Alright people who supposedly get full on 1200, how do you do it?
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 5'1" with hypothyroidism too. It's not an excuse. Properly medicated and treated, it's a non-issue, frankly. If it's causing problems, you're not being properly treated for it. I'll be 53 in one week. The numbers don't need to take your hypothyroidism into consideration once you're medicated properly. You'll be just like everyone else in that case.
I agree with you that hypothyroidism shouldn't be an issue when it's properly medicated. But I'm recently diagnosed and so my doc and I are still working on getting me to that point. So for me right now it IS an issue.
every time I hear someone boast of their magnificent doctor medicating their thyroid issues so marvelously, I have to restrain the urge to ask , who they are, what the doctor's number is and if they take insurance. Because from experience there are WAY more craptastic doctors not even attempting to actually properly treat thyroid patients than there are good ones.
* hashimoto's patient with grave's antibodies too.* doctors aren't sure what to do with my labs
Yep. I've been with my doctor for about ten years and for the most part I've liked him and had confidence in him. But he's losing me on thyroid treatment. First I got a lecture on weight gain with insinuations that I must be too stupid to know what constitutes a healthy diet or in denial about what I was eating. That despite ten years of a steady, relatively healthy weight. Only after the lecture did he bother to look at my blood work. No apology or sign of contrition. He hasn't bothered to test me for Hashi's. And I have a family history of other auto immune illnesses, so that seems rather important to me. He's bringing me in for regular blood work but hasn't asked how I'm feeling. And he hasn't even entered the hypothyroidism diagnosis in my medical record. It's becoming obvious to me that he has some type of inherent bias about treating hypothyroidism. We're sorting out some liver issues and I'm staying with him for that. Once that's figured out I will very likely be finding a new doctor.
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »Danilynn1975 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 5'1" with hypothyroidism too. It's not an excuse. Properly medicated and treated, it's a non-issue, frankly. If it's causing problems, you're not being properly treated for it. I'll be 53 in one week. The numbers don't need to take your hypothyroidism into consideration once you're medicated properly. You'll be just like everyone else in that case.
I agree with you that hypothyroidism shouldn't be an issue when it's properly medicated. But I'm recently diagnosed and so my doc and I are still working on getting me to that point. So for me right now it IS an issue.
every time I hear someone boast of their magnificent doctor medicating their thyroid issues so marvelously, I have to restrain the urge to ask , who they are, what the doctor's number is and if they take insurance. Because from experience there are WAY more craptastic doctors not even attempting to actually properly treat thyroid patients than there are good ones.
* hashimoto's patient with grave's antibodies too.* doctors aren't sure what to do with my labs
Boasting?
Hardly. I wish you would stop projecting your awful experience all over the boards whenever thyroid issues come up.
Patients need to be proactive in their own medical care, granted, but resenting other people for having access to good medical care is beyond the pale.
You did what I've done. I've been my own advocate in insisting that my symptoms get treated. I'm not boasting. I'm a patient who got results from being proactive.
BTW? Having antibodies doesn't mean jack until the disease becomes active. I carry Crohn's anti-bodies. I don't have Crohn's disease.
Your doctors should be monitoring your full thyroid panel, that's all. Educate yourself on thyroid function, that's all. As long as your thyroid is functioning, it doesn't matter what antibodies you have. It's the effect they are having that matters.
When patients with both active Graves and Hashi's hit critical mass, the best method of treatment is gland removal and thyroid hormone replacement. You're obviously not at that point yet.
I could post my entire medical record and you'd still disagree with me, it's pointless. just suffice it to say I live in my body and not everyone has a great experience with finding a doctor or receiving treatment.
So who is your doctor? I'm willing to empty my 401K to travel to find this holy grail of doctors that may decide to do something. I could use a vacation.
My experience is not so out of the ordinary. If you read some of the patient forums from healthboards and Yahoo patient groups on thyroid they are way more folks with substandard care than there are ones with good care.
