were biased jealous horses0 -
Wheat is a GMO.
Cows are GMO's.
Anything that's been guided in its development by humans is a GMO.
Anything that uses sexual reproduction is a GMO.
I think it's a bit creepy to have bits of bacterial DNA inserted into plants intended for food. That's not a natural cross.
And I don't like that they breed food just to be resistant to the chemicals put on the crops.
But there hasn't been a problem (yet?).0 -
Honestly, I really don't care. I'm sure I'm eating genetically modified foods everyday. I don't care if the food is non-organic or if it contains gluten, etc.
There are bigger things to worry about such as poor diet and living a sedentary lifestyle.0 -
It's a lot of fear-mongering. GMOs are perfectly harmless and are helping prevent starvation in much of the world.0
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I feel asking people what they feel about GMOs is a pretty quick way to find out do they even science.0
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Then I'm sorry to tell you that you're creepy - humans have transgenic traits from bacteria, algae, and more. Research in the last year had shown nature has been doing transgenic transfer a lot. http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21646197-human-beings-ancestors-have-routinely-stolen-genes-other-species-geneticallyWheat is a GMO.
Cows are GMO's.
Anything that's been guided in its development by humans is a GMO.
Anything that uses sexual reproduction is a GMO.
I think it's a bit creepy to have bits of bacterial DNA inserted into plants intended for food. That's not a natural cross.
And I don't like that they breed food just to be resistant to the chemicals put on the crops.
But there hasn't been a problem (yet?).0 -
I won't fully embrace GMOs until I have a unicorn delivered to my door. That is all.
More resistant crops is one thing. So's saving millions from starving. I want my unicorn.
(Okay, on the flip side, I'm not actually fully comfortable with crops becoming dominated by a single genetic variety of anything with similar disease weaknesses.
More different varieties, GMO or not, pls?) 0 -
mestabrook17 wrote: »I choose not to eat foods containing GMOs - I know everyone has an opinion of them, but personally it is some scary stuff - bad to the point that even foreign countries won't even take our seeds containing GMOS. I am a label looker and choose to pay extra to avoid them
That has more to do with economics than legitimate concerns.
China rejected American corn for GMO traits when they accepted Brazilian crops with the same trait. Why? Simple, China made a futures contract to but from the USA at a high price expecting corn yield to be bad, but Brazil didn't have a futures contract - they were simply trying to break a contract with US farmers by demanding a quality they never specified in the contract.0 -
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Heh. Anyone who looks to China as a bastion of food safety is a funny, funny person.0
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »
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From a safety perspective - no issue with them
From an environmental perspective - I have not looked into it enough to firmly come down on one side or the other, however, based on what I do (or think I) know - it depends on context and the actual GMO food/substance....so I doubt I ever would come down on 'one side or the other'.0 -
Actually, GM technology is a way to avoid this problem. Normally, to get a trait the traditional way, you have to keep crossing the variety you have with the variety that has the trait you want to transfer, but in doing so, you've diluted the amount of the original's originalness by half, and you have to keep breeding it back with other unaltered ones to get the trait into the variety, while still staying the variety you want. With GM technology, you take the variety you want, give it just the trait you want, and away you go.MamaBirdBoss wrote: »I won't fully embrace GMOs until I have a unicorn delivered to my door. That is all.
More resistant crops is one thing. So's saving millions from starving. I want my unicorn.
(Okay, on the flip side, I'm not actually fully comfortable with crops becoming dominated by a single genetic variety of anything with similar disease weaknesses. More different varieties, GMO or not, pls?)
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I think GMOs should be labeled and the consumers can decide if they want them. I personally avoid them when possible.0
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Wheat is a GMO.
Cows are GMO's.
Anything that's been guided in its development by humans is a GMO.
Anything that uses sexual reproduction is a GMO.
I think it's a bit creepy to have bits of bacterial DNA inserted into plants intended for food. That's not a natural cross.
And I don't like that they breed food just to be resistant to the chemicals put on the crops.
But there hasn't been a problem (yet?).
There are no GMO wheat products on the market. And cows are not GMO. Neither fit the definition of GMO.
I'm not against GMO. But this is not correct info.
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From a safety perspective - no issue with them
From an environmental perspective - I have not looked into it enough to firmly come down on one side or the other, however, based on what I do (or think I) know - it depends on context and the actual GMO food/substance....so I doubt I ever would come down on 'one side or the other'.
This is where I stand as well. I do not fear them from a safety point of view. But I don't know if we truly realize the environmental impact yet. I also need to do more research.
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From a safety perspective - no issue with them
From an environmental perspective - I have not looked into it enough to firmly come down on one side or the other, however, based on what I do (or think I) know - it depends on context and the actual GMO food/substance....so I doubt I ever would come down on 'one side or the other'.
This is where I stand as well. I do not fear them from a safety point of view. But I don't know if we truly realize the environmental impact yet. I also need to do more research.
The challenge is we can't prove its safe, and may not know for a long time about any hidden problems. It's a classic fat tail risk....0 -
From a safety perspective - no issue with them
From an environmental perspective - I have not looked into it enough to firmly come down on one side or the other, however, based on what I do (or think I) know - it depends on context and the actual GMO food/substance....so I doubt I ever would come down on 'one side or the other'.
This is where I stand as well. I do not fear them from a safety point of view. But I don't know if we truly realize the environmental impact yet. I also need to do more research.
Same. The idea of losing biodiversity because GMO stuff just dominates when it blows around, or of losing traditional species because GMO corporations price farmers out of the seeds, isn't cool. I think it's pretty arrogant of these corporations to 1) assume they can absolutely contain the growth of things designed to be unkillable and control how things play out or 2) not care about the implications at all.
OTOH of course it is better if more people who need food and don't have access to it get it. OTOH, it's often said that we actually do have enough food, the issue is it just doesn't get distributed to the people who need it.
I'm not really cool with skirting a political problem by using a technological solution (which makes people who benefit from existing distribution patterns, such as the heads of the corporations making these foods, even wealthier) that will lead to unanticipated environmental consequences. Guarantee some unanticipated changes result; how problematic they will be in the long run is unknown.
OTOH, the odds of the current distribution pattern changing in time for people to get food they need are low, so then you've got to weigh the clear needs of living people now vs the possible needs of people (who will be affected by unknown environmental issues) in the future. And living people > non-living people.
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OTOH, believing the odds of making political changes are low ensures they don't happen, in a self-fulfulling prophecy.
OTOH, I am on a message board about weight loss instead of writing letters or participating in campaigns. So there's that.0
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