does muscle = strength

fishshark
fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
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does gained muscle mass = strength. I always perceived strong men stronger then body builders, but never knew if there was any truth to that. Their body composition is very different but again, does that have anything to do with strength. I am only asking 1. because I do not want to think something that is untrue but two my goals are 90% that I want to be strong again and 10% vanity.

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  • shabaity
    shabaity Posts: 792 Member
    Google mark Henry and say John Cena both are strong they have to be but mark Henry isn't known as the world's strongest man for nothing. I think he might still be the record holder in a few lifts.
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    My understanding is depending on your work outs you can work on strength or bulk.

    Guessing both lead to increased strength but pound for pound they probably let you lift more if you go for strength.

    Or maybe what I heard was magic like a lot of weightloss and body building stuff I hear.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    Power lifters and people focused solely on strength do not need to be lean and in fact it gives them no advantage to be very lean. If someone wants to be lean, they need to cut with a calorie deficit, when you do that, strength gains plateau so no power lifter would want to do that. Bodybuilders may look like they have more muscle mass than power lifters but that's not really the case, you are just able to see the definition of their muscle mass as opposed to power lifters. Basic rule is when you increase muscle mass you almost always increase strength but it is possible to increase strength without increasing muscle mass. Hope that makes sense.
  • paulvmax
    paulvmax Posts: 19 Member
    Hello, let me shed some light on this, You have 4 different types of weight training.
    Bodybuilding which is all about the aesthetics BB will train from alot of different angles to achieve the shape they want meaning they don't train for pure strength the top guys are on sport enhancing drugs.

    Powerlifting which is not the fat men on the TV these guys are the 85kg guys that can lift a high amount of weight compare to there body weight but they tend to specialise on one lift bench, dead ect and only train to increase there 1RM.

    Strongmen these guys are the huge man mountains that pull cars and lift atlas stones ect these train pulary for strength the top guys are on sport enhancing drugs.

    Then there is natural strong men these tend to be not cut like a body builder but defined and extremely strong they do the same event as regular strong men but also have to train endurance and strength because of the no drugs policy.

    These guys are all extremely strong I am currently training in the natural strongman category.

    SO to answer your question yes muscle mass= strength !!!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,982 Member
    It's relative to training. There are lots of guys I know of who are much stronger than I am, but have less mass than I do. Even at my strongest, I never benched more than 245lbs and squatted more than 315lbs.

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  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    It's relative to training. There are lots of guys I know of who are much stronger than I am, but have less mass than I do. Even at my strongest, I never benched more than 245lbs and squatted more than 315lbs.

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    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
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    this is what I figured... what is the difference in training that makes it so? I am only asking because over the years going from an athlete to basically a blob just existing i have no strength.. and well... lost muscle mass too. I don't really care about any muscle gains but I DO want to gain strength.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    fishshark wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    It's relative to training. There are lots of guys I know of who are much stronger than I am, but have less mass than I do. Even at my strongest, I never benched more than 245lbs and squatted more than 315lbs.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    9285851.png

    this is what I figured... what is the difference in training that makes it so? I am only asking because over the years going from an athlete to basically a blob just existing i have no strength.. and well... lost muscle mass too. I don't really care about any muscle gains but I DO want to gain strength.

    Its more of ones diet thing more than anything else. As you know though you will get stronger as you build more muscle. You can get stronger at maintenance calories and even a calorie deficit.

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