Just a sampling of patients that are still sick. There are thousands of more threads on the ill treatment they are getting.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/thyroid-disorders/530445-anyone-have-nausea-hypothyroidism.html
Is this some reason to resent me, though? And accuse me of boasting?
The fact is that you're bitter about your condition.
You have NO clue about my overall medical history and the decades I went untreated for other problems I have because of bad doctors. I could fill a book.
I'll not fill the boards with resentment against other people for having had better care or stop providing hope to others that good doctors are out there if you keep looking... because I'm not bitter. Life goes on.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on with your life. A bum thyroid is not the end of the world.
What do you need done? What are your symptoms? You can go on and on and on and on about having the antibodies and a nodule all day, but they mean nothing. It's how they impact your health that matters when it comes to treatment.
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 5'1" with hypothyroidism too. It's not an excuse. Properly medicated and treated, it's a non-issue, frankly. If it's causing problems, you're not being properly treated for it. I'll be 53 in one week. The numbers don't need to take your hypothyroidism into consideration once you're medicated properly. You'll be just like everyone else in that case.
I agree with you that hypothyroidism shouldn't be an issue when it's properly medicated. But I'm recently diagnosed and so my doc and I are still working on getting me to that point. So for me right now it IS an issue.
every time I hear someone boast of their magnificent doctor medicating their thyroid issues so marvelously, I have to restrain the urge to ask , who they are, what the doctor's number is and if they take insurance. Because from experience there are WAY more craptastic doctors not even attempting to actually properly treat thyroid patients than there are good ones.
* hashimoto's patient with grave's antibodies too.* doctors aren't sure what to do with my labs
Yep. I've been with my doctor for about ten years and for the most part I've liked him and had confidence in him. But he's losing me on thyroid treatment. First I got a lecture on weight gain with insinuations that I must be too stupid to know what constitutes a healthy diet or in denial about what I was eating. That despite ten years of a steady, relatively healthy weight. Only after the lecture did he bother to look at my blood work. No apology or sign of contrition. He hasn't bothered to test me for Hashi's. And I have a family history of other auto immune illnesses, so that seems rather important to me. He's bringing me in for regular blood work but hasn't asked how I'm feeling. And he hasn't even entered the hypothyroidism diagnosis in my medical record. It's becoming obvious to me that he has some type of inherent bias about treating hypothyroidism. We're sorting out some liver issues and I'm staying with him for that. Once that's figured out I will very likely be finding a new doctor.
Why not ask for a referral to an endocrinologist if you're so concerned?
How much weight have you put on? Thyroid problems will only make you gain so much due to decreased metabolism, and honestly, if you're testing at the margins of the ranges, your metabolism isn't that slowed down. You need to be eating too much and moving less. After ten years, aging will do that to you.
I'm sorry to be hard-nosed about this, but I've been through the excuses myself with my thyroid when it tanked out on me and stopped responding to medication. It took nine months to get it back under control. During that time, I put on 35 pounds. During that time, I blamed my thyroid. My doctor kept telling me it wouldn't be responsible for that much weight gain.
She was right.
In retrospect? I was going through a stressful period in my life and I was eating and eating and eating. I was depressed, I was fatigued, and I was sitting around all day.
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Please ladies, this is a good thread that I am about to contribute to, you are going to get it shut down.0
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Different people have different problems. I don't pretend that everyone else is just like me. If I gave the impression - at any time - that I was suggesting that everyone would be as lucky as I've been or that I'm bragging that I found a good doctor, I apologize. It was never my intent.
If your doctor sucks, get thee to a new one posthaste. A doctor who doesn't send a person with a thyroid issue to an endo is a bad doctor. That's a big tipoff right there. Good primaries know enough to know their limitations and will want you in the hands of a specialist.
I know what it's like to suffer through dealing with a bad...or lazy, which is really the same thing...doctor and am never trying to belittle anyone in that position.0 -
I will be 60 in a couple of months, am 5'6.5, currently 186 pounds. I started at 230, started MFP at 209, have lost 44 pounds total, 23 since joining MFP, and I have logged consistently for 121 days. I stopped measuring my food a couple of months ago thanks to all the good advice on this forum, and weigh almost everything except the foods I previously weighed often enough to know that they are either exactly the same as the package says or only off by a gram or two. I count every single thing I eat or drink, including Altoids and Tums. I omit nothing. If it says "one tablespoon" or "one serving" on my menu, those items are actually weighed - I just used items in the database that aren't broken down into ounces or grams.
