not losing weight????

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  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    you guesstimate..you do portion control and moderation, you try to make wise choices ( when you want to) and you move on.
    One day doesn't hurt when you get back on track the next day

    Life is there to be liven. You dont gain weighed or destroy your journey by one meal out!
  • lemonlionheart
    lemonlionheart Posts: 580 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Flowchart courtesy of @lemonlionheart This answers most of the typical "not losing weight" questions.

    b6zfrkyervv5.jpg

    According to this it suggests to see a doctor..but I have lost weight b4 so would this apply?

    In your case, replace the question 'how
    ok so since weighing is obviously extremely important, what to do when you're at a dinner or at work and want to grab something to eat and can't weigh anything??????? things happen and we can't always prepare our food and have to make an alternative choice.... Using your best judgment is the only solution right??? But my judgment is horrible so when I'm eating something out and I can't weigh I'm at taking a big risk right??!!!

    Yeah, it isn't always possible. But you can do things like preparing meals at home to bring to work, or choosing restaurants that have nutrition information on the website. Once you've been weighing and logging accurately for a while you'll learn to estimate a bit better for those other times too :)
  • simply_bubbz
    simply_bubbz Posts: 245 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It's ok.

    I scanned back several days through your log. My sense is you're not weighing the foods you're eating and logging consistently enough. There's a lot of entries like "Oatmeal (1 cup)".

    If you go by the serving size on the package of the oatmeal, it almost always has a weight such as (30 grams) next to it. If you weigh your portion at 35 grams, you're getting 16% more on that item alone.

    These are some posts about logging and counting that are very helpful for someone just starting out.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    it says that b/c that's exactly what it is lol. It's not a packet of oatmeal it's them oatmeals on the go that you just add water and microwave. It comes in a container similiar to those noodles in a cup...

    I don't think you get it, this video does a great job of explaining:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    I don't think you understand how I'm trying to explain the oatmeal thing b/c I'm probably not explaining correctly..but its accurate, its one container for 160 calories...you dont measure anything it just says 1 cup...
    Bexx005 wrote: »
    I thought when you have a lower calorie goal you'll lose weight? what do you mean by holding on to everything?? This is so confusing lol


    Like say you only eat 1200 calories a day, but you burn about 400-500 calories a day as well. Your body is only getting 800- 900 calories then, that's assuming if you aren't eating back your calories. Even if you do 1200 is still really low. If you are more sedentary then that amount is fine. If you eat too little then you're body goes into a "starvation mode". It isn't receiving enough nutrients to be able to function properly therefore whatever you are eating your body will hold on to it because it doesn't really know when it'll get sufficient calories again. They say for a healthy deficit to eat 20% below your maintenance calories.

    NOOO!!!! Starvation mode does NOT exist in this sense!

    OP ..i understand what you are referring regarding the little sachets but your other foods that are 'cups and spoons' are not accurately weighed.

    give me an example...I only use teaspoons and tablespoon measurements not actual spoon measurements....like salad dressing is 2 tblspoons for 70 calories I will measure 2 tablespoons....

    The video I posted gives the perfect example & benefits of using a scale instead of spoons, cups, etc.

    Ok so I watched the video which was AWESOMEEE! Thank you so much 4 sharing it with me! This is exactly why I post in these forums b/c you guys are so informative and provide great resources. Ok BUT back to the oatmeal thing I was tryng to explain b/c I STILL don't thnk you understand what i'm talking about when I was saying a cup.....Below is a pic of the instant oatmeal I was referring to in my diary. It's 160 calories for a cup but it's not for an actual measurement of a cup! The item is an oatmeal to go "cup" so that's just how it's logged ..so you're telling me I'm supposed to measure this oatmeal again myself??? I don't think you are, I just think you misunderstood what I was saying.....


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  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It's ok.

    I scanned back several days through your log. My sense is you're not weighing the foods you're eating and logging consistently enough. There's a lot of entries like "Oatmeal (1 cup)".

    If you go by the serving size on the package of the oatmeal, it almost always has a weight such as (30 grams) next to it. If you weigh your portion at 35 grams, you're getting 16% more on that item alone.

