In search of lean muscle....

ndj1979
ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
I hear a lot of people saying that they want to add "lean muscle," which got me thinking, what the heck is lean muscle? Does this mean there is fatty muscle too?

More than likely this is something from brosciencelandia that someone read on the internet, or some fitness magazine.

At the end of the day muscle = muscle. There is nothing lean, fatty, etc, about it.

However, if anyone has a definitive definition of lean muscle that they would like to share, please feel free...

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I'm with you, but you have to understand how much fitness magazines, supplements, classes, etc, love using the term "lean muscle" to lure people in. People hear the term and think it's a real thing.

    its just amusing that no one stops to think about it, and think "well, if I have lean muscle does that mean I have fatty muscle??"
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    I'm pretty sure they hear lean mass and then start saying lean muscle.

    We know that lean mass is more than just muscle.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure they hear lean mass and then start saying lean muscle.

    We know that lean mass is more than just muscle.

    This OP.
  • tibby531
    tibby531 Posts: 717 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    I'm with you, but you have to understand how much fitness magazines, supplements, classes, etc, love using the term "lean muscle" to lure people in. People hear the term and think it's a real thing.

    its just amusing that no one stops to think about it, and think "well, if I have lean muscle does that mean I have fatty muscle??"

    we don't talk about fatty muscle. it's too embarrassing. ;)
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    I find it bizarre when guys use the term "lean muscle;" I've always thought of it as a stupid girl-focused fitness magazine term. A totally made-up marketing phrase, sort of like "toning." I figured it was one of those "the girls don't want to get all muscle-bound and bulky...let's call it 'lean muscle' so it's less scary" things.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure they hear lean mass and then start saying lean muscle.

    We know that lean mass is more than just muscle.

    agree
  • AlisonH729
    AlisonH729 Posts: 558 Member
    edited July 2015
    Without noticing who started it, I clicked on this thread to see if @ndj1979 had called out the OP on their use of the words 'lean muscle' yet.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I find it bizarre when guys use the term "lean muscle;" I've always thought of it as a stupid girl-focused fitness magazine term. A totally made-up marketing phrase, sort of like "toning." I figured it was one of those "the girls don't want to get all muscle-bound and bulky...let's call it 'lean muscle' so it's less scary" things.

    I have never heard a guy say that ....but then again, I miss a lot
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    AlisonH729 wrote: »
    Without noticing who started it, I clicked on this thread to see if @ndj1979 had called out the OP on their use of the words 'lean muscle' yet.

    rule number one, it is only OK if I say it... :)
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I find it bizarre when guys use the term "lean muscle;" I've always thought of it as a stupid girl-focused fitness magazine term. A totally made-up marketing phrase, sort of like "toning." I figured it was one of those "the girls don't want to get all muscle-bound and bulky...let's call it 'lean muscle' so it's less scary" things.

    You know men using the words lean muscle?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Rocky_1975 wrote: »
    but, I just want to tone

    you mean spot reduce?
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Rocky_1975 wrote: »
    but, I just want to tone

    you mean spot reduce?

    or get shredded?
  • pzarnosky
    pzarnosky Posts: 256 Member
    Can we think about this from another perspective? Think of all the different kinds of meat that we eat. Chicken has light and dark meat. The breast has little to no fat while the thigh/leg/wing is a more fatty cut of meat. Cows are similar.. When you buy steak, some cuts like ribeye have fat marbled throughout the steak, while sirloin is leaner. And then there’s pigs.. pork loin is a leaner cut overall… and then there’s bacon which is as far from lean as you can get. We’re not really that different. Some muscles tend to store fat more than others. We all know bodybuilders go through bulking and cutting phases. Bulking adds both muscle and fat, cutting is trying to maintain as much muscle as possible while dropping the fat. So when I hear people say “I want to gain lean muscle” I look at it as they want increase muscle while not increasing fat.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    pzarnosky wrote: »
    Can we think about this from another perspective? Think of all the different kinds of meat that we eat. Chicken has light and dark meat. The breast has little to no fat while the thigh/leg/wing is a more fatty cut of meat. Cows are similar.. When you buy steak, some cuts like ribeye have fat marbled throughout the steak, while sirloin is leaner. And then there’s pigs.. pork loin is a leaner cut overall… and then there’s bacon which is as far from lean as you can get. We’re not really that different. Some muscles tend to store fat more than others. We all know bodybuilders go through bulking and cutting phases. Bulking adds both muscle and fat, cutting is trying to maintain as much muscle as possible while dropping the fat. So when I hear people say “I want to gain lean muscle” I look at it as they want increase muscle while not increasing fat.