I input 2 pounds weight loss a week into MFP, but after you hit "Update," the screen which says "Your Suggested Fitness and Nutrition Goals" lists my "Projected Weight Loss" at 1.2 pounds a week. You should all check that to see what yours says.
I almost never hit 1200, and rarely go over 1100. I have discussed this with my doctor, and at my age and weight he has no problem with me eating below 1200. I NEVER go under 1000. I am almost always somewhere near 1050.
A 23-pound weight loss in 120 days (I haven't weighed myself today) works out to 5.75 pounds a month, so I am losing about at the rate MFP suggests, and at what is considered a healthy rate. I have sporadically added in some exercise in the last month and a half, and have started walking in the mornings for about 30 minutes. I started eating back half of my exercise calories, but feel like that may be slowing my weight loss, so have decided to stop adding back for a while to see what happens.
I am never starving. I am rarely hungry. If I am hungry, it is just before meal time, when I should be hungry. I would say, as many others above have said, that I am sated. I am not full, as in uncomfortably full, I am just no longer hungry. As far as I know, this should be my goal. Because I am sated, my food cravings are not nearly as strong. I still get cravings for lots of things, but I am determined to lose this weight, and, for me personally, it is just not worth it to eat ice cream or candy and blow my progress. I still have ice cream, or a beer, but I never have it if I haven't planned for it. I also have pizza, a donut once a week or so, and I go out for dinner, so I don't really feel deprived. I am a person who actually likes eating the same things pretty much every day, so my diet isn't exactly varied, but it has become as important to me now to meet my macros as it is to lose weight, so I am including things I wasn't eating before, like avocados, so that I am eating as healthy as possible with such limited caloric intake. I have severe IBS and I can't eat any leafy greens (except creamed spinach seems OK) or cruciferous vegetables, or most vegetables actually, so I can't fill up on them, yet I feel completely satisfied.
Here is an example of a usual day's menu:
Here's one of my sandwiches (on sourdough):
This has become a way of life for me, and I really don't feel deprived. I have to plan my menu carefully, and it leaves little room for error, but if I go over, I go over and don't freak out, I just get right back to it.
So there you have it - that's how I do it.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »Why not ask for a referral to an endocrinologist if you're so concerned?
How much weight have you put on? Thyroid problems will only make you gain so much due to decreased metabolism, and honestly, if you're testing at the margins of the ranges, your metabolism isn't that slowed down. You need to be eating too much and moving less. After ten years, aging will do that to you.
I'm sorry to be hard-nosed about this, but I've been through the excuses myself with my thyroid when it tanked out on me and stopped responding to medication. It took nine months to get it back under control. During that time, I put on 35 pounds. During that time, I blamed my thyroid. My doctor kept telling me it wouldn't be responsible for that much weight gain.
She was right.
In retrospect? I was going through a stressful period in my life and I was eating and eating and eating. I was depressed, I was fatigued, and I was sitting around all day.
I have not yet asked for a referral to an endocrinologist because (as I clearly explained in my previous post) I'm also having some liver issues. I know I could certainly go to two doctors at once, but right now that wouldn't be very convenient. I should know within a couple of weeks whether my liver issues have cleared up or not, and at that point I will make the decision on whether or not to pursue finding another doctor.
As far as weight gain -- no, I didn't gain much at all. Less than 10 pounds. But as I'm very short that's far from an insignificant amount. IIRC the word my lovely doctor used to describe that gain for me was "massive."
I am much more than at the "margins" of the ranges.