    These are some posts about logging and counting that are very helpful for someone just starting out.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    it says that b/c that's exactly what it is lol. It's not a packet of oatmeal it's them oatmeals on the go that you just add water and microwave. It comes in a container similiar to those noodles in a cup...

    I don't think you get it, this video does a great job of explaining:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    I don't think you understand how I'm trying to explain the oatmeal thing b/c I'm probably not explaining correctly..but its accurate, its one container for 160 calories...you dont measure anything it just says 1 cup...
    Bexx005 wrote: »
    I thought when you have a lower calorie goal you'll lose weight? what do you mean by holding on to everything?? This is so confusing lol


    Like say you only eat 1200 calories a day, but you burn about 400-500 calories a day as well. Your body is only getting 800- 900 calories then, that's assuming if you aren't eating back your calories. Even if you do 1200 is still really low. If you are more sedentary then that amount is fine. If you eat too little then you're body goes into a "starvation mode". It isn't receiving enough nutrients to be able to function properly therefore whatever you are eating your body will hold on to it because it doesn't really know when it'll get sufficient calories again. They say for a healthy deficit to eat 20% below your maintenance calories.

    NOOO!!!! Starvation mode does NOT exist in this sense!

    OP ..i understand what you are referring regarding the little sachets but your other foods that are 'cups and spoons' are not accurately weighed.

    give me an example...I only use teaspoons and tablespoon measurements not actual spoon measurements....like salad dressing is 2 tblspoons for 70 calories I will measure 2 tablespoons....

    The video I posted gives the perfect example & benefits of using a scale instead of spoons, cups, etc.

    Ok so I watched the video which was AWESOMEEE! Thank you so much 4 sharing it with me! This is exactly why I post in these forums b/c you guys are so informative and provide great resources. Ok BUT back to the oatmeal thing I was tryng to explain b/c I STILL don't thnk you understand what i'm talking about when I was saying a cup.....Below is a pic of the instant oatmeal I was referring to in my diary. It's 160 calories for a cup but it's not for an actual measurement of a cup! The item is an oatmeal to go "cup" so that's just how it's logged ..so you're telling me I'm supposed to measure this oatmeal again myself??? I don't think you are, I just think you misunderstood what I was saying.....


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    Yes. You should weight the oatmeal again, yourself. Package weights are allowed to legally be off by 5%.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Bexx005 wrote: »
    I thought when you have a lower calorie goal you'll lose weight? what do you mean by holding on to everything?? This is so confusing lol


    Like say you only eat 1200 calories a day, but you burn about 400-500 calories a day as well. Your body is only getting 800- 900 calories then, that's assuming if you aren't eating back your calories. Even if you do 1200 is still really low. If you are more sedentary then that amount is fine. If you eat too little then you're body goes into a "starvation mode". It isn't receiving enough nutrients to be able to function properly therefore whatever you are eating your body will hold on to it because it doesn't really know when it'll get sufficient calories again. They say for a healthy deficit to eat 20% below your maintenance calories.

    STARVATION MODE AS YOU'RE DESCRIBING IT IS PURE BOVINE EXCREMENT! The human body cannot create energy from nothing. Either it uses the energy (calories) from food or from stored sources. If one is eating at a deficit, they will lose weight. It is basic thermodynamics.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    edited June 2015
    Dnarules wrote: »
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Flowchart courtesy of @lemonlionheart This answers most of the typical "not losing weight" questions.

    b6zfrkyervv5.jpg

    According to this it suggests to see a doctor..but I have lost weight b4 so would this apply?

    You used it wrong :). Didn't you say it has been one week (not 3). And you haven't been weighing everything. Go back through the flow chart again, honestly this time.

    Lol! you got me! I only been measuring using a food scale for about a week or so..b4 it was guesstimates...thanks 4 catching that ;) I will come back to this next week

    How did you weigh the .1 of a burger yesterday? Sunday had quick add caloires. Saturday looks like nothing was weighed.

