Saxenda!
aprilmburgroff82
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I work in an endocrine office and currently on Saxenda for weight loss. Looking for anyone else that has tried it, I am down 16 lbs, and feel great. I have a co-worker who is also on it and down 21 lbs. We have patients that are on it and losing weight and even getting off some of their diabetic medications. Thanks!
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Is this medicine taken for the life of the patient?0
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aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »I work in an endocrine office and currently on Saxenda for weight loss. Looking for anyone else that has tried it, I am down 16 lbs, and feel great. I have a co-worker who is also on it and down 21 lbs.
Do you still get to overeat on the drug?
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So, they're getting off insulin by substituting another daily injection? Seems like eating less would be a far better solution.0
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It's an injection that can be taken for however long. It is actually a sister medication of a diabetic medication called Victoza. Physicians saw a great decrease in patients weights who were pre-diabetic so they used the same molecule in Saxenda for weight loss. Unfort. just eating less is harder for some people than others. This medication slows the gastric emptying so that you feel full longer and don't want to eat as much. If you do over eat on the medication, almost like a gastric bypass or the sleeve, it will make you feel bad with nausea, diarrhea, etc. So its almost like the surgeries but without the horrible side effects. Again it works for some and we have seen great results in our office. We even have a few patients that are on insulin pumps that are losing weight for the first time in years and using less insulin.1
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I'm less worried about patients taking the drug and more worried about patients stopping the drug. Are you offering any therapies, nutritional classes, calorie counting etc so that they just don't go back to eating till they get sick once they are off the drug?2
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My dad may have been on this (he is late onset type 1). He switched to some new medication that was making him nauseous if he ate too much and he was losing weight. He has put back on every single pound since then. I don't know if he is still taking it or not.0
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They do go to see a dietician/nutritionist, which helps them with healthy lifestyle changes. This is only used as a stepping stone to move them in the right direction.
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I've never seen a type 1 put on victoza or saxenda. This is mainly for type 2 patients, pre-diabetics, and obesity.0
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aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »I've never seen a type 1 put on victoza or saxenda. This is mainly for type 2 patients, pre-diabetics, and obesity.
It probably was something else, either way, the symptoms were the same. Nausea if you ate too much.
Basically, these drugs don't work if the user doesn't recognize that they need to change their eating habits and actually follow through. I also know people who had the bands or bypass surgery who managed to put the weight back on.1 -
I guess my concern is that your posts address the medication and what IT does to help curb appetite and reduce intake. What is everyone (and you) on the medication doing to make a lifestyle change for when the medication is stopped? How will you portion control after a medication is no longer signaling you to be full? I know the history of the medication and I'm so glad it's working for people, but the posts focusing on medication alone concern me because like you said- it's not taken for life.
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I said you don't have to take it for life, but it can be taken for life. Myself i have made small changes with calorie/carb intake, increasing my exercise and addressing my eating habits. The stomach will shrink it self when you start cutting down on your intake. Its a natural mechanism. I plan on keeping up with the healthy choices when I decide if and when I stop the medication. The medication is actually something our bodies already produce.1
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aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »I said you don't have to take it for life, but it can be taken for life. Myself i have made small changes with calorie/carb intake, increasing my exercise and addressing my eating habits. The stomach will shrink it self when you start cutting down on your intake. Its a natural mechanism. I plan on keeping up with the healthy choices when I decide if and when I stop the medication. The medication is actually something our bodies already produce.
No, the stomach does not shrink when your intake decreases. Many people do become more aware of how full they actually are when they eat less for longer periods, but the actual stomach does not shrink in size.3 -
The stomach is an organ that can increase and decrease in size. Just like if someone was to get the sleeve or the gastric band, their stomach will shrink, but I have seen patients that have re-stretched their stomachs.1
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aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »The stomach is an organ that can increase and decrease in size. Just like if someone was to get the sleeve or the gastric band, their stomach will shrink, but I have seen patients that have re-stretched their stomachs.
If they get the sleeve or gastric band that device makes the stomach seem smaller, it doesn't actually shrink. The stomach does not shrink, how you perceive fullness changes after eating more or less for a length of time.0 -
well we can just agree to disagree. There are still lots of studies going on about this and different outtakes for both sides. Again, just looking for other people that are having the same results to talk with and share stories!1
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This reads more like an advertisement than anything else.2
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well its not, just trying to find more people to talk with.1
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aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »well its not, just trying to find more people to talk with.
Then, respectfully, you'll probably have more luck on a different site.