It's obvious from your post that most of your weight issue probably was due to the amount you were eating, and to not exercising. Your experience is not universally shared by ALL who have thyroid issues. Some of us really did gain despite eating reasonable portions of healthy food and and exercising. Just as an FYI -- I'm not a newbie at the weight loss game. Over 25 years ago I successfully lost 64 pounds and kept it off pretty much until my thyroid went wonky. I very much do know what I'm talking about.
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »
So who is your doctor? I'm willing to empty my 401K to travel to find this holy grail of doctors that may decide to do something. I could use a vacation.
This is very exciting! Were some PM's at least sent with doctors names?? :bigsmile:
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Lots of water and protein! It is obtainable!0
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Feel free to look at my diary! It's more than enough food for me 0
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 5'1" with hypothyroidism too. It's not an excuse. Properly medicated and treated, it's a non-issue, frankly. If it's causing problems, you're not being properly treated for it. I'll be 53 in one week. The numbers don't need to take your hypothyroidism into consideration once you're medicated properly. You'll be just like everyone else in that case.
I agree with you that hypothyroidism shouldn't be an issue when it's properly medicated. But I'm recently diagnosed and so my doc and I are still working on getting me to that point. So for me right now it IS an issue.
every time I hear someone boast of their magnificent doctor medicating their thyroid issues so marvelously, I have to restrain the urge to ask , who they are, what the doctor's number is and if they take insurance. Because from experience there are WAY more craptastic doctors not even attempting to actually properly treat thyroid patients than there are good ones.
* hashimoto's patient with grave's antibodies too.* doctors aren't sure what to do with my labs
I admit I am shocked. Where do you live? Don't you have access to an endocrinologist? I am in Europe, Hashimoto's sounds pretty trivial to treat. Perhaps it has to do with medical procedures where you are? Where I live it would be for example unthinkable (and impossible) for a physician to attempt treating a thyroid issue or prescribing meds for this, you are sent directly to the endocrinologist from the start. I was diagnosed 22 years ago, and suffer from a few other hormonal disorders too. I have been medicated with few adjustments since, never really had any complaints, whenever something felt off it was addressed within a few weeks. By different drs, most in public hospitals, where in general you do nto get that amazing personalised care here. I have heard similar stories from every other patient I have ever met, of things going pretty much smoothly, and it is a pretty common illness, so I know several people suffering from Hashimoto's or Graves.0 -
I definitely wouldn't say I feel 'full' on 1200 calories a day, but it's doable. I try to drink lots and especially think drinking sparkling water helps a bit with ththe fullness feeling. Other than that, just spreading out what you eat also helps, so when you feel peckish eat an apple or a few almonds. Do think carefully about what your choices are though, because some foods definitely aren't filling and then are just wasted calories. Sometimes I eat two bananas in a day just because i find them reasonably filling and it's easy to have one with me in my bag most of the time.0
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Drink a lot of water to helps me .. I eat loads of veg as I am vegetarian and I've not had any problems being hungry 0
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I'm maintaining now but I went a whole year on 1200. Fiber, water, and protein keep you full for longer. Sugar, starch, and fat don't keep you full as long. nutritiondata.self.com has "fullness ratings" for all their foods. Also the volumetrics diet can tell you about this way of eating.
Fat doesn't keep you full but it gives things a good mouthfeel, which can trick people into thinking it's satiating. My diet isn't particularly high-protein either; I mostly eat high-fiber items. Half my diet when I was eating 1200 was fruits and vegetables, mostly raw, not including juice, jam, and potatoes.
I wasn't hungry but I wasn't really full either. Though there were some days where I was looking for things to eat at 10pm to make it to 1200.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »Why not ask for a referral to an endocrinologist if you're so concerned?
How much weight have you put on? Thyroid problems will only make you gain so much due to decreased metabolism, and honestly, if you're testing at the margins of the ranges, your metabolism isn't that slowed down. You need to be eating too much and moving less. After ten years, aging will do that to you.
I'm sorry to be hard-nosed about this, but I've been through the excuses myself with my thyroid when it tanked out on me and stopped responding to medication. It took nine months to get it back under control. During that time, I put on 35 pounds. During that time, I blamed my thyroid. My doctor kept telling me it wouldn't be responsible for that much weight gain.
