the opposite of support id say

bigislandgrrl · May 2011

I dont understand why some of the mfp community come in here to bag on people in a public forum. Of course it would be assinine for me to suggest that people not judge others, but human nature shall prevail.
I for one, came here for support, and people that will hold me accountable for my behaviors that have gotten me to where I am. What I didnt come here for, was passive aggressive comments posted chastizing people for what you deem to be unsatisfactory.
I have lost weight and gained it back so many times Ive forgotten. Ive known all kinds of folks as well and what I can say is that people are different. What works for one, doesnt necessarily work for another. I think we are all on a path to better ourselves, but we dont need comments from the peanut gallery about "oh, some people are not eating all their calories, and their friends congratulate them for it, it makes me so sad", or "I cant belive some of the things people are eating.", and any other judgmental comments and remarks that are probably better kept to yourselves.
Thats fine if you want to obsess over what others are eating, how much and when. Personally, Im doing just fine obsessing over that for myself, but thanks for the added concentration! But oh wait, whats going on with you? Have you forgotten about you??
I also think some of these folks are just down right jealous that some are able to eat some fun things and still tick off some pounds. I say, more power to em, I would if I could, but for now, ILL DO WHAT WORKS FOR ME!
Thanks for allowing my rant!

MyaPapaya75 · May 2011

Nice post Im in 99.9% agreement lol

SilentRenegade · May 2011

Too bad there isn't a "like" option on this site. I definitely agree with you!

erinnicolette · May 2011

Is there a way to report a negative person like that? We are here to support each other- no matter how many times some fall off the band wagon- yes, we knew it was wrong, and NO, we don't need you to put us down- right? I'm on your side gf!

♥AngelKisses♥ · May 2011

:drinker: Cheers darling! I eat processed "crap" and chocolate and as long as I am still losing I'm ok with that. I get kinda down when I read other people talking about how horrible processed foods are and what not. But I try to just let it roll off my back.. BUT again I agree whole heartedly!

shalynna89 · May 2011

Completely Agree!!!

Sunshine_Girlie · May 2011

While it's great to have a bunch of support and I see where you're coming from, if I am having a rough day, it's nice to know that people are looking at what I'm putting in my body. When I add someone, I don't mind them giving me their opinion and input. If I don't agree, I simply let them know. If it's that big of a deal, I'll delete them.

Just make sure you keep your friend list to the people who truly support you and your needs. :]
And as for forums, just ignore their remarks.

Lindz2323 · May 2011

I definitely agree with you!! Great point!

bigislandgrrl · May 2011

Thanks girls! After posting I was asking myself if maybe I was just being over sensitive. I can be a bit emotional at times.

anitamartina · May 2011

Amen Sister!

Maybe you can block those who are snarky so you don't have to hear them? I'm not really sure how the mechanics of this software work, but there could be some privacy stuff to do to keep the jealous ones out of your food and exercise diary.

From how you describe their actions and remarks, they sure sound like they're in junior high. :grumble:

Take care.

-Anita :happy:

Azuleelan · May 2011

So I have to "support" the girl eating at McDonald's every day and logging in "cleaning" as her only exercise, otherwise I'm evil. Wow.

srp2011 · May 2011

If the comments are just petty, I would agree with you, and I don't know all of the comments you are referring to, but I think some of the comments are actually more supportive than the mindless rah-rah-ing that is considered "support". How is it supporting someone to let them continue to think that they are eating healthy when they are not? It may be harsh, but sometimes people need a wake-up call. Sure, they may feel great if you tell them a 3 month "plateau" is just water weight or that they are building muscle, but when the truth is they're frequently eating junk and going over their calorie count, how is that really helping them? Maybe some people are genuinely concerned about people who aren't eating enough, or are continuing unhealthy eating habits, and are concerned about other people encouraging their unhealthy habits, or are concerned with some of the misinformation that unfortunately gets passed around in open forums like this.

StabR80 · May 2011

So I have to "support" the girl eating at McDonald's every day and logging in "cleaning" as her only exercise, otherwise I'm evil. Wow.

Maybe she is a mother of 4 kids ages 5 and under and has her activity level set to sedentary. That may be the only "exercise" she gets most days outside of chasing her kids around all day. :blushing:

Azuleelan · May 2011

So I have to "support" the girl eating at McDonald's every day and logging in "cleaning" as her only exercise, otherwise I'm evil. Wow.

Maybe she is a mother of 4 kids ages 5 and under and has her activity level set to sedentary. That may be the only "exercise" she gets most days outside of chasing her kids around all day. :blushing:

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I actually agree, that hypothetical "she" might only get that exercise... some people are that busy. But she eats ONLY, EXCLUSIVELY crap at the same time... I mean, where's the effort? And to be honest I feel for her kids.
I just deleted someone like that from my page, it made me want to shoot myself every time I read her updates.

So... not so hypothetical after all :laugh:

StabR80 · May 2011

So I have to "support" the girl eating at McDonald's every day and logging in "cleaning" as her only exercise, otherwise I'm evil. Wow.

Maybe she is a mother of 4 kids ages 5 and under and has her activity level set to sedentary. That may be the only "exercise" she gets most days outside of chasing her kids around all day. :blushing:

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I actually agree, that hypothetical "she" might only get that exercise... some people are that busy. But she eats ONLY, EXCLUSIVELY crap at the same time... I mean, where's the effort? And to be honest I feel for her kids.
I just deleted someone like that from my page, it made me want to shoot myself every time I read her updates.