    Your guesstimates continue.
  • Strawili
    Strawili Posts: 48 Member
    edited June 2015
    Do you drink enough water? I noticed on your food diary your daily water intake is 0 cups. I'm not sure if you don't drink water or if you don't fill it in. :)
  • Valrotha
    Valrotha Posts: 294 Member
    Do you drink enough water? I noticed on your food diary your daily water intake is 0 cups. I'm not sure if you don't drink water or if you don't fill it in. :)

    Katherine beat me to it. I've seen more than one person's weight loss stall (presumably) because of low water intake. As one nutritionist amusingly described it, our bodies need water like toilets do. Try taking the water out of your toilet and see how well it functions in getting rid of waste. People, too, need water for our bodies to perform well.
  • simply_bubbz
    simply_bubbz Posts: 245 Member
    edited June 2015
    Dnarules wrote: »
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Flowchart courtesy of @lemonlionheart This answers most of the typical "not losing weight" questions.

    b6zfrkyervv5.jpg

    According to this it suggests to see a doctor..but I have lost weight b4 so would this apply?

    You used it wrong :). Didn't you say it has been one week (not 3). And you haven't been weighing everything. Go back through the flow chart again, honestly this time.

    Lol! you got me! I only been measuring using a food scale for about a week or so..b4 it was guesstimates...thanks 4 catching that ;) I will come back to this next week

    How did you weigh the .1 of a burger yesterday? Sunday had quick add caloires. Saturday looks like nothing was weighed.

    Your guesstimates continue.

    Of course I had to guestimate for the burger it was a tiny bite I had. very very tiny and I was in the car can't weigh a bite b/4 you eat it if you just taking a bit out something ...the quick calories was a subway sandwhich that I had and I used the subway calculator to get the calories.. I couldn't get exact b/c I couldn't weigh it but It was the closest I could do...Sat I weighed some stuff but others I did math by servings sizes and stuff
  • simply_bubbz
    simply_bubbz Posts: 245 Member
    Valrotha wrote: »
    Do you drink enough water? I noticed on your food diary your daily water intake is 0 cups. I'm not sure if you don't drink water or if you don't fill it in. :)

    Katherine beat me to it. I've seen more than one person's weight loss stall (presumably) because of low water intake. As one nutritionist amusingly described it, our bodies need water like toilets do. Try taking the water out of your toilet and see how well it functions in getting rid of waste. People, too, need water for our bodies to perform well.

    I drink ALOT of water...I just don't fill it in on here
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Dnarules wrote: »
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Flowchart courtesy of @lemonlionheart This answers most of the typical "not losing weight" questions.

    b6zfrkyervv5.jpg

    According to this it suggests to see a doctor..but I have lost weight b4 so would this apply?

    You used it wrong :). Didn't you say it has been one week (not 3). And you haven't been weighing everything. Go back through the flow chart again, honestly this time.

    Lol! you got me! I only been measuring using a food scale for about a week or so..b4 it was guesstimates...thanks 4 catching that ;) I will come back to this next week

    How did you weigh the .1 of a burger yesterday? Sunday had quick add caloires. Saturday looks like nothing was weighed.

    Your guesstimates continue.

    Of course I had to guestimate for the burger it was a tiny bite I had. very very tiny and I was in the car can't weigh a bite b/4 you eat it if you just taking a bit out something ...the quick calories was a subway sandwhich that I had and I used the subway calculator to get the calories.. I couldn't get exact b/c I couldn't weigh it but It was the closest I could do...Sat I weighed some stuff but others I did math by servings sizes and stuff

    You keep saying you've been weighing for about a week but your diary shows otherwise. Saturday has units of measurement that include "sandwich", "roll", "stick", "slice", and "tbsp" ... the same types of units show in today's entries. Each thread you start results in the same advice. Until you actually follow it, you won't see the progress you want. That might sound harsh, but, the truth sometimes is.
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It's ok.

    I scanned back several days through your log. My sense is you're not weighing the foods you're eating and logging consistently enough. There's a lot of entries like "Oatmeal (1 cup)".

    If you go by the serving size on the package of the oatmeal, it almost always has a weight such as (30 grams) next to it. If you weigh your portion at 35 grams, you're getting 16% more on that item alone.

    These are some posts about logging and counting that are very helpful for someone just starting out.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    it says that b/c that's exactly what it is lol. It's not a packet of oatmeal it's them oatmeals on the go that you just add water and microwave. It comes in a container similiar to those noodles in a cup...