She was right.
In retrospect? I was going through a stressful period in my life and I was eating and eating and eating. I was depressed, I was fatigued, and I was sitting around all day.
I have not yet asked for a referral to an endocrinologist because (as I clearly explained in my previous post) I'm also having some liver issues. I know I could certainly go to two doctors at once, but right now that wouldn't be very convenient. I should know within a couple of weeks whether my liver issues have cleared up or not, and at that point I will make the decision on whether or not to pursue finding another doctor.
As far as weight gain -- no, I didn't gain much at all. Less than 10 pounds. But as I'm very short that's far from an insignificant amount. IIRC the word my lovely doctor used to describe that gain for me was "massive."
I am much more than at the "margins" of the ranges.
It's obvious from your post that most of your weight issue probably was due to the amount you were eating, and to not exercising. Your experience is not universally shared by ALL who have thyroid issues. Some of us really did gain despite eating reasonable portions of healthy food and and exercising. Just as an FYI -- I'm not a newbie at the weight loss game. Over 25 years ago I successfully lost 64 pounds and kept it off pretty much until my thyroid went wonky. I very much do know what I'm talking about.
I am no newbie to any of this either, for the record.
I am concerned for you now, though if you're not just at the margins. Then again, if your labs are testing within normal range and the doctor isn't treating symptoms that persist, I can't imagine how you don't qualify as being at the margins. Certainly he wouldn't leave you under-medicated with out of normal lab ranges?
However, you're obviously not concerned enough by the matter to deal with inconvenience, so complain away here since that's all you can do in the meantime.
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and for the detox aspect..there is no detox or resetting your body. Really people stay on top here
its about a 1200 diet
Respectfully, I beg to differ. A hard reset can help get some people get back on track after an indulgence. I'm not a fan of calling it a "detox," as that's nowhere near the proper term. That's why I refer to it as a "reset." It's a mechanism to get back on track. Is it the only one? No, but it is a useful tool.
A reset is a mechanism to get back on track to.......?
What's the difference between a hard reset, soft reset, and somewhere in the middle reset?
Okay, joking aside now.
I suspect you indeed are talking about detox, which your body never needs because it naturally detoxes itself through your pee and poop.
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On 1200 calories, no I dont feel totally full. I feel half full and satisfied which is enough for me. I practice mindful eating. It really does work and I might feel a little peckish at times but I never feel hungry 0
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Danilynn1975 wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »I'm 5'1" with hypothyroidism too. It's not an excuse. Properly medicated and treated, it's a non-issue, frankly. If it's causing problems, you're not being properly treated for it. I'll be 53 in one week. The numbers don't need to take your hypothyroidism into consideration once you're medicated properly. You'll be just like everyone else in that case.
I agree with you that hypothyroidism shouldn't be an issue when it's properly medicated. But I'm recently diagnosed and so my doc and I are still working on getting me to that point. So for me right now it IS an issue.
every time I hear someone boast of their magnificent doctor medicating their thyroid issues so marvelously, I have to restrain the urge to ask , who they are, what the doctor's number is and if they take insurance. Because from experience there are WAY more craptastic doctors not even attempting to actually properly treat thyroid patients than there are good ones.
* hashimoto's patient with grave's antibodies too.* doctors aren't sure what to do with my labs
I admit I am shocked. Where do you live? Don't you have access to an endocrinologist? I am in Europe, Hashimoto's sounds pretty trivial to treat. Perhaps it has to do with medical procedures where you are? Where I live it would be for example unthinkable (and impossible) for a physician to attempt treating a thyroid issue or prescribing meds for this, you are sent directly to the endocrinologist from the start. I was diagnosed 22 years ago, and suffer from a few other hormonal disorders too. I have been medicated with few adjustments since, never really had any complaints, whenever something felt off it was addressed within a few weeks. By different drs, most in public hospitals, where in general you do nto get that amazing personalised care here. I have heard similar stories from every other patient I have ever met, of things going pretty much smoothly, and it is a pretty common illness, so I know several people suffering from Hashimoto's or Graves.
