Grasping for some Hope...

StrongHeart
StrongHeart Posts: 293 Member
edited September 27 in Health and Weight Loss
I am a junk food junkie.
I crave sugar, salty, fatty...etc.
I KNOW I cannot allow myself to have "junk food" because I know that they lead to binges which lead to weight gain and water retention.

I successfully deny myself these types of foods and I do well for a few weeks, then I start to feel deprived, cheated, and left out. I say to myself "It just isn't fair!"
I think..."I'll just have a little bit; a little bit will not hurt." But after that ONE BITE the rest is downhill.

At least for me, these types of foods MUST be treated like alcohol to an alcoholic, crack to a druggie, and tobacco to an ex-smoker. I need the strength to say NO all the time not just most of the time.

I want to be released from the feelings of resentment and bitterness I feel when others eat these foods with no repercussions but I cannot.
I want to be able to choose the "healthy" foods EVERY TIME, no matter where I am or who I'm with.

Do you think there is any hope of me ever achieving these goals?

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  • DawnLosing
    DawnLosing Posts: 87
    I have found that my new junk food is watermelon, find your new junk food, it will help!!!
  • vastautumn
    vastautumn Posts: 5
    I too struggle with "It's not fair". I have been trying to stay busy and focus on the things I enjoy in life that is not food related. I really hate to exercise, but I am learning to enjoy a walk around the lake which is a mile. Just stay positive and you will achieve your goals!!!!

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  • guppygirl322
    guppygirl322 Posts: 408 Member
    Yes, find something new, something good to "binge" on. Mine is seedless red grapes. My go to junk food was always plain corn chips with salsa. I could eat a family size bag in one sitting EASY. Needless to say, I don't have them anymore. I do allow myself to have them if we go to a Mexican restaurant, because hey, I don't do that very often. Plus I'm used to eating less, so even though I do damage, it isn't anywhere near as what it used to be.

    I read an article not too long ago about how food companies MAKE the food so that you crave it. Anything refined, salty, sweet, your body just wants more and more.

    You'll get there. You are correct, you have been addicted to these foods (because they are processed to be that way) and you need to detox. The more healthy, nutrient dense foods you consume now, the more the cravings will subside. But it does help if the temptation is not in front of you.
  • You've already lost some good weight. I also am addicted to the same things you are. I'ts not human to expect yourself to say never. It sets you up to binge. Do your best on the days you don'.t crave. And allow yourself a treat when your body says you need it. Just don't eat the whole store if you know what I mean. I don't binge near the amount I used to.if I treat myself sometimes.
    Best Wishes.:smile: Robin
  • kirstyfromscotland
    kirstyfromscotland Posts: 555 Member
    fi found finding a favorite meal help because i crave that most of the time (jacket potato with cheese and salad and coleslaw) but if i am somewhere where there is a McDonalds (the deaded word!) i will have a meal and just work extra hard the next day. I find if i totally deprive myself then i want it more, I dont live or work near those types of fast food places so it is easy for me to only have it as a treat, hope that helps. Good luck.x
  • guppygirl322
    guppygirl322 Posts: 408 Member
    I too struggle with "It's not fair". I have been trying to stay busy and focus on the things I enjoy in life that is not food. I really hate to exercise, but I am learning to enjoy a walk around the lake which is a mile. Just stay positive and you will achieve your goals!!!!

    It's not fair!!!! What am I supposed to EAT!!!! LOL, that sounds JUST like me when I first started. Keeping busy and enjoying things that aren't food are the key FOR SURE!
  • superbeffie
    superbeffie Posts: 93 Member
    First, you have to forgive yourself for getting fat. You sound a lot like me, as in someone who is bitter/angry at times over what has happened to my body. It's ok. It happened, and all that matters now is what you do from here on out.

    Let's say you binge and eat a pan of brownies. Does that mean your world is going to end? Does that mean that all the progress you made in the last 2 weeks is suddenly erased? No. You just have to say, "Oops, bad choice." and pick right back up tomorrow.