The whole purposes of this site is to help people learn how to eat appropriate amounts of nutrition, without the use of any drugs or gimmicks. So naturally, those are the kind of people that are going to populate the message board.0 -
Imma just gonna leave this here
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3317257/
My stomach can stretch, but that really doesn't matter.1 -
AGAIN! Didn't get on here to argue. Not everyone can just lose weight from diet and exercise alone, so the boost is needed from some people. I will just forget that I said anything and continue to talk to people who know and understand what I'm trying to do. Thanks anyway...so much for supportive site!1
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aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »Not everyone can just lose weight from diet and exercise alone, !
No..actually everyone CAN.
But not everyone is committed enough to make the sacrifices necessary to do so.2 -
aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »AGAIN! Didn't get on here to argue. Not everyone can just lose weight from diet and exercise alone, so the boost is needed from some people. I will just forget that I said anything and continue to talk to people who know and understand what I'm trying to do. Thanks anyway...so much for supportive site!
Unless people have a serious medical condition everyone can lose weight from diet and exercise alone. The few who can't have thyroid conditions or PCOS, and with proper care they can still lose weight from diet and exercise alone.
You keep getting upset when people correct your scientifically incorrect information.2 -
aprilmburgroff82 wrote: »AGAIN! Didn't get on here to argue. Not everyone can just lose weight from diet and exercise alone, so the boost is needed from some people. I will just forget that I said anything and continue to talk to people who know and understand what I'm trying to do. Thanks anyway...so much for supportive site!
We're supportive of people trying to loose weight. Not the people trying to sell them products.
Have a lovely afternoon.2 -
For me it did not work, plus I ended up with so many bruises from the injections, I looked awful; I have heard tho of it helping other people0
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not selling anything and you too!:)0
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Unless people have a serious medical condition everyone can lose weight from diet and exercise alone. The few who can't have thyroid conditions or PCOS, and with proper care they can still lose weight from diet and exercise alone.
At the risk of coming off like the "a 24 hour chicken broth cleanse cured my dog" person, even thyroid and PCOS do not suspend the basic formula. My wife has both conditions, and is losing weight following the CICO precepts, albeit at a lower rate than "normal". Her NEAT is lower, so the 1000 calorie deficit mfp maps for normal people seems to be around 600 for her. The way the endocrinologist explained it is that her metabolism runs like a hybrid, which lets her body do the same work with fewer calories.1 -
6502programmer wrote: »Unless people have a serious medical condition everyone can lose weight from diet and exercise alone. The few who can't have thyroid conditions or PCOS, and with proper care they can still lose weight from diet and exercise alone.
At the risk of coming off like the "a 24 hour chicken broth cleanse cured my dog" person, even thyroid and PCOS do not suspend the basic formula. My wife has both conditions, and is losing weight following the CICO precepts, albeit at a lower rate than "normal". Her NEAT is lower, so the 1000 calorie deficit mfp maps for normal people seems to be around 600 for her. The way the endocrinologist explained it is that her metabolism runs like a hybrid, which lets her body do the same work with fewer calories.
I understand this, which is why I said that diet and exercise still works for them. It's not as much of a straight forward equation for them, but diet and exercise still work.0 -
This reads more like an advertisement than anything else.
honestly it sounds like science fiction to me.
and as someone with IBS, i'm amazed that messing with normal digestive processes to create an aversive stimulus is considered ethical. what happens to people's guts when they go off the drug, longer-term?1 -
This reads more like an advertisement than anything else.
honestly it sounds like science fiction to me.
and as someone with IBS, i'm amazed that messing with normal digestive processes to create an aversive stimulus is considered ethical. what happens to people's guts when they go off the drug, longer-term?
To be honest, weight gain is your body working too good. Evolutionary speaking having fat rocks. Problem is that any medication to help is going to have to make your body less efficient.
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The thing about this drug is that, given the potential side-effects (which may be deadly), the common side effects, and the fact that you must reduce caloric intake anyway in order to lose weight on the drug, I just can't see why anyone would take it unless their health was already so bad due to obesity that they might soon die anyway. This is somewhat reflected in the fact that you have to either be obese, or technically overweight with some other related condition to get it (unless your doctor is mis-prescribing). Nonetheless, if you look at the risks of the drug itself, and consider that the only benefit is reduced appetite, I hope that anyone who agrees to try this first just tries snacking on all-bran and vegetables or something to stay full (for instance). If you can feel physically full, or even just "not hungry" and still keep eating for pleasure (which is not uncommon), then taking this drug is an awful idea for your health.0
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