Very small town in the deep south.
This year from March forward I have been taken on and off meds. The levels either shoot up or drop down to far. Currently off meds. Nect scheduled trip to New Orleans for a doctor appointment is in early September for more blood work. Have been every 5 weeks since late March after an overnight stay in the hospital with a sky high resting heart rate, they wrre clear was from my thyroid swinging to hard to hyper.
New Orleans is 3 hours one way drive. At least I get a good lunch after.
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A reset is a mechanism to get back on track to.......?
What's the difference between a hard reset, soft reset, and somewhere in the middle reset?
Okay, joking aside now.
I suspect you indeed are talking about detox, which your body never needs because it naturally detoxes itself through your pee and poop.
@SLLRunner ... back on track to the eating required by my doctor. I have issues with moderation of some foods. If I have those trigger foods, it's a struggle to get back. I do a hard reset and boom, I'm there. No muss, no fuss, no cravings, no missing those foods for days... one day and I'm back to where I need to be.
For me, a hard reset removes every trace of the trigger foods. A soft reset means I just trim back. Last weekend, I tried a soft reset Sunday and craved. I did a hard reset Monday and I was done and not one thought of foods I'm simply not allowed to have on any regular basis. Saturday, as part of celebrating my birthday, was filled with treats I want all the time. That can't happen, so I used a reset to stop the behavior.
It's not a detox; it's a... mental game. It's like wearing lucky socks to a ballgame or a lucky shirt on a date or touching the same spot on the wall before speaking in front of a crowd. A detox indicates some sort of physical requirement to rid the body of something, which isn't what I'm doing or intending. For me, a reset is mental.
While I understand there are loads of people who have eating disorders and have similar behaviors, this is a technique taught to me by a psychiatrist specializing in bariatric patients and reinforced by my bariatric doctor and nutritionist. It's a simple behavior modification technique.0 -
purplishblue wrote: »This isn't a thread bashing you, it's me asking how do you manage it?? I get super hungry on that little a day, however I'm wanting to try it again. What are your typical meals? Do you ever feel famished?
I am 5'11 211 lbs and I eat 1200 -1400 Max calories a day. I eat every two hours things High in protein. I've lost almost 20 lbs in 30 days.0 -
purplishblue wrote: »This isn't a thread bashing you, it's me asking how do you manage it?? I get super hungry on that little a day, however I'm wanting to try it again. What are your typical meals? Do you ever feel famished?
Try sugar free chewing gum. Sometimes just chewing gum can ease hunger.0 -
And that is most certainly not enough cals for you. Why the extreme approach?purplishblue wrote: »This isn't a thread bashing you, it's me asking how do you manage it?? I get super hungry on that little a day, however I'm wanting to try it again. What are your typical meals? Do you ever feel famished?
I am 5'11 211 lbs and I eat 1200 -1400 Max calories a day. I eat every two hours things High in protein. I've lost almost 20 lbs in 30 days.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »arditarose wrote: »I'm at 1300 today. I would have been full on 1200, I used at least 100 calories of PB2 in my protein fluff which doesn't need it.
Oh, and that's how I get full. High volume: veg, protein, and that protein fluff
PB2 in protein fluff? I'm interested in this concoction. What is it? How do you make it?
I make my protein fluff with 20 grams of casein protein powder (cannot be whey or any other), 6 grams of xanthun gum, 10 0z of any liquid (milk, almond milk, diet soda, I use water). From there you can go crazy. You can add whatever fruit you want, I used 100 grams of banana. You can literally add whatever you want to make it as low calorie or as high calorie as needed. One night I sprinkled two reeses cups on top. Now I use a good 30 grams of PB2, some cocoa powder, maybe a little sweetener. This fluff becomes so big it fills an entire mixing bowl.