    I don't think you get it, this video does a great job of explaining:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    I don't think you understand how I'm trying to explain the oatmeal thing b/c I'm probably not explaining correctly..but its accurate, its one container for 160 calories...you dont measure anything it just says 1 cup...
    Bexx005 wrote: »
    I thought when you have a lower calorie goal you'll lose weight? what do you mean by holding on to everything?? This is so confusing lol


    Like say you only eat 1200 calories a day, but you burn about 400-500 calories a day as well. Your body is only getting 800- 900 calories then, that's assuming if you aren't eating back your calories. Even if you do 1200 is still really low. If you are more sedentary then that amount is fine. If you eat too little then you're body goes into a "starvation mode". It isn't receiving enough nutrients to be able to function properly therefore whatever you are eating your body will hold on to it because it doesn't really know when it'll get sufficient calories again. They say for a healthy deficit to eat 20% below your maintenance calories.

    NOOO!!!! Starvation mode does NOT exist in this sense!

    OP ..i understand what you are referring regarding the little sachets but your other foods that are 'cups and spoons' are not accurately weighed.

    give me an example...I only use teaspoons and tablespoon measurements not actual spoon measurements....like salad dressing is 2 tblspoons for 70 calories I will measure 2 tablespoons....

    The video I posted gives the perfect example & benefits of using a scale instead of spoons, cups, etc.

    Ok so I watched the video which was AWESOMEEE! Thank you so much 4 sharing it with me! This is exactly why I post in these forums b/c you guys are so informative and provide great resources. Ok BUT back to the oatmeal thing I was tryng to explain b/c I STILL don't thnk you understand what i'm talking about when I was saying a cup.....Below is a pic of the instant oatmeal I was referring to in my diary. It's 160 calories for a cup but it's not for an actual measurement of a cup! The item is an oatmeal to go "cup" so that's just how it's logged ..so you're telling me I'm supposed to measure this oatmeal again myself??? I don't think you are, I just think you misunderstood what I was saying.....


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    Oatmeal cups like that can be a pain. What I might try is this:

    Take the unopened oatmeal cup and weigh in grams.
    After you've eaten the oatmeal and weigh the cup (and lid). Subtract from the original weight.
    You can do that with a 2-3 over a few days and see if they are consistently close to the labeled package weight. If not, maybe you should look for a different option.

    I have some individually wrapped cookies that I have for snacks when I have room. The labeled weight is 51g. The cookie I had today is 59 g. So a 220 cal cookie is actually 255 cal.
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    edited June 2015
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It's ok.

    I scanned back several days through your log. My sense is you're not weighing the foods you're eating and logging consistently enough. There's a lot of entries like "Oatmeal (1 cup)".

    If you go by the serving size on the package of the oatmeal, it almost always has a weight such as (30 grams) next to it. If you weigh your portion at 35 grams, you're getting 16% more on that item alone.

    These are some posts about logging and counting that are very helpful for someone just starting out.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    it says that b/c that's exactly what it is lol. It's not a packet of oatmeal it's them oatmeals on the go that you just add water and microwave. It comes in a container similiar to those noodles in a cup...

    I don't think you get it, this video does a great job of explaining:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    I don't think you understand how I'm trying to explain the oatmeal thing b/c I'm probably not explaining correctly..but its accurate, its one container for 160 calories...you dont measure anything it just says 1 cup...
    Bexx005 wrote: »
    I thought when you have a lower calorie goal you'll lose weight? what do you mean by holding on to everything?? This is so confusing lol


    Like say you only eat 1200 calories a day, but you burn about 400-500 calories a day as well. Your body is only getting 800- 900 calories then, that's assuming if you aren't eating back your calories. Even if you do 1200 is still really low. If you are more sedentary then that amount is fine. If you eat too little then you're body goes into a "starvation mode". It isn't receiving enough nutrients to be able to function properly therefore whatever you are eating your body will hold on to it because it doesn't really know when it'll get sufficient calories again. They say for a healthy deficit to eat 20% below your maintenance calories.

    NOOO!!!! Starvation mode does NOT exist in this sense!

