So frustrated

shellfab
shellfab Posts: 33 Member
edited November 23 in Health and Weight Loss
I feel stuck at 150! I have been 150 practically all summer, gained 6 lbs on vacation, lost than and a bit more. Last two weeks the 1.5 more came back on and I am just stuck there. I hate when I am doing the right things and not losing. I am gained muscle and inches, but damn the scale!

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  • shellfab
    shellfab Posts: 33 Member
    "That and more" ^^ typo
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Sounds like you are eating at maintenance. Do you use a food scale?
  • GloworminWA
    GloworminWA Posts: 704 Member
    Don't get hung up on the scale it's only one tool. You said you're gaining muscle which is heavier. If you keep track of your measurements you may find that although the scale isn't moving the inches are. Sometimes your schedule just needs a change to get things moving again. You can do this don't give up!
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I feel stuck at 150! I have been 150 practically all summer, gained 6 lbs on vacation, lost than and a bit more. Last two weeks the 1.5 more came back on and I am just stuck there. I hate when I am doing the right things and not losing. I am gained muscle and inches, but damn the scale!

    You said you've lost some weight, and you don't gain muscle in a deficit, except for minor newbie gains. Also, you don't gain inches with muscle either unless you're a guy.

    Some might be natural fluctuations, but it really sounds like you're eating at maintenance.

    What is your calorie goal to lose weight? Height, weight, age?

    Do you weigh and log your food? If you exercise, do you track your steady-state cardio and log it too? Do you eat any of those exercise calories back?

    Open your diary if you want specific advice.
  • shellfab
    shellfab Posts: 33 Member
    I am eating way less than maintenance, using food scale and measuring cups/spoons. It is very frustrating.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Then you need to open your diary.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I am eating way less than maintenance, using food scale and measuring cups/spoons. It is very frustrating.

    No you're not, so my guess is that you are unintentionally underestimating calories in and/or overestimating calories out. if you were eating below maintenance you would not be maintaining your weight. :)

    I noticed by your ticker that you have lost quite a bit of weight and have only 14 or so pounds to go. That's wonderful! Have you adjusted your calorie goal with each ten pounds you've lost? As we get smaller our calorie goals change, even our maintenance calories. :)
  • shellfab
    shellfab Posts: 33 Member
    I eat anywhere from 1200-1600 calories a day. I try not to eat all exercise calories, as I never know if they are accurate. A person my height should eat 1850 to maintain. I am never close to that and exercise on top of it. I understand that weight loss is based on calorie deficit, but I just do not believe it is THE ONLY factor.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I eat anywhere from 1200-1600 calories a day. I try not to eat all exercise calories, as I never know if they are accurate. A person my height should eat 1850 to maintain. I am never close to that and exercise on top of it. I understand that weight loss is based on calorie deficit, but I just do not believe it is THE ONLY factor.

    But it is:)
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited August 2015
    shellfab wrote: »
    I eat anywhere from 1200-1600 calories a day. I try not to eat all exercise calories, as I never know if they are accurate. A person my height should eat 1850 to maintain. I am never close to that and exercise on top of it. I understand that weight loss is based on calorie deficit, but I just do not believe it is THE ONLY factor.

    You are incorrect. The only thing required to lose weight is a calorie deficit. Here's the deal:
    • If you eat less calories than you burn, you will lose weight.
    • If you eat more calories than you burn, you will gain weight.
    • If you eat about the same amount of calories you burn you will maintain your weight.

    You're not losing weight and, setting aside the usual fluctuations, you are not gaining weight, so there is only one option left-you are eating about the same amount of calories you are burning.

    If you open your diary, we can give you specific feedback.

    Again-have you adjusted your calorie goals with each ten pounds loss? As we lose weight, our calorie goals become less. :)
  • shellfab
    shellfab Posts: 33 Member
    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I believe that hormones, stress, sleep issues, and medical conditions will cause stubborn weight loss. I do not believe a calorie deficit is the end all be all of weight loss. I appreciate the advice, because it comes from a good place. I just have a feeling it is not what is going on with me right now. I have always lost weight easily when disciplined and I have to get to the bottom of what is going on here.
  • GreenHeather2014
    GreenHeather2014 Posts: 74 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I believe that hormones, stress, sleep issues, and medical conditions will cause stubborn weight loss. "
    I come from a background in chemistry, and while my biochem is weak (I did p-chem for 15 years), the science behind calorie deficit only applies to a perfectly healthy person. I agree with you; things like stress and sleep effect weight gain/loss. Depressing thing I learned about fat; the more fat cells you have, the more of various antibodies are secreted from those fat cells. They're notorious for causing allergies, but are now being directly tied to weight gain...*sigh*
    Hay fever AND a fat *ss...who wants that?
  • GreenHeather2014
    GreenHeather2014 Posts: 74 Member
    More usefully, I suggest changing up your diet and exercise routine. Your body gets used to foods and movements, and 'settles in,' so to speak.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    @shellfab you'll get much more detailed help/advice if you open your diary. Up to you :)
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I believe that hormones, stress, sleep issues, and medical conditions will cause stubborn weight loss. I do not believe a calorie deficit is the end all be all of weight loss. I appreciate the advice, because it comes from a good place. I just have a feeling it is not what is going on with me right now. I have always lost weight easily when disciplined and I have to get to the bottom of what is going on here.