Here's one that @vismal makes. I tried it with diet root beer and didn't like it though. I prefer water and probably some sort of milk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR3Z028prSU 0 -
I eat 1250/day. Protein, protein, protein! I have 3 meals and 2 snacks per day. The only time I feel hungry is really close to meal time. I also drink 8-12 glasses of water.0
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I have been on a 1200 cal diet for a few days now and did well until last night when I binge snacked because I was so hungry! I also worked out for the first time yesterday since having my baby, so that might account for the increased hunger because I've been doing okay on the 1200 diet. Lots of water and lots of protein at dinner has been making me feel full, as well as having a healthy 100 calorie snack between each 'main' meal.0
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A reset is a mechanism to get back on track to.......?
What's the difference between a hard reset, soft reset, and somewhere in the middle reset?
Okay, joking aside now.
I suspect you indeed are talking about detox, which your body never needs because it naturally detoxes itself through your pee and poop.
@SLLRunner ... back on track to the eating required by my doctor. I have issues with moderation of some foods. If I have those trigger foods, it's a struggle to get back. I do a hard reset and boom, I'm there. No muss, no fuss, no cravings, no missing those foods for days... one day and I'm back to where I need to be.
For me, a hard reset removes every trace of the trigger foods. A soft reset means I just trim back. Last weekend, I tried a soft reset Sunday and craved. I did a hard reset Monday and I was done and not one thought of foods I'm simply not allowed to have on any regular basis. Saturday, as part of celebrating my birthday, was filled with treats I want all the time. That can't happen, so I used a reset to stop the behavior.
It's not a detox; it's a... mental game. It's like wearing lucky socks to a ballgame or a lucky shirt on a date or touching the same spot on the wall before speaking in front of a crowd. A detox indicates some sort of physical requirement to rid the body of something, which isn't what I'm doing or intending. For me, a reset is mental.
While I understand there are loads of people who have eating disorders and have similar behaviors, this is a technique taught to me by a psychiatrist specializing in bariatric patients and reinforced by my bariatric doctor and nutritionist. It's a simple behavior modification technique.
This, I use a similar technique myself to stop myself when I feel I am slipping up. I totally get what you're saying, it pretty much works like an emergency stop for me, and I am back on track. It has worked for my 19kg or 42lbs weightloss so far 0 -
purplishblue wrote: »This isn't a thread bashing you, it's me asking how do you manage it?? I get super hungry on that little a day, however I'm wanting to try it again. What are your typical meals? Do you ever feel famished?
I'm on a 1200 calorie diet, but as another poster commented, it does fluctuate depending upon my level of activity (inactivity). In active days I stay within 1200. Am I hungry? Physically, no...mentally completely unsatisfied. But, on active days where I burn 200-300 calories extra, and my intake increases 200-300 calories more I actually am physically and mentally satisfied.
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I drink lots of water and chew gum whenever i get the urge to grab more -- which helps. I also try to eat a larger amount of low calorie foods such as strawberries, lettuse etc because you get to eat a greater volume to fill you up. More bang for you buck I guess. I do agree some days are much more difficult then others.0
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arditarose wrote: »PeachyCarol wrote: »arditarose wrote: »I'm at 1300 today. I would have been full on 1200, I used at least 100 calories of PB2 in my protein fluff which doesn't need it.
Oh, and that's how I get full. High volume: veg, protein, and that protein fluff
PB2 in protein fluff? I'm interested in this concoction. What is it? How do you make it?
I make my protein fluff with 20 grams of casein protein powder (cannot be whey or any other), 6 grams of xanthun gum, 10 0z of any liquid (milk, almond milk, diet soda, I use water). From there you can go crazy. You can add whatever fruit you want, I used 100 grams of banana. You can literally add whatever you want to make it as low calorie or as high calorie as needed. One night I sprinkled two reeses cups on top. Now I use a good 30 grams of PB2, some cocoa powder, maybe a little sweetener. This fluff becomes so big it fills an entire mixing bowl.
Here's one that @vismal makes. I tried it with diet root beer and didn't like it though. I prefer water and probably some sort of milkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR3Z028prSU
Mind. Blown.
How's noise and clean up for something like this, though? Unfortunately I have none of the ingredients and would need to spend a minimum of $50. But this could basically mean a homemade blizzard for way less calories
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