    OP ..i understand what you are referring regarding the little sachets but your other foods that are 'cups and spoons' are not accurately weighed.

    give me an example...I only use teaspoons and tablespoon measurements not actual spoon measurements....like salad dressing is 2 tblspoons for 70 calories I will measure 2 tablespoons....

    The video I posted gives the perfect example & benefits of using a scale instead of spoons, cups, etc.

    Ok so I watched the video which was AWESOMEEE! Thank you so much 4 sharing it with me! This is exactly why I post in these forums b/c you guys are so informative and provide great resources. Ok BUT back to the oatmeal thing I was tryng to explain b/c I STILL don't thnk you understand what i'm talking about when I was saying a cup.....Below is a pic of the instant oatmeal I was referring to in my diary. It's 160 calories for a cup but it's not for an actual measurement of a cup! The item is an oatmeal to go "cup" so that's just how it's logged ..so you're telling me I'm supposed to measure this oatmeal again myself??? I don't think you are, I just think you misunderstood what I was saying.....


    eim4l9pkmdmn.jpg

    Yep. Weigh it after you open it (before adding the water), and then weigh the cup after you finish. The difference is what you consumed. Sometimes it might come up on the money or a few grams below (I've noticed that yogurt cups tend to be under, thus I don't weigh those), sometimes it might be over.

    As for eating at work, I just do my best without a scale. Prepackaged produce or meats will give me the weights to enter in. If I buy tuna, that's usually a safe bet to be at/around the weight. Frozen dinners I just log as is, and if it's over then it won't be too far off (I usually only get Smart Ones).
  • simply_bubbz
    simply_bubbz Posts: 245 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It's ok.

    I scanned back several days through your log. My sense is you're not weighing the foods you're eating and logging consistently enough. There's a lot of entries like "Oatmeal (1 cup)".

    If you go by the serving size on the package of the oatmeal, it almost always has a weight such as (30 grams) next to it. If you weigh your portion at 35 grams, you're getting 16% more on that item alone.

    These are some posts about logging and counting that are very helpful for someone just starting out.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    it says that b/c that's exactly what it is lol. It's not a packet of oatmeal it's them oatmeals on the go that you just add water and microwave. It comes in a container similiar to those noodles in a cup...

    I don't think you get it, this video does a great job of explaining:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    I don't think you understand how I'm trying to explain the oatmeal thing b/c I'm probably not explaining correctly..but its accurate, its one container for 160 calories...you dont measure anything it just says 1 cup...
    Bexx005 wrote: »
    I thought when you have a lower calorie goal you'll lose weight? what do you mean by holding on to everything?? This is so confusing lol


    Like say you only eat 1200 calories a day, but you burn about 400-500 calories a day as well. Your body is only getting 800- 900 calories then, that's assuming if you aren't eating back your calories. Even if you do 1200 is still really low. If you are more sedentary then that amount is fine. If you eat too little then you're body goes into a "starvation mode". It isn't receiving enough nutrients to be able to function properly therefore whatever you are eating your body will hold on to it because it doesn't really know when it'll get sufficient calories again. They say for a healthy deficit to eat 20% below your maintenance calories.

    NOOO!!!! Starvation mode does NOT exist in this sense!

    OP ..i understand what you are referring regarding the little sachets but your other foods that are 'cups and spoons' are not accurately weighed.

    give me an example...I only use teaspoons and tablespoon measurements not actual spoon measurements....like salad dressing is 2 tblspoons for 70 calories I will measure 2 tablespoons....

    The video I posted gives the perfect example & benefits of using a scale instead of spoons, cups, etc.

    Ok so I watched the video which was AWESOMEEE! Thank you so much 4 sharing it with me! This is exactly why I post in these forums b/c you guys are so informative and provide great resources. Ok BUT back to the oatmeal thing I was tryng to explain b/c I STILL don't thnk you understand what i'm talking about when I was saying a cup.....Below is a pic of the instant oatmeal I was referring to in my diary. It's 160 calories for a cup but it's not for an actual measurement of a cup! The item is an oatmeal to go "cup" so that's just how it's logged ..so you're telling me I'm supposed to measure this oatmeal again myself??? I don't think you are, I just think you misunderstood what I was saying.....


    eim4l9pkmdmn.jpg

    Yes. You should weight the oatmeal again, yourself. Package weights are allowed to legally be off by 5%.