So... not so hypothetical after all :laugh:

I get ya! :bigsmile:

paulaGetshealthy · May 2011

I love this.

corsayre8 · May 2011

I actually feel that the majority of people on MFP are genuine, polite and sensitive people. Are their exceptions? Of course! But if you compare he boards here, to most others, the degree of civility is much higher than usual.

But people are still people. Some are not as well mannered, and part of being in a community is learning to deal with people who have opposing views.

Personally, I just (figuratively) walk away from these and realize that they are not part of my life... Unless I choose to allow them to affecte emotional state - and that is so not worth it!

bigislandgrrl · May 2011

I guess a point I failed to make was that IM HERE to be held accountable, so CALL ME ON IT! If you think Im eating crap, or NOT eating enough calories, say so. Dont hide behind some snide public remark so that girls already low on self esteem can worry about whether this idiot is talking about them... I notice this site is predominantly women, and many I would venture to assume are trying to build a better body image while they build a better body.
As far as I can see, there is no benefit to what I described above.
Now to address the support of the girl eating at McDs. I never once said you should support someone making choices that YOU deem right or wrong in any way. What I said was to either call the person on it, or keep it to yourself. No need to create an environment of paranoia. It reminds me of more than a few "catty" offices Ive worked in before. Its not a pleasant environment.

bigislandgrrl · May 2011

I guess a point I failed to make was that IM HERE to be held accountable, so CALL ME ON IT! If you think Im eating crap, or NOT eating enough calories, say so. Dont hide behind some snide public remark so that girls already low on self esteem can worry about whether this idiot is talking about them... I notice this site is predominantly women, and many I would venture to assume are trying to build a better body image while they build a better body.
As far as I can see, there is no benefit to what I described above.
Now to address the support of the girl eating at McDs. I never once said you should support someone making choices that YOU deem right or wrong in any way. What I said was to either call the person on it, or keep it to yourself. No need to create an environment of paranoia. It reminds me of more than a few "catty" offices Ive worked in before. Its not a pleasant environment.

Azuleelan · May 2011

I guess a point I failed to make was that IM HERE to be held accountable, so CALL ME ON IT! If you think Im eating crap, or NOT eating enough calories, say so. Dont hide behind some snide public remark so that girls already low on self esteem can worry about whether this idiot is talking about them... I notice this site is predominantly women, and many I would venture to assume are trying to build a better body image while they build a better body.
As far as I can see, there is no benefit to what I described above.
Now to address the support of the girl eating at McDs. I never once said you should support someone making choices that YOU deem right or wrong in any way. What I said was to either call the person on it, or keep it to yourself. No need to create an environment of paranoia. It reminds me of more than a few "catty" offices Ive worked in before. Its not a pleasant environment.

Got you now. I actually DID tell her directly; I'm like that...
I thought you were the kind (of which there are also many here) that want people to applaud every time they do... well... nothing. Now it's clear you aren't... awesome

srp2011 · May 2011

I get what you're saying now and agree with you completely. I always point it out directly to the person. I just don't believe in applauding poor choices for the sake of being warm and fuzzy :-)

fteale · May 2011

I totally agree. Which is why I get so frustrated when people come on here preaching about how their way is the only way, when it is abundantly clear that all sorts of approaches have similar results - low fat, low carb, calorie counting alone, cardio only, weights only, eating back exercise calories, not eating them back, or a combination. Every single approach has worked for some people on here. The preaching is just boring.

StabR80 · May 2011

I guess a point I failed to make was that IM HERE to be held accountable, so CALL ME ON IT! If you think Im eating crap, or NOT eating enough calories, say so. Dont hide behind some snide public remark so that girls already low on self esteem can worry about whether this idiot is talking about them... I notice this site is predominantly women, and many I would venture to assume are trying to build a better body image while they build a better body.
As far as I can see, there is no benefit to what I described above.
Now to address the support of the girl eating at McDs. I never once said you should support someone making choices that YOU deem right or wrong in any way. What I said was to either call the person on it, or keep it to yourself. No need to create an environment of paranoia. It reminds me of more than a few "catty" offices Ive worked in before. Its not a pleasant environment.

Yup, same here that is why I am here as well. I want to be told what I could be doing better too

ashlinmarie · May 2011

I'd say 13 lbs is 3 weeks is pretty darn good weight loss. I work at McDonalds and don't have time to make myself meals in the morning so I tend to eat there daily (try to eat the oatmeal though as its surprisingly healthy and then sometimes treat myself with a sandwich or ice cream on good days). I also never eat back my calories and have a hard time meeting 1200 since I can't snack at work, but I don't starve myself. I eat if I'm hungry and there are days I make better choices than others but its working for ME. If I ever see someone post like that, I'd report them.

However, I am guilty of ENCOURAGING people to eat back their calories or at least meet the 1200 and to exercise. I know you need to feed your body and exercise just makes you feel GREAT. I don't chastise them for not doing those things though.

unsuspectingfish · May 2011

That's actually part of why I don't make my food diary public. There's always someone out there who's going to find fault with what you're doing, no matter how good you are. I'm almost entirely vegetarian and eat very few processed foods (because, sadly, the chocolate I eat counts as "processed", but I'm not giving that up), but I could find several people in my own apartment complex, let alone this site, who would consider the way I eat absolutely disgusting.

the opposite of support id say

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