Is eating at the "extreme weightloss" calorie target necessary to get a Victoria Secrets body ?
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Massages (I wish I can get one professionally, but I just get my bf to do it), applying heat to the area, dynamic stretches, and hot baths.Nope, I've never been tempted to eat that little. One, I love food so I'm not giving that up. Two, I look so much better when I'm fuller with more muscle/fat. I actually have curves now. Three, I like lifting heavy things. A low calorie diet is going to destroy my lifts.
Hearing a lot of good things about lifts Fuji. Will put some effort in with the new programme I'm building up.
With the lifting how do you slacken tight muscles in your calf, quad of hamstring other than nobbly foam roller, massage stick and stretches? (Happy to see YouTube vids of stretches).
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I would think that an extreme caloric deficit would be counterproductive--you would lose more lean mass, including muscle. If you're in a healthy weight range already, I would check out the recomp thread in the maintenance forum before I did 1200.
I just read that Adriana Lima credits capoeira and weights for her figure, but as many above have pointed out, she also has genetics on her side.
But if you're "ravenous," as you say, it may be that you're not spending your calories wisely. Get enough protein, fat, and fiber, and see if certain food choices make you hungrier.0 -
Want a dancer body? . Go dance.
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Have you read this by chance?
http://www.luckyshops.com/article/victorias-secret-angel-diet
Thanks. That was a useful article for me. Weights regieme and Pilates need to be brought back in. Last year my shape was stronger from Pilates and kettle bells. But dropped them for my swim & cycling. Interesting that there was no cardio...can only presume because they are in the sweet spot for body fat.0 -
barbecuesauce wrote: »I would think that an extreme caloric deficit would be counterproductive--you would lose more lean mass, including muscle. If you're in a healthy weight range already, I would check out the recomp thread in the maintenance forum before I did 1200.
I just read that Adriana Lima credits capoeira and weights for her figure, but as many above have pointed out, she also has genetics on her side.
But if you're "ravenous," as you say, it may be that you're not spending your calories wisely. Get enough protein, fat, and fiber, and see if certain food choices make you hungrier.
Thought about consulting a dietician - if you burn 6000 cals from one activity in a day there's only so much you can put back in
I'm wondering whether my bodies holding onto what I put in? Any articles out there that are useful. I'm aware of portion sizes and % of macro's but struggling to build that into a weekly meals with exciting flavours. This week and it was pretty much Thai stir fry, egg fried rice and chicken...in coconut oil. I try and cook everything from scratch and organic.
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Check out these ladies...they are from aBritish TV show and come from sports & lifting I think
http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/uk-gladiators/images/3513524/title/inferno-photo0 -
barbecuesauce wrote: »I would think that an extreme caloric deficit would be counterproductive--you would lose more lean mass, including muscle. If you're in a healthy weight range already, I would check out the recomp thread in the maintenance forum before I did 1200.
I just read that Adriana Lima credits capoeira and weights for her figure, but as many above have pointed out, she also has genetics on her side.
But if you're "ravenous," as you say, it may be that you're not spending your calories wisely. Get enough protein, fat, and fiber, and see if certain food choices make you hungrier.
Thought about consulting a dietician - if you burn 6000 cals from one activity in a day there's only so much you can put back in I'm wondering whether my bodies holding onto what I put in? Any articles out there that are useful. I'm aware of portion sizes and % of macro's but struggling to build that into a weekly meals with exciting flavours. This week and it was pretty much Thai stir fry, egg fried rice and chicken...in coconut oil. I try and cook everything from scratch and organic.
What are you doing that burns 6000 cals?0 -
Tavistock
It's cycling or running or both. I do need to get a cadence metre for my road bike to get a better idea of power output but estimate between 900-1000 tops and refuel then top up with snacks
http://www.bicycling.com/training/fitness/cycling-calories-burned-calculator0 -
Tavistock
It's cycling or running or both. I do need to get a cadence metre for my road bike to get a better idea of power output but estimate between 900-1000 tops and refuel then top up with snacks
http://www.bicycling.com/training/fitness/cycling-calories-burned-calculator
OMG, no, unless you're literally climbing Ventoux that calculator is more than doubling the actual burn.
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barbecuesauce wrote: »I would think that an extreme caloric deficit would be counterproductive--you would lose more lean mass, including muscle. If you're in a healthy weight range already, I would check out the recomp thread in the maintenance forum before I did 1200.
I just read that Adriana Lima credits capoeira and weights for her figure, but as many above have pointed out, she also has genetics on her side.