    That's not gonna be easy at all...I grab these in the morning and take them to work...but say if I did measure it: these are 160 calories for each container and its 48 grams it says...If I took the oatmeal out and measured it myself and it came to 50 grams instead how would I recalculate the calories for the 2 extra grams??? ...


    You guys are telling me now to re measure packaged items which is getting very strict but yall dnt think packaged items aren't close enough?? I understand the scenarios in that video can make a huge diff...but remeasuring things like this and slices of bread and all of that seems like a lot and nothing is going to be 100 percent accurate anyway am I right?
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It's ok.

    I scanned back several days through your log. My sense is you're not weighing the foods you're eating and logging consistently enough. There's a lot of entries like "Oatmeal (1 cup)".

    If you go by the serving size on the package of the oatmeal, it almost always has a weight such as (30 grams) next to it. If you weigh your portion at 35 grams, you're getting 16% more on that item alone.

    These are some posts about logging and counting that are very helpful for someone just starting out.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1296011/calorie-counting-101/p1
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10012907/logging-accuracy-consistency-and-youre-probably-eating-more-than-you-think/p1

    it says that b/c that's exactly what it is lol. It's not a packet of oatmeal it's them oatmeals on the go that you just add water and microwave. It comes in a container similiar to those noodles in a cup...

    I don't think you get it, this video does a great job of explaining:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    I don't think you understand how I'm trying to explain the oatmeal thing b/c I'm probably not explaining correctly..but its accurate, its one container for 160 calories...you dont measure anything it just says 1 cup...
    Bexx005 wrote: »
    I thought when you have a lower calorie goal you'll lose weight? what do you mean by holding on to everything?? This is so confusing lol


    Like say you only eat 1200 calories a day, but you burn about 400-500 calories a day as well. Your body is only getting 800- 900 calories then, that's assuming if you aren't eating back your calories. Even if you do 1200 is still really low. If you are more sedentary then that amount is fine. If you eat too little then you're body goes into a "starvation mode". It isn't receiving enough nutrients to be able to function properly therefore whatever you are eating your body will hold on to it because it doesn't really know when it'll get sufficient calories again. They say for a healthy deficit to eat 20% below your maintenance calories.

    NOOO!!!! Starvation mode does NOT exist in this sense!

    OP ..i understand what you are referring regarding the little sachets but your other foods that are 'cups and spoons' are not accurately weighed.

    give me an example...I only use teaspoons and tablespoon measurements not actual spoon measurements....like salad dressing is 2 tblspoons for 70 calories I will measure 2 tablespoons....

    The video I posted gives the perfect example & benefits of using a scale instead of spoons, cups, etc.

    Ok so I watched the video which was AWESOMEEE! Thank you so much 4 sharing it with me! This is exactly why I post in these forums b/c you guys are so informative and provide great resources. Ok BUT back to the oatmeal thing I was tryng to explain b/c I STILL don't thnk you understand what i'm talking about when I was saying a cup.....Below is a pic of the instant oatmeal I was referring to in my diary. It's 160 calories for a cup but it's not for an actual measurement of a cup! The item is an oatmeal to go "cup" so that's just how it's logged ..so you're telling me I'm supposed to measure this oatmeal again myself??? I don't think you are, I just think you misunderstood what I was saying.....


    eim4l9pkmdmn.jpg

    Yes. You should weight the oatmeal again, yourself. Package weights are allowed to legally be off by 5%.

    That's not gonna be easy at all...I grab these in the morning and take them to work...but say if I did measure it: these are 160 calories for each container and its 48 grams it says...If I took the oatmeal out and measured it myself and it came to 50 grams instead how would I recalculate the calories for the 2 extra grams??? ...


    You guys are telling me now to re measure packaged items which is getting very strict but yall dnt think packaged items aren't close enough?? I understand the scenarios in that video can make a huge diff...but remeasuring things like this and slices of bread and all of that seems like a lot and nothing is going to be 100 percent accurate anyway am I right?

    50/48=1.04 servings.

