Do You Find This Fitness Rant Video Offensive ?
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Haha it seems that his message was okay and the "delivery method" seems to resonate more with the men commenters here than the women. I've noticed in general men are less emotional. My husband for example simply decides to lose ten pounds and suck it up and doesn't really say anything about it, he just does it. It's taken me awhile to not get upset and emotional just because my pants get a little tight, just suck it up and do the maintenance thing because no one wants to hear about it. lol0
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Not at all. There's nothing good about being fat, and if fat people are comfortable being fat, there's something wrong.
Hence why I'm un-fatting myself.0 -
californiagirl2012 wrote: »Haha it seems that his message was okay and the delivery message seems to resonate more with the men commenters here than the women.
Honestly its because he had a non sugarcoat way of it. Let me ask you a question. Nice job on your ticker. Did you accept yourself with what can happen in the future being as overweight as you were? Did you think about the future at the high of weight?
He said keep making these bad choices and you will eat yourself to a early grave. A lot of excess fat does have adverse effects in the long term.
IDK if it is still but heart disease has been the number one killer in the world. Being obese puts you in a higher risk to become a statistic.
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Eh, he is young. But I do agree with most points. Especially get your kids active and stop feeding them crap. I cringe when I see overweight kids. There is absolutely no reason for a child to be overweight. It's sad.0
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ivarunsoncoffee wrote: »Eh, he is young. But I do agree with most points. Especially get your kids active and stop feeding them crap. I cringe when I see overweight kids. There is absolutely no reason for a child to be overweight. It's sad.
Well in defense of my parents, it was not there fault. Ask these overweight kids how much they eat that there parents don't know about. I actually weigh less at age 27 than I did when I was 14.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »ivarunsoncoffee wrote: »Eh, he is young. But I do agree with most points. Especially get your kids active and stop feeding them crap. I cringe when I see overweight kids. There is absolutely no reason for a child to be overweight. It's sad.
Well in defense of my parents, it was not there fault. Ask these overweight kids how much they eat that there parents don't know about. I actually weigh less at age 27 than I did when I was 14.
I didn't mean teens, I meant young children under 10. The parents are in control of their diet.
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ivarunsoncoffee wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »ivarunsoncoffee wrote: »Eh, he is young. But I do agree with most points. Especially get your kids active and stop feeding them crap. I cringe when I see overweight kids. There is absolutely no reason for a child to be overweight. It's sad.
Well in defense of my parents, it was not there fault. Ask these overweight kids how much they eat that there parents don't know about. I actually weigh less at age 27 than I did when I was 14.
I didn't mean teens, I meant young children under 10. The parents are in control of their diet.
got it. Well I have seeing parents make kids finish there plate of fries when the child was full at restaurant. Me and the other server were like WTH. The parents were obese and the child was complaining that he was full. You are right looking at overweight kids under ten I wonder how likely the parents are also overweight or obese.
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I watched it. I cuss like a sailor, so the language didn't offend me, and I agree with his points. It was absolutely pure laziness that got me to my highest weight. It wasn't a lack of knowledge at all - I was an athlete my entire life, so I know how to workout in the weight room or anywhere else, and I know how I SHOULD eat, I just didn't want to do it because it seemed like it took too much effort. But it takes a hell of a lot less effort to eat right than it does to lug around a body that's 100 pounds overweight. I'm actually going to save this so I can come back and watch it when I need a swift kick in the *kitten*. Plus he's pretty easy on the eyes0
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californiagirl2012 wrote: »Haha it seems that his message was okay and the "delivery method" seems to resonate more with the men commenters here than the women. I've noticed in general men are less emotional. My husband for example simply decides to lose ten pounds and suck it up and doesn't really say anything about it, he just does it. It's taken me awhile to not get upset and emotional just because my pants get a little tight, just suck it up and do the maintenance thing because no one wants to hear about it. lol
My husband has been in the military for almost 17 years. There's nothing in his delivery method that I haven't heard before, and in much more creative ways. My turning it off has nothing to with being emotional and more to do with not wanting to waste my time listening to an individual who cannot seem to articulate himself in a way that doesn't include excessive and unnecessary profanity. I'm not bothered by profanity, but there is a time and a place for it. His use, coupled with what little I heard of his philosophy, brought to mind the phrase "sound and fury, signifying nothing."0 -
I think it's offensive. Being fat does not always mean you are lazy. Fat people still have jobs, families, children to take care of, houses to clean, laundry to do, dogs to walk, bills to pay, errands to run. Life is hectic. People get tired. They may lack discipline and willpower when comes to food choices but that doesn't make them lazy. I don't know if he made any other points that I would actually agree with. I stopped watching after hearing f***ING laziness for the umpteenth time.0
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Er... I couldn't tolerate his delivery style, so I didn't listen to it all, admittedly.
