Whole Foods Eating/Gluten Free

TenaciousTAZ
TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
edited November 7 in Getting Started
Hello,
I'm looking for people that are eating basically meats, nuts, seeds, veggies, fruits, coffee, and maybe a lil' dairy.(occasional beer or glass of wine)
I feel horrible when I eat bread, or processed foods so I'm either allergic to gluten or the preservatives and other chemicals they inject into food. I like to cook, but it's nice to find new recipes and find other people in the same boat. For example, I hate soda, but have made my own ginger ale using water, fresh ginger, lemon and honey which I add to mineral water. I guess you can say I experiment in the kitchen and when I like it, I call it cooking.
It's not hard to eat this way, but after awhile I get bored with the same recipes. Just wondering if anyone else needs support!
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  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    Hello,
    I'm looking for people that are eating basically meats, nuts, seeds, veggies, fruits, coffee, and maybe a lil' dairy.(occasional beer or glass of wine)
    I feel horrible when I eat bread, or processed foods so I'm either allergic to gluten or the preservatives and other chemicals they inject into food. I like to cook, but it's nice to find new recipes and find other people in the same boat. For example, I hate soda, but have made my own ginger ale using water, fresh ginger, lemon and honey which I add to mineral water. I guess you can say I experiment in the kitchen and when I like it, I call it cooking.
    It's not hard to eat this way, but after awhile I get bored with the same recipes. Just wondering if anyone else needs support!

    If you feel horrible when eating gluten then sorry but beer is out. Barley...
    There is a gluten free board on this forum, join up for more support & info. Some also have to be egg or dairy free as well - lots of ideas for recipes and where to find them on the Web.
  • LAT1963
    LAT1963 Posts: 1,375 Member
    Under the new healthcare law in the US, unless you are poor and in a state that did not take medicaid expansion, everyone should now have healthcare access. It used to be if I said 'see your doc' most people couldn't afford to. Now that has changed.

    There is a simple blood test for gluten sensitivity. You should get it. The long term consequences of celiac disease can be pretty serious--you need to know if you have the antibody problem or if you have one of the lesser types of gluten sensitivity (which used to be dismissed as psychological until a double-blind experiment in Australia recently confirmed they exist).

    If you have celiac disease then you need to avoid even hidden gluten in soy sauce etc. because failing to do so can increase your cancer risk (and other problems). If you have one of the other forms, then an occasional transgression is only likely to upset your stomach without doing lasting damage.

    The test will let you know how militant you have to be in avoiding gluten.
  • itsbasschick
    itsbasschick Posts: 1,584 Member
    to the OP - in what way do you feel bad after eating bread and other such things?

    LAT1963 - the new healthcare law is helpful, but i suspect a lot of people will find the costs challenging. my son pays over $300 a month for his insurance, has high copays ($50 for his primary, $75 for specialist) and isn't eligible for any assistance. he paid like $500 in copays his first month plus premium.
  • LAT1963
    LAT1963 Posts: 1,375 Member
    That's a lot if its just for him.

    List price of "silver" insurance for me in CA would have been around $400 a month, but I qualified for subsidy so pay less.

    But we need to stop our discussion. Thread drift/hijack.

    Back to gluten!
  • KarenB927
    KarenB927 Posts: 94 Member
    I just made my own gluten free teriyaki sauce because I wanted to make teriyaki hamburgers with pineapple, but all the teriyaki sauce at my local supermarket have wheat in them. The health food store didn't have teriyaki sauce, but they did have gluten free soy sauce. So I looked up a few recipes, improved a little and it came out great. My husband does not need to eat gluten free but will eat whatever I make anyway, and he loved them. I had mine on a gluten free hamburger bun, his was on a regular bun. When he finished his burger (he never had a teriyaki hamburger with pineapple on it before) he actually looked at his plate with this sad look and said "I wish I had another one."
  • myfitnesspale3
    myfitnesspale3 Posts: 276 Member
    If you feel horrible when eating gluten then sorry but beer is out. Barley...
    There is a gluten free board on this forum, join up for more support & info. Some also have to be egg or dairy free as well - lots of ideas for recipes and where to find them on the Web.