    Once you get used to weighing, it'll be second nature.
  • simply_bubbz
    simply_bubbz Posts: 245 Member
    Dnarules wrote: »
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Flowchart courtesy of @lemonlionheart This answers most of the typical "not losing weight" questions.

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    According to this it suggests to see a doctor..but I have lost weight b4 so would this apply?

    You used it wrong :). Didn't you say it has been one week (not 3). And you haven't been weighing everything. Go back through the flow chart again, honestly this time.

    Lol! you got me! I only been measuring using a food scale for about a week or so..b4 it was guesstimates...thanks 4 catching that ;) I will come back to this next week

    How did you weigh the .1 of a burger yesterday? Sunday had quick add caloires. Saturday looks like nothing was weighed.

    Your guesstimates continue.

    Of course I had to guestimate for the burger it was a tiny bite I had. very very tiny and I was in the car can't weigh a bite b/4 you eat it if you just taking a bit out something ...the quick calories was a subway sandwhich that I had and I used the subway calculator to get the calories.. I couldn't get exact b/c I couldn't weigh it but It was the closest I could do...Sat I weighed some stuff but others I did math by servings sizes and stuff

    You keep saying you've been weighing for about a week but your diary shows otherwise. Saturday has units of measurement that include "sandwich", "roll", "stick", "slice", and "tbsp" ... the same types of units show in today's entries. Each thread you start results in the same advice. Until you actually follow it, you won't see the progress you want. That might sound harsh, but, the truth sometimes is.

    b/c that is what I was doing going by a package or the back of a nutrition label...if I eat a slice of cheese it says one slice is 60 calories...one mozzarella stick says 70 calories...
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Dnarules wrote: »
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    Flowchart courtesy of @lemonlionheart This answers most of the typical "not losing weight" questions.

    b6zfrkyervv5.jpg

    According to this it suggests to see a doctor..but I have lost weight b4 so would this apply?

    You used it wrong :). Didn't you say it has been one week (not 3). And you haven't been weighing everything. Go back through the flow chart again, honestly this time.

    Lol! you got me! I only been measuring using a food scale for about a week or so..b4 it was guesstimates...thanks 4 catching that ;) I will come back to this next week

    How did you weigh the .1 of a burger yesterday? Sunday had quick add caloires. Saturday looks like nothing was weighed.

    Your guesstimates continue.

    Of course I had to guestimate for the burger it was a tiny bite I had. very very tiny and I was in the car can't weigh a bite b/4 you eat it if you just taking a bit out something ...the quick calories was a subway sandwhich that I had and I used the subway calculator to get the calories.. I couldn't get exact b/c I couldn't weigh it but It was the closest I could do...Sat I weighed some stuff but others I did math by servings sizes and stuff

    You keep saying you've been weighing for about a week but your diary shows otherwise. Saturday has units of measurement that include "sandwich", "roll", "stick", "slice", and "tbsp" ... the same types of units show in today's entries. Each thread you start results in the same advice. Until you actually follow it, you won't see the progress you want. That might sound harsh, but, the truth sometimes is.

    b/c that is what I was doing going by a package or the back of a nutrition label...if I eat a slice of cheese it says one slice is 60 calories...one mozzarella stick says 70 calories...

    People keep telling you to weigh everything ... there is a reason for that advice.
  • simply_bubbz
    simply_bubbz Posts: 245 Member
    edited June 2015
    this is really discouraging now...b/c now I know I have to weigh every single thing and I cnt do that all the time b/c alot of the times I'm not home and have to pack snacks and then rely on the nutrition label...but you guys telling me I can't do that and it may hinder my weight loss so now i'm just stressed out more on this...I can't live day by day being this obsessive I don't think....eating an egg at work and not knowing if the calories is really 70 b/c grams could be off and things like that...this will make me lose my mind!
  • cwilso37
    cwilso37 Posts: 79 Member
    I am sure that other might disagree with this, but the packages themselves tend to be more uniform in weight than the contents. So I would personally just take one of the bowls and completely empty it out (consider it dieing for the cause and you can even make a little marker for remembrance) and weigh the empty bowl and just use that weight as a basic measurement. If you eat it often enough the small measurement error should roughly even out (central limit theorem and all).