I reached my highest weight while I was going to school full-time (six classes a semester) and working full-time (38 hours a week only because my sup let me cut off a couple of hours for travel time). Could I have done things differently? Absolutely.
But I don't really consider that "laziness."
Now, I have been overweight my entire life, but once again, I don't really consider myself lazy. I've always been an active person to some degree (actually now - at my lightest - is the least active I've ever been) and I've never really enjoyed fast food. It's just that my mom makes amazing, but calorie-laden home-cooked food, I've had binging tendencies in my past, and I've always misjudged my portions.
So... maybe I'm an outlier, and maybe it's not fair to assume he's talking about anyone outside of the norm, but when I hear "fat people are lazy," my first reaction is always to argue that it's an unfair generalization.0 -
Not really offensive but I don't agree with the premise of judging people on their appearance. You have no idea what that person is going through in their life and honestly, eating healthy is not a priority for everyone. Not everyone eats healthy and works out to change their physical appearance either. He has some valid points about being active and eating right but it is kind of lost in the rant.0
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californiagirl2012 wrote: »Haha it seems that his message was okay and the "delivery method" seems to resonate more with the men commenters here than the women. I've noticed in general men are less emotional. My husband for example simply decides to lose ten pounds and suck it up and doesn't really say anything about it, he just does it. It's taken me awhile to not get upset and emotional just because my pants get a little tight, just suck it up and do the maintenance thing because no one wants to hear about it. lol
I am just super super quiet IRL and I don't like loud sounds, loud voices, overt enthusiasm, etc. Most of the time when I hear loud sounds I just completely zone out because I find them overwhelming. So his language and bluntness did not bother me. His volume and zeal did.0 -
I think James Fell of Body For Wife has a good response:
http://www.bodyforwife.com/john-burk-fitness-*kitten*-of-the-week/
Essentially, the rant her is just thinly veiled contempt for fat people. Sure, he's couched in language of false concern, but that's obviously not true. The simple fact is, scientific evidence shows shaming is more likely to make weight worse, not better. If John Burk's rant was really because he was interested in making anyone's life better, why is he doing something counterproductive? Why is he keeping that video on the internet, even as people are explaining the scientific evidence to him? People have already pointed out to him how he's wrong, but he's going to continue doing things his way.
The ultimate hypocrisy is, he says he doesn't listen to critics. Well, if he personally doesn't respond to even constructive criticism well, why does he have any expectation that other people will respond to harsh, nonconstructive criticism?0 -
Tinabob777 wrote: »I think when he says, "fat people are lazy" I don't take that as they don't do daily things or they are not active. I took it as they don't want to put in the effort to track food, plan meals, read nutrition facts. That's the category I fell into. While I was obese, I was still very active, but too "lazy" to watch my food/portions. Now, maybe he means lazy in the literal sense, and in that case, he'd be wrong.
Given the stigma that fat people have, I would put money on the fact that he was being literal.0 -
This guy is definitely not lazy when it comes to injecting steroids... Lol0
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I want to be offended, but deep down, I know he is basically right. Overall, I am not a lazy person, my job gets done, my house is clean, my bills are paid, my kids are well cared for (and so is my dog). But, in the area of food & exercise, obviously I am lacking or I would not be on MFP trying to lose 75lbs.
That being said, I am not particularly motivated or empowered by a person who is calling me repulsive, since the voices in my head do a pretty good job of that on their own.0 -
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I don't care for the language and I think he should put a shirt on, but there's some truth to what he is saying. But I think we also have to realize that there are a bunch of people who want to want to get healthy, and yet it seems out of their capability to do so.0
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