    She didn't specify what "horrible" meant, but the feeling could actually be a blood sugar crash, which would apply to all carbs, particularly sugars and grains but not just beer.

    Fruits also have a significantly unbalanced carb load.
  • sugar297
    sugar297 Posts: 106 Member
    You can add me as a supportive friend. I gave up most meat a month ago (but still eat a little chicken, turkey and fish)m I am enjoying learning new vegetarian recipes. I watched the DVD Forks over Knives and it convinced me. I also gave up most dairy except half in half in my much needed coffee. I do drink red wine on a few nights a week. I am feeling better since eating no gluten which has just been two weeks. I feel less bloated and my neck problem has improved. I also do not eat processed foods.
  • itsbasschick
    itsbasschick Posts: 1,584 Member
    that's what i'm wondering about. it could be high blood sugar, low blood sugar or even an allergy to something not wheat or gluten related.

    She didn't specify what "horrible" meant, but the feeling could actually be a blood sugar crash, which would apply to all carbs, particularly sugars and grains but not just beer.

    Fruits also have a significantly unbalanced carb load.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Hello,
    I'm looking for people that are eating basically meats, nuts, seeds, veggies, fruits, coffee, and maybe a lil' dairy.(occasional beer or glass of wine)
    I feel horrible when I eat bread, or processed foods so I'm either allergic to gluten or the preservatives and other chemicals they inject into food. I like to cook, but it's nice to find new recipes and find other people in the same boat. For example, I hate soda, but have made my own ginger ale using water, fresh ginger, lemon and honey which I add to mineral water. I guess you can say I experiment in the kitchen and when I like it, I call it cooking.
    It's not hard to eat this way, but after awhile I get bored with the same recipes. Just wondering if anyone else needs support!

    I don't class myself as gluten free or eating whole food, but the above is pretty much what I eat, except the occasional wine (it's never occasional).

    Feel free to add me as a friend if you like.
  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
    Thanks for all the replies....I believe my issue is with the FRANKEN-WHEAT that they call wheat, but it has be so overly processed it just makes my stomach cramp up. Same with beer....something like Guinness doesn't bother me much, but heavy wheat beers do. I don't drink too often, as it's not good for the liver wheat or no wheat.
    I really stay away from packaged, processed foods, and food dyes, and HFCS. It took me all day to find ONE pickle relish that didn't have food dye!!!
    It's sad that our food is not even food anymore. I try to buy organic as much as I can as even fruits and veggies are sprayed with crap. Do you guys know about budnip? This girls youtube video explains it best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98S24g7ZZmw
    I try to live by if you can pick it, or hunt it, I'll eat it. Coffee with cream is my go to junk but not the foo foo Starbucks drinks....just espresso and cream.
    I hate that Monsanto and the GMO foods is really making it hard to lead a healthy life!
  • Censor76
    Censor76 Posts: 48 Member
    Late to the thread but feel free to add me. Have been eating mostly (maybe 1x a week) for 3 years now. I'm pretty sure I'm just intolerant, was tested for Celiacs but made the mistake of not eating any gluten the week before my test.

    Anyway, good luck! It's not an easy road. I miss beer, a lot. Gluten free beer works but expensive and annoying to find!
  • nam985
    nam985 Posts: 140 Member
    I hate that Monsanto and the GMO foods is really making it hard to lead a healthy life!

    Actually it is more poor choices (choosing excess of kilocalorie intake, lack of kilocalorie expenditure) that make it hard to lead a healthy life.