    There will come a time when the intense cravings and crazy binges will seem like a distant memory. But more than that, when you fail a little it will be ok. Everyone is entitled to some good old fashioned junk now and again. Just don't let one slip derail you. So often we let one overindulgence turn to a weekend or and entire week or month of pigging out because we "already blew it"

    You can always come here for support when you slip up, too.
  • Lilianam881
    Lilianam881 Posts: 25
    I feel the same way. I had a doctor tell me once that sugar was one of the strongest addictions to quit just like heroin is to an addict. So we need to find our own form of methadone! :) I dont think you will ever fully stop your cravings or thoughts about these fatty, salty foods. I crave carbs, fat and salt ALL the time but its somthing you have to replace with another habit and make the good habit stick! :) Good luck, keep strong. You CAN DO IT!!!
  • azlady7
    azlady7 Posts: 471 Member
    There is a way to look at it other than its not fair others can eat it with no repercussions.....they are slowly killing themselves everytime they it. Just because they look like they are healthy doesnt mean they are. You need to take comfort in the fact that your not poisoning your body as you sit there and eat your grilled chicken while they clog their arteries. Imagine, whenever you get down and tempted, what it is going to do to your circular system and your heart as you take a bite of that kind of food. It cures me 95% of the time :) eventually you will change your desires by training your body to physically reject the junk :) good luck!
  • abbyholm
    abbyholm Posts: 12
    There's a few ways you can manage the junk food cravings:

    1. Find some lower calorie alternatives. Have you ever heard of the "Eat This, Not That" series? They're fantastic books that show simple switches you can make to save yourself a ton of calories in normal foods. While the "better" option may still be high in calories, you can save yourself some by going for that option rather than another.

    2. Let yourself eat some! Instead of going cold turkey work yourself off them gradually. Having a brownie or some chips every other day (and making the calorie/exercise room to accommodate it) is better than holding off and then overindulging. I've read recent studies showing that people who allow themselves some room for their favorites end up being more successful in weight loss in the long run, and even reduce their cravings for that item. Pick 1 or 2 foods that you have the strongest cravings for and see where you can work them into your eating plan once in awhile (in reasonable amounts- one serving only), whether every other day or once a week as a reward, whatever works for you. When you take away the taboo on the food it will psychologically make it less desirable and you could very well end up with fewer cravings!

    3. Find indulgent foods that you can get in small packages. When you go grocery shopping, buy only a tiny amount of an indulgent food so that when cravings hit you can't overindulge. Force yourself to stick to your pre-determined list when shopping- this is easier said than done but if you create a route in the grocery store beforehand and a time limit (no browsing) you can have an easier time preventing yourself from picking up a box of little debbie's along the way.

    I hope this helps!
  • Achlys101
    Achlys101 Posts: 44
    Get them out of your house and don't go down the aisles at the store if you can help it. But after 5 days of only drinking one can of cherry coke a day I have found that when I went to a restaurant last night that I hated the taste of the coke and drank some water instead. I have never done that but its a good start you can change your taste buds but it takes time and patience and if you start feeling that way where you deserve it try and remember that way of thinking is what made you gain the weight.
  • guppygirl322
    guppygirl322 Posts: 408 Member
    Yes, tiny packets are the key. Never again will I buy the Costco size jug of Jelly Bellys. THAT was a disaster, lol. Can't get little packets of plain corn chips though, they only have the flavored ones. If I could get a little packet every now and then I'd feel a bit better about it. Oh well, better to be healthy!
  • suzitkd
    suzitkd Posts: 110
    There's a reason why junk food tastes so good, it has a lot of fat, and our body NEEDS fat - it just needs to be the right type! It's worth thinking about trying to give yourself some good fats - from nuts and seeds, avocados, olives - think mediterranean diet basically. When your body then starts getting the right amount of the nutrients it needs, you will start to find that you crave these junk foods LESS! Your body NEEDS fat - so make sure you give it the right type of fat - it's a myth that eating all fats will make you fat. There's an interesting article here: http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/fitness/weight-loss/weight-loss-myth-eating-fat-makes-you-fat.html
  • guppygirl322
    guppygirl322 Posts: 408 Member
    My doctor told me that unsalted almonds and walnuts were very good sources of healthy fats. Gotta be careful with those too though, very easy to go over and consume too many calories.
  • Aesop101
    Aesop101 Posts: 758 Member
    Keep them out of the house. I honestly don't understand why people crave those things. Candy bars make me feel nauseous. Chips leave me feeling bloated and still hungry. Next time you think about those things look at the nutrition content. It's nada!