    ( I would actually say over time, if you eat enough of the cups, they should even out using the same logic however there is no way to be completely sure.)
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    If you don't feel like you can commit yourself to using a food scale, then the other option is to reduce the size of the portions you're eating. Many people can succeed without a food scale; others can't.
  • Strawili
    Strawili Posts: 48 Member
    I would suggest more fruits and veggies as well. Going through your diary I'm seeing a huge deficiency of fruits and vegetables. It can be difficult to adjust to but I'm sure you can do it!
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    That's not gonna be easy at all...I grab these in the morning and take them to work...but say if I did measure it: these are 160 calories for each container and its 48 grams it says...If I took the oatmeal out and measured it myself and it came to 50 grams instead how would I recalculate the calories for the 2 extra grams??? ...

    You guys are telling me now to re measure packaged items which is getting very strict but yall dnt think packaged items aren't close enough?? I understand the scenarios in that video can make a huge diff...but remeasuring things like this and slices of bread and all of that seems like a lot and nothing is going to be 100 percent accurate anyway am I right?

    There's a lot here, I'm going to try to unpack it, so please excuse the bullet points:
    • The basic idea here is managing your CICO (Calories In - Calories Out) balance. The CI side is the easiest part to quantify and manage, so many people here focus on that part first when people say they're not seeing results.
    • You've just started logging, so you've made some beginners mistakes, and you're not sure why you're not seeing much results yet.
    • Some of what you're eating is pre-portioned products. There's nothing wrong with that, but there's often a lot of variation between the label portion and what you actually get. These can add up. Bread and cheese slices can actually be more than you think.
    • Nothing is going to be 100% accurate. Food labels (portion size being exactly equal) can be as much as 20% error alone. But, when you add another 15% measurement error, a 100 calorie item can be 138. The closer you can dial that in, the more successful you can be.
    • Some things you do for habit now might not work out for you and your goals to lose weight. You don't have to change everything at once. Getting your measurements as close as possible can help you make more informed choices about what to do.

    Everyone here has found their own balance about how strict they need to be to see progress. You may find a less strict method works better for you, but if you don't see results in 2-3 weeks it helps to tighten it up so you can better understand what you're doing on a daily basis that works and doesn't work.
  • simply_bubbz
    simply_bubbz Posts: 245 Member
    I understand totally. But dang this is supposed 2 be a lifestyle change.. and I can't see myself living my life measuring every single thing that goes in my body. That's just so overwhelming to me you know? That's just like how we log calories burned when exercising...well we burn calories all through the day and we normally don't log those so we not gonna be accurate with everything
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    I understand totally. But dang this is supposed 2 be a lifestyle change.. and I can't see myself living my life measuring every single thing that goes in my body. That's just so overwhelming to me you know? That's just like how we log calories burned when exercising...well we burn calories all through the day and we normally don't log those so we not gonna be accurate with everything

    Fair enough, it's a big change to what you've become accustomed to. But even if you lose weight you will gain it back if you don't make some permanent changes to your habits. Many of us do not plan to continue weight everything as strictly after we hit our goal weight, but we do plan to make sustainable efforts to manage it going from that time.

    As for exercise, many of us log that here, too. After all, it gives us more calories to play with during the day. But exercise is even less accurate to measure, so first thing is to nail down the calories you eat, and usually the exercise works out OK without much more tweaking.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    now here is maybe an option for you

    Weigh everything your normally want to eat...write it down and do it in a cup. Now you have the size of a cup...dont eat more than that. so reverse it. So make your portions my weighing it and keep in mind how much it is visually. Stick to it that way
    Not accurate and harder to have your deficit. But worth trying when you want to change your life.

    Maybe that will work for you
    when you really want it you will get there.

    You have to be ready in your mind to do this.
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    Oh yeah, here's a post I wrote a while back about all the stuff I had to unlearn for myself. I went for years believing I was fat because of some of this nonsense. I lost 60 lbs a couple years ago doing this. I gained some, not all, back last year, so I'm here doing it again. It's working again, just like before.

    If I can do it, you certainly can.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10183824/things-i-had-to-unlearn-about-losing-weight
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