    We (myself included) have all made not so great choices when it has come to our lifestyle, hence why the majority of us are here and are on a journey towards weight loss.
  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
    I'm living in an area right now (long 30 day vacay) and it is so easy to get things that are fresh, organic, and not loaded with junk. I just wish other areas had things that I need readily available.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Hello,
    I'm looking for people that are eating basically meats, nuts, seeds, veggies, fruits, coffee, and maybe a lil' dairy.(occasional beer or glass of wine)
    I feel horrible when I eat bread, or processed foods so I'm either allergic to gluten or the preservatives and other chemicals they inject into food. I like to cook, but it's nice to find new recipes and find other people in the same boat. For example, I hate soda, but have made my own ginger ale using water, fresh ginger, lemon and honey which I add to mineral water. I guess you can say I experiment in the kitchen and when I like it, I call it cooking.
    It's not hard to eat this way, but after awhile I get bored with the same recipes. Just wondering if anyone else needs support!

    Hi Tenacious,

    If you really believe you have an allergy to gluten, I suggest you speak with your doctor about . If you truly have a gluten allergy, you would not be able to eat anything with gluten, which would include beer (beer has malt and barely). Also, the preservatives that you find in the bread are no doubt in other foods you eat as well, so if you had an allergy or intolerance you would not be able to eat those foods either. You might want to talk to your doctor about those as well.

    That said, I do eat at all of those foods you mention, plus much more (I love dairy, but being lactose intolerant, I have to have everything dairy free). Have you heard of Yummely? It's a great database where you can find almost any type of recipe for the ingredients you want to use. I make my own homemade bread, too, just because I love to cook.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    that's what i'm wondering about. it could be high blood sugar, low blood sugar or even an allergy to something not wheat or gluten related.

    She didn't specify what "horrible" meant, but the feeling could actually be a blood sugar crash, which would apply to all carbs, particularly sugars and grains but not just beer.

    Fruits also have a significantly unbalanced carb load.

    The point is, it could be anything. Diagnosing oneself is never a good idea.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited July 2015
    I'm living in an area right now (long 30 day vacay) and it is so easy to get things that are fresh, organic, and not loaded with junk. I just wish other areas had things that I need readily available.

    I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean by "loaded with junk". Food is food.

    If you are trying to shed pounds, food type has nothing to do with it.
  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
    I don't care if a doc diagnoses me or not.....I don't feel good eating gluten, so I don't eat it. Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)
    I do what I can, and have created a lot of recipes that I feel good when I eat it. When I eat things with "junk" I'm lethargic and cranky. It is just a challenge, is all. I have been off gluten for the past 3 weeks and feel great. (Unlike the 2 months where I just didn't care) And the gluten could spike my blood sugar as well (hence lethargy)
    It is just hard to socialize when restaurants usually use the cheapest ingredients possible. Restaurants hit the pocketbook anyway, so it's not bad.
    Thanks for the tip on Yummely. It might give me more diversity in my meals!
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    LAT1963 wrote: »
    Under the new healthcare law in the US, unless you are poor and in a state that did not take medicaid expansion, everyone should now have healthcare access. It used to be if I said 'see your doc' most people couldn't afford to. Now that has changed.

    There is a simple blood test for gluten sensitivity. You should get it. The long term consequences of celiac disease can be pretty serious--you need to know if you have the antibody problem or if you have one of the lesser types of gluten sensitivity (which used to be dismissed as psychological until a double-blind experiment in Australia recently confirmed they exist).

    If you have celiac disease then you need to avoid even hidden gluten in soy sauce etc. because failing to do so can increase your cancer risk (and other problems). If you have one of the other forms, then an occasional transgression is only likely to upset your stomach without doing lasting damage.

    The test will let you know how militant you have to be in avoiding gluten.

    just wanted to say- I now have health insurance coverage for the first time in years. It feels good ya'll. :) my state did the medicaid expansion thing and I qualified. :)
  • gaelicstorm26
    gaelicstorm26 Posts: 589 Member
    Just be careful with your syllable rule. There are plenty of naturally occurring substances that have more than three syllables.