    I don't eat french fries anymore. Can't say I miss them. I will eat tortilla chips with homemade salsa though. If you want a healthy snack with crunch try Cauliflower. Nice crunch and very low in calories. Has a bit a mild onion flavor as well. Celery is good too. Has a bit of a salty taste.

    When I see people eating chips they usually look bored and detached. Have you heard Jillian's story about a day in Karate training. She took some chips in with her. She was eating them while the instructor was talking. Afterwards the instructor called her aside and said hey look, "you're not serious about this and are wasting your mom's money. You need to go."
  • cjs3001
    cjs3001 Posts: 273 Member
    From personal experience I think that if you cut out 'x' food, it's not going to make you feel very good. I still have the odd take away, I'll still have a few beers and if you try and take my chocolate mousse off me I'll bash you with my spoon. I think you need to enjoy what you're eating else you'll give up. Have some crisps or chocolate, but maybe have a salad or double up on the amount of veggies you were going to have with dinner. If you ban it completely you'll want it more and if you 'cave' you'll only feel the worse for it. You'll start losing weight and hopefully think 'well I could eat this but I'm weighing myself tomorrow/I've had such a great couple of days' and hopefully you'll get to the point where you know you don't have to binge on it to enjoy it.

    But like I said, that's just me and I'm sure we're all different. Best of luck with whatever decision you make :)
  • Pangui
    Pangui Posts: 373 Member
    For each of us, it is something different that leads us astray. I don't feel tempted by junk food, so I don't exactly have the same food issues as you do. For me, it is hard to stop eating once I start. So if I tried to eat 3 meals a day and two healthy snacks, I would be in trouble 5 times/day. I would want to keep eating and not stop. I have learned that for me, it is best to avoid eating altogether except for two meals a day. Then I permit myself to eat whatever I want for those two meals. Since I don't crave the fatty sugary stuff, it is hard for me to overeat if I only have two meals a day. Obviously, this might not be a good approach for you.

    My guess is that for now, you are correct. You must eliminate ALL junk food from your home and surroundings. This is not likely a forever thing, but just while you are in this phase. I would do my best to find alternative and satisfying items for your junk food. Perhaps some low calorie yogurts, low calorie pudding cups, packages of 100 or 90 calorie deserts, baked chips. You can still get your sweet and salty fix, but in limited quantities. As Dawn suggested, she likes watermelon. One of my healthy treats is dill pickles. I just love them.

    I have been working on this weight loss pretty actively for a couple of years (with 7 months off in the middle to gain back most of my losses). What I have really noticed is that we go through phases. Our food issues change over time. We need to be mindful and observant of what is working and what isn't, what we can control and what we cannot. We need to be ready to change our plan of attack when something quits working, rather than just quitting. For awhile, I could only maintain control if I was dieting full bore and losing weight at a rapid pace. I needed that for my motivation. It's a hard way to go, because once you mess up, it's hard to get back into the mindframe. Currently, I am patient enough to work at this at a leisurly pace. I am only trying to lose 4 or 5 pounds a month. Sometimes this is very hard because I forget I am dieting. But I know this is the best way because that is what I will have to eat like to maintain my goal weight when I get there. In a few weeks, I may need to change my approach. Things get stale and we get bored. Rather than taking a break from dieting, just change up your routine. So while now I only feel safe eat two meals/day, in the future, when I feel more in control of my eating, I may up that to include some healthy snacks and have smaller meals. The reason the two meals a day is working for me now is because I can eat large quantities, feel fully satisfied and still lose weight. The downside is that I have to basically fast the rest of the day. Of course, this isn't all that hard when you aren't hungry.

    So my advice to you is to first, identify your biggest eating issue (which you have already done), make a plan to deal with that (like finding substitutes for your junk food) and then focus on your behavior by documenting your ever activity. You need to be selfish and you need to think of this a lot. Don't let your mind ever wander far from what you want to achieve. Keep track of everything you eat, even if it doesn't fit within your goal. If you are out of control for more than two days, go back to step two and come up with another plan. Don't let weeks go by without reassessing your plan of attack.

    I don't know if that helps at all, but at least for me to just respond to your post helps keep me focused on my goals and approach (and it keeps me out of the kitchen cupboards).

    Best wishes
  • sheffiej34
    sheffiej34 Posts: 91
    ABSOLUTELY!!