    interesting. I think the bold can only happen with supplements.
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    i herd dat if u get 20 meals a day and u eat 4000 protonz u get lean muscle??
  • DragonShoe_GCole
    DragonShoe_GCole Posts: 137 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure they hear lean mass and then start saying lean muscle.

    We know that lean mass is more than just muscle.

    Came in to post this
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,260 Member
    pzarnosky wrote: »
    Can we think about this from another perspective? Think of all the different kinds of meat that we eat. Chicken has light and dark meat. The breast has little to no fat while the thigh/leg/wing is a more fatty cut of meat. Cows are similar.. When you buy steak, some cuts like ribeye have fat marbled throughout the steak, while sirloin is leaner. And then there’s pigs.. pork loin is a leaner cut overall… and then there’s bacon which is as far from lean as you can get. We’re not really that different. Some muscles tend to store fat more than others. We all know bodybuilders go through bulking and cutting phases. Bulking adds both muscle and fat, cutting is trying to maintain as much muscle as possible while dropping the fat. So when I hear people say “I want to gain lean muscle” I look at it as they want increase muscle while not increasing fat.

    I think that's an interesting take on it.

    I do think it's a redundant phrase but when I hear it, I think that people mean that they want to build muscle but not have much visible muscle. So they are looking for some combo of muscle and bf that leaves them stronger but not "ripped" or "bulky" in their minds. Maybe a better way to put it is that they aren't going for major hypertrophic goals.
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I find it bizarre when guys use the term "lean muscle;" I've always thought of it as a stupid girl-focused fitness magazine term. A totally made-up marketing phrase, sort of like "toning." I figured it was one of those "the girls don't want to get all muscle-bound and bulky...let's call it 'lean muscle' so it's less scary" things.

    You know men using the words lean muscle?
    I was going to link to the threads, but that seems like a sh***y thing to do (since the posters didn't volunteer to be part of this thread). But yes, just in threads from yesterday and today, two different men said:
    depends how much you have to lose. if you try for 2lbs/week when you only have 20 lbs to go a larger % of your loss will come from lean muscle, not the fat you want to lose.
    To clear things up I am going on a deficit in terms of calories. My goal is to lose weight in a healthy way in which I am not losing lean muscle in the process.

    Now that I think about it, it probably is confusion between "lean muscle" and "lean body mass," at least in these cases.

  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    AliceDark wrote: »
    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    AliceDark wrote: »
    I find it bizarre when guys use the term "lean muscle;" I've always thought of it as a stupid girl-focused fitness magazine term. A totally made-up marketing phrase, sort of like "toning." I figured it was one of those "the girls don't want to get all muscle-bound and bulky...let's call it 'lean muscle' so it's less scary" things.

    You know men using the words lean muscle?
    I was going to link to the threads, but that seems like a sh***y thing to do (since the posters didn't volunteer to be part of this thread). But yes, just in threads from yesterday and today, two different men said:
    depends how much you have to lose. if you try for 2lbs/week when you only have 20 lbs to go a larger % of your loss will come from lean muscle, not the fat you want to lose.
    To clear things up I am going on a deficit in terms of calories. My goal is to lose weight in a healthy way in which I am not losing lean muscle in the process.

    Now that I think about it, it probably is confusion between "lean muscle" and "lean body mass," at least in these cases.

    send me the link in a PM.
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