    If you feel good without gluten then I think you should go for it. I think other posters are just thinking that if you do have an inflammatory disease it would be good to know, and I do happen to agree with that! Next time you go to the doctor, mention in and I'm sure he/she will order the lab work.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I don't care if a doc diagnoses me or not.....I don't feel good eating gluten, so I don't eat it. Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)
    I do what I can, and have created a lot of recipes that I feel good when I eat it. When I eat things with "junk" I'm lethargic and cranky. It is just a challenge, is all. I have been off gluten for the past 3 weeks and feel great. (Unlike the 2 months where I just didn't care) And the gluten could spike my blood sugar as well (hence lethargy)
    It is just hard to socialize when restaurants usually use the cheapest ingredients possible. Restaurants hit the pocketbook anyway, so it's not bad.
    Thanks for the tip on Yummely. It might give me more diversity in my meals!

    Okay.......

    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    OP- in my opinion, natural, unnatural, gmo's, franken-wheat,fast food vs slow food, organics... etc are a red herring. The real problem is over consumption of calories. If you choose to avoid gluten, then feel free. But unless you have celiac disease, its not necessary or advisable.
  • vasumodi
    vasumodi Posts: 23 Member
    edited July 2015
    Yes! I am vegetarian and try to be gluten-free and dairy free. Gulten-free is fairly easy, dairy-free is not because I do like a good block of cheese and yogurt and I get paranoid about protein levels and gut bacteria. But I feel a lot better off dairy (esp since its really hard to find organic dairy around here) so I need to have that discipline again. I eat no added sugar - because I am a green tea drinker. I also make my own water kefir sometimes but I ruined my culture so I am recently out. Happy to share recipes but it may seem boring! I eat standard home-cooked Indian vegetarian food except it's all organic and brown rice and veggies, and no frying involved. I also eat lots of fruits.

    Indian lentils - 'dals' are useful and can be made to taste quite good. Ditto cooked garbanzo beans - can be flavoured any way you like. Rice and lentils together complement eah other and give you the full range of amino acids.

    I also soak mung beans and millets overnight, chuck the water, and then grind it down to a batter, and make crepes out of it. Quite good with a little cilantro-garlic chutney on the side.

    I don't think we need wheat and dairy, honestly!
  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
    I have been cooking some Indian food (thanks to my awesome roommate) and instead of rice, I use kelp noodles...so delicious! Your mung beans and millet crepes sounds interesting. I do miss pancakes, so I tend to buy gluten free pancake mix, (which I know is high in glycemic index, but I need a treat once in a while)
    I can survive w/o dairy, but the half and half in my coffee is hard to kick.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    I don't care if a doc diagnoses me or not.....I don't feel good eating gluten, so I don't eat it. Loaded with junk means processed foods with things that have more than 3 syllables, or things with food dye which is totally unnecessary. (like why does hot sauce or pickle relish really need food dye?)
    I do what I can, and have created a lot of recipes that I feel good when I eat it. When I eat things with "junk" I'm lethargic and cranky. It is just a challenge, is all. I have been off gluten for the past 3 weeks and feel great. (Unlike the 2 months where I just didn't care) And the gluten could spike my blood sugar as well (hence lethargy)
    It is just hard to socialize when restaurants usually use the cheapest ingredients possible. Restaurants hit the pocketbook anyway, so it's not bad.
    Thanks for the tip on Yummely. It might give me more diversity in my meals!

    So... do you avoid soy sauce? Chicken broth? Soup? Rice made in most restaurants? Shredded cheese? (even the parmesan cheese?) Sauces?
    Because all of those things have gluten in them. (as does pretty much anything with modified food starch in it)

    Speaking of three syllables, do you avoid any food with sodium bicarbonate in it?
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    to the OP - in what way do you feel bad after eating bread and other such things?