    I also crave salty and fried foods, next to breads. All very bad for waist line and blood pressure. I have struggled with abstaining for quite some time and never really seamed to get over it. Recently, I joined Healthy Figures. They gave me some appetite suppressants and put me on a high protein/very low calorie diet for the first 3 days. I lost 7 pounds in the first week.

    I am under medical supervision and not a big fan of the Atkin's diet for long term (bad on the kidneys), but in the short term it worked for me. The dietician explained that denying yourself carbs, veggies and fried foods for the first three days helps to cleanse the body from "craving" for it.

    True or not? I don't know. All I can tell you is that I am on week two and I went to Whataburger w/ the family and ate a grilled chicken breast and I was satisfied. I celebrated my stepson's 20th B'day w/ a strawberry cheesecake and I had no desire to eat it - the first day. The second day was harder, but I managed to abstain; and thanks to everyone else, it was gone in 2 days! LOL.

    I am a fried chicken (any form), chicken fried steak/fingers, fried veggies, potato chip kinda girl. I love the crunch. I think I am addicted to that feeling. These past 2 weeks I have managed to grill chicken, steak or pork, steam veggies, avoid breads and I don't feel like I am missing anything. Maybe it's the suppressants, the true test will be when I come off them in the short term.

    Your desire is possible. Maybe instead of going cold turkey, limit yourself each week to what you crave (without the guilt). Make sure you include healthier alternatives in-between. Say you start off with 1 meal a day eating what you want, the other meals/snacks are healthy versions. Then each week, lose a day of bad foods until you're eating all healthy meals. I don't believe we need to forgo what we crave indefinitely, but moderation IS the key. If we eat them sparingly, say one meal every 1-2 weeks while maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle; we should be fine. Consider it like a reward for all your hard work.

    If you absolutely must abstain, just remember you are NOT BEING DEPRIVED, you are CHOOSING A BETTER LIFE for yourself. Ask yourself when you look at the doughnuts, fried chicken, etc, do I really need this? What I want is a healthier body, will this help me achieve my goals?

    Know that YOU DO HAVE THE POWER to say no. Do not get so frazzled or guilt-ridden when you do give in. Just remind yourself to do better the next time. Making a lifestyle change is not easy. Took me 30+ years. I reached my rock-bottom I guess and I have a desire to change more than I ever have before. We are all in this together. Just take it one day at a time, stop the blame game (for you and your friends), find healthy alternatives to what you crave, and you will achieve your goal.
  • milaxx
    milaxx Posts: 1,122 Member
    For I found that once I removed the junk foods, soda and processed foods the cravings left and I could make good foods choices. Processed foods, especially love fat and no fat foods are just as bad as junk food and help perpetuate the junk food cravings. Once I got used to eat real food or at least as real as you can get the cravings left. Soda really triggered my need for sweet so kicking that was a HUGE help.

    If you did it once, you can do it again. Try eating cleaner and see if that helps. it also helped for me to not think in terms of "healthy food", "diet" or "cheating". I plan my meals as much as possible and try to figure out how to eat well in all types of situations. This isn't temporary for me, it's a lifestyle change.so I am only eating what I can safely eat the rest of my life without feeling deprived.
  • StrongHeart
    StrongHeart Posts: 293 Member
    I thank each of you for the suggestions and the encouragement.

    I will take it all into consideration and then make my decision on whether or not to totally abstain from my "trigger foods".
  • mamato3inca
    mamato3inca Posts: 168 Member
    Great suggestions!

    I find I do well, when I eat the foods I love, but I make them healthier. You can make almost anything healthier. Even fried chicken, use panko and bake it. Maybe get a few new cookbooks and make some new recipes. Don't buy food you don't like because it's "healthy". Eat things you do like, but make them healthier.
  • jcl1981
    jcl1981 Posts: 60 Member
    i have probably posted this a hundred times, but try www.hungrygirl.com

    She has thousands of recipes for junk foods that have had a healthy makeover but still taste great, go to the chew the right thing link and type in your favorite food, like buffalo wings, she actually has three recipes for that, enjoy!
  • SAR1L
    SAR1L Posts: 51 Member
    I often find if I allow myself to have a little bit of naughty food each day say.. a single serving.. maybe one in morning and one in afternoon between meals.. i have less urge to splurge.. and don't feel I am depriving myself or dieting.
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