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  • sheldonklein
    sheldonklein Posts: 854 Member
    edited August 2015
    shellfab wrote: »
    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I believe that hormones, stress, sleep issues, and medical conditions will cause stubborn weight loss. I do not believe a calorie deficit is the end all be all of weight loss. I appreciate the advice, because it comes from a good place. I just have a feeling it is not what is going on with me right now. I have always lost weight easily when disciplined and I have to get to the bottom of what is going on here.

    Those other factors can, to a small extent, affect either CI (by increasing appetite) or CO (by decreasing burn), but they don't change the CICO equation. However, it is unlikely that the effect is large enough for you to be eating at an assumed 300-600 / day deficit and not ā actually lose weight over a prolonged period. Besides, have any of those factors drastically changed from when you were losing weight?
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I believe that hormones, stress, sleep issues, and medical conditions will cause stubborn weight loss. I do not believe a calorie deficit is the end all be all of weight loss. I appreciate the advice, because it comes from a good place. I just have a feeling it is not what is going on with me right now. I have always lost weight easily when disciplined and I have to get to the bottom of what is going on here.

    You may disagree all you want but science is science whether any of us like it or not, and I've certainly tried to outsmart science before by eating just the right foods, avoiding the wrong foods, and looking for other ways why I was not losing weight. I was the queen of fad dieting too. None of my trying to outsmart science or dabbling in fad diets worked because the bottom line is calories in/calories out, and it is indeed the one determining factor as to whether we gain, lose, or stay the same.

    You said you have always lost weight when disciplined, so therein lies your golden nugget. I suggest you find that place of discipline again and work on that logging, weigh your food and make sure you have accurate entries, and stay within your calorie goals. I really believe that you are unintentionally eating more than your realize.

    Good luck to you.
  • AliciaToniak
    AliciaToniak Posts: 25 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I feel stuck at 150! I have been 150 practically all summer, gained 6 lbs on vacation, lost than and a bit more. Last two weeks the 1.5 more came back on and I am just stuck there. I hate when I am doing the right things and not losing. I am gained muscle and inches, but damn the scale!

    Ahhhh plateaus got to love them...when I was on a plateau buster from the last weight loss program I was on we drank meal replacement shakes for two meals a day and nothing but white meat- so chicken breast or fish and 3 cups of green vegetables with it as your one "real food meal" for the day and did that for one week and I lost about 7 lbs that week!! Then back to good eating and exercising after that do you don't just gain it all back
    It's tough but works
    I love green veggies like broccoli and beans and used lettuce with cucumbers and green onion or if you like spinach or kale ...basically anything green you get three cups
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I feel stuck at 150! I have been 150 practically all summer, gained 6 lbs on vacation, lost than and a bit more. Last two weeks the 1.5 more came back on and I am just stuck there. I hate when I am doing the right things and not losing. I am gained muscle and inches, but damn the scale!

    Ahhhh plateaus got to love them...when I was on a plateau buster from the last weight loss program I was on we drank meal replacement shakes for two meals a day and nothing but white meat- so chicken breast or fish and 3 cups of green vegetables with it as your one "real food meal" for the day and did that for one week and I lost about 7 lbs that week!! Then back to good eating and exercising after that do you don't just gain it all back
    It's tough but works
    I love green veggies like broccoli and beans and used lettuce with cucumbers and green onion or if you like spinach or kale ...basically anything green you get three cups

    Then I would choose three cups of green m&m's.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    shellfab wrote: »
    I feel stuck at 150! I have been 150 practically all summer, gained 6 lbs on vacation, lost than and a bit more. Last two weeks the 1.5 more came back on and I am just stuck there. I hate when I am doing the right things and not losing. I am gained muscle and inches, but damn the scale!

    Ahhhh plateaus got to love them...when I was on a plateau buster from the last weight loss program I was on we drank meal replacement shakes for two meals a day and nothing but white meat- so chicken breast or fish and 3 cups of green vegetables with it as your one "real food meal" for the day and did that for one week and I lost about 7 lbs that week!! Then back to good eating and exercising after that do you don't just gain it all back
    It's tough but works
    I love green veggies like broccoli and beans and used lettuce with cucumbers and green onion or if you like spinach or kale ...basically anything green you get three cups

    There is not magic in that food you ate. You lost some water weight, maybe a bit of fat due to a calorie deficit. ;)
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