    LAT1963 - the new healthcare law is helpful, but i suspect a lot of people will find the costs challenging. my son pays over $300 a month for his insurance, has high copays ($50 for his primary, $75 for specialist) and isn't eligible for any assistance. he paid like $500 in copays his first month plus premium.

    Totally agree with this. Everyone can get an insurance plan now, but the cost is very high and some people still can't afford it.

  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member
    OP- in my opinion, natural, unnatural, gmo's, franken-wheat,fast food vs slow food, organics... etc are a red herring. The real problem is over consumption of calories. If you choose to avoid gluten, then feel free. But unless you have celiac disease, its not necessary or advisable.

    I think my body really has a hard time with processed carbs. Even when I eat more calories with whole feeds, I don't gain weight like processed carbs. I believe that has to do with blood sugar regulation. Whole foods with a balance of carb, protein, fat don't spike the blood sugar like a box of cereal! It could also be that whole foods fill me up more, whereas junk food just makes me hungry.
    Who knows? I listen to my body, and my body does well on whole foods, grass fed meat, and a few hiccups of processed stuff here and there. Most doctors are not very educated on nutrition. They can diagnose, but not solve the issue.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    OP- in my opinion, natural, unnatural, gmo's, franken-wheat,fast food vs slow food, organics... etc are a red herring. The real problem is over consumption of calories. If you choose to avoid gluten, then feel free. But unless you have celiac disease, its not necessary or advisable.

    I think my body really has a hard time with processed carbs. Even when I eat more calories with whole feeds, I don't gain weight like processed carbs. I believe that has to do with blood sugar regulation. Whole foods with a balance of carb, protein, fat don't spike the blood sugar like a box of cereal! It could also be that whole foods fill me up more, whereas junk food just makes me hungry.
    Who knows? I listen to my body, and my body does well on whole foods, grass fed meat, and a few hiccups of processed stuff here and there. Most doctors are not very educated on nutrition. They can diagnose, but not solve the issue.

    Gaining weight has nothing to do with what type of food you are eating, it has to do with how many calories you are eating. If you are gaining weight, you are eating too many calories, period. Are you weighing all of your food and logging your calories, keeping to a calorie deficit?
    First you thought gluten was your problem, now your problem is 'processed food'? None of that is your problem. You need to buy a food scale and weigh your food, and keep yourself below a calorie deficit. You'll lose weight.
  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member

    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly. [/quote]
    To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
    My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.

  • TenaciousTAZ
    TenaciousTAZ Posts: 135 Member

    [/quote]

    Gaining weight has nothing to do with what type of food you are eating, it has to do with how many calories you are eating. If you are gaining weight, you are eating too many calories, period. Are you weighing all of your food and logging your calories, keeping to a calorie deficit?
    First you thought gluten was your problem, now your problem is 'processed food'? None of that is your problem. You need to buy a food scale and weigh your food, and keep yourself below a calorie deficit. You'll lose weight.[/quote]

    Mindy, I know calories in, calories out...I lost 80 lbs. in 8 months, so I know it's a balance of what you eat and what you burn. I am just stating that gluten and processed foods do not do my body "good" and it is a challenge to find a diversity of recipes that support a whole foods approach.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    But, that's the very reason you should go to the doctor. Many people who are intolerant to gluten have celiac disease, which can cause death if not treated properly.
    To test for celiac disease you have to eat a gluten diet.....no can do....sorry but I don't trust doctors....they have my mom strung up on pills like she was a drug addict.
    My acupuncturist is also a homeopathic doc, so I consult her if needed. I appreciate your concern, just not really happy with our society over drugging it's patients.

    [/quote]

    You are wrong. To test for Celiac you don't eat a gluten diet. I have Celiac disease. There are genetic tests for it, as well as intestinal biopsies. And there are no pills for Celiac disease. Just a gluten-free diet, which I really don't think you understand. If you had Celiac disease, you wouldn't just 'not feel good' when you eat gluten. It makes you very ill, for days.
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