But if you're "ravenous," as you say, it may be that you're not spending your calories wisely. Get enough protein, fat, and fiber, and see if certain food choices make you hungrier.
Thought about consulting a dietician - if you burn 6000 cals from one activity in a day there's only so much you can put back in I'm wondering whether my bodies holding onto what I put in? Any articles out there that are useful. I'm aware of portion sizes and % of macro's but struggling to build that into a weekly meals with exciting flavours. This week and it was pretty much Thai stir fry, egg fried rice and chicken...in coconut oil. I try and cook everything from scratch and organic.
6000 calories? Wtf exercises are you doing? I think that may be a teeny bit of an exaggeration
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barbecuesauce wrote: »I would think that an extreme caloric deficit would be counterproductive--you would lose more lean mass, including muscle. If you're in a healthy weight range already, I would check out the recomp thread in the maintenance forum before I did 1200.
I just read that Adriana Lima credits capoeira and weights for her figure, but as many above have pointed out, she also has genetics on her side.
But if you're "ravenous," as you say, it may be that you're not spending your calories wisely. Get enough protein, fat, and fiber, and see if certain food choices make you hungrier.
Thought about consulting a dietician - if you burn 6000 cals from one activity in a day there's only so much you can put back in I'm wondering whether my bodies holding onto what I put in? Any articles out there that are useful. I'm aware of portion sizes and % of macro's but struggling to build that into a weekly meals with exciting flavours. This week and it was pretty much Thai stir fry, egg fried rice and chicken...in coconut oil. I try and cook everything from scratch and organic.
What are you doing to burn 6000 calories? That's, like, a triathlon number right there. Are you wearing an HRM all day?
Your body isn't "holding on to" what you put in unless you're eating too many calories. You can eat everything from scratch and organic, but if you're eating more than you burn, you're going to gain.
When I said "you're not spending your food calories wisely," I meant that you should start noticing whether certain food choices make you hungry. Carb-heavy lunches make me hungry in the afternoon and evening. If I go heavy on the protein early in the day, I'm fine. You may find certain foods more satiating than others.0 -
Tavistock
It's cycling or running or both. I do need to get a cadence metre for my road bike to get a better idea of power output but estimate between 900-1000 tops and refuel then top up with snacks
http://www.bicycling.com/training/fitness/cycling-calories-burned-calculator
Unless you are cycling like 8 hours per day, you are nowhere close the calories you think you are burning. If you do cycle several hours per day, then you have very conflicting goals - a cyclist's quads and a vs model's body do not really have much in common.0 -
Tavistock
It's cycling or running or both. I do need to get a cadence metre for my road bike to get a better idea of power output but estimate between 900-1000 tops and refuel then top up with snacks
http://www.bicycling.com/training/fitness/cycling-calories-burned-calculator
OMG, no, unless you're literally climbing Ventoux that calculator is more than doubling the actual burn.
Thanks - That's going to explain a few things!
So if I cycle 7 hours a day at minimum 18mph what does that realistically look like cal burn.
Running a half marathon at 8:15min miles what's that. (I do this during summer when there are events and race season is on).
A recommendation for a good calculator or formula would be appreciated. (no getting a heart rate monitor yet as there's some other kit needed at the moment). G
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You've logged 2426 calories cycling 198 minutes yesterday
You are kidding yourself, sorry
Take 50-75%0 -
May I ask what your goal is
Because wanting to be a triathlete and look like a Victoria's Secret Model seem rather mutually exclusive to me
Also your pic in the OP does not look like you have almost 50lbs to lose so at 5'11 what weight are you aspiring to0 -
Hi all,
I thought I'd ask and get your thoughts as its a reoccurring theme I seem to come back to when looking through forum posts. Have you personally had to eat at the extremities of your daily calorie intake to see results? I'm asking this in fitness not diet, so please take into consideration sporting requirements and I'll be assuming that you guys have a rounded diet, exercise balance
It's a tough one. I hope I'm not the only one who becomes tempted but then remembers that muscle loss is not cool.
Then in a year or so I can post asking for how to get a Victoria secret / High jumper / dancers body or may be I won't.
Looking forward to your thoughts.
G
Like this you mean?
Obviously a lot of this comes down to genetics (which Lokelani clearly has on her side.)
That said, you can first and foremost train to be good at your desired sport (which could include getting down to a decent racing weight with good weight management techniques) and end up looking amazing. It may not be the Victoria Secret model look (because of genetics) but it would be enough for people to say "damn, that girl looks fine..."0
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