Maintaining mostly at 1200
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Depending on where OP is the menopause spectrum, she could very well be maintaining on 1200 calories a day. If I have a sedentary or even lightly active day, I'm maintaining on around that at 56 years old, 5'1.5". Regarding the magnesium/weight loss relationship -- magnesium citrate can act as a laxative, so that poster could be losing weight and some belly bloating in the AM as a result. Other than that, magnesium is not a weight loss aid.0
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cwolfman13 wrote: »how sedentary are all of you? get up and do something...
Have to agree
By calculators (admittedly estimates)
A 30 year old, 5', 100lbs woman who is sedentary would maintain at 1478 calories
At lightly active ...eg add a 30 minute stroll to the shops would maintain at 1698 calories
By 60 they'd lose 190 calories (roughly) ...just move more, build muscle
Unless there is any type of hormonal, or genetic markers that might lower the bmr.. .such as PCOS, IR, Diabetes, and various genes as well .0 -
Not everybody is the same. There are so many factors from water consumption/retention, vitamin & mineral deficiencies or even having too many of certain ones, genetic issues (MTHFR, uhm Factor 5 I think it is, and a few others), PCOS, insulin resistance, diabetes, gut issues, cortisol problems, adrenal problems, bone mass, lean muscle percentage, actual fat percentage, allergens, sleeping habits, and loads more that can change what the caloric needs are of a person as well as what percentages of carb, fat, and protein they should have.
While there may be issues with what is being put into MyFitness... I realized such issues a couple weeks ago and now have to check re-check everything.
While there is the issue of activity - which itself can vary from cardio, to weight, to etc for effects on the body and those effects can vary from person to person.
I feel like many of the people responding are being a bit harsher than they could have been... I think this is mostly unintentional but for those trying to just figure something out it can be very stressful (which then effects weight).
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Nic123fitness wrote: »Can I check if anyone else 'seems' to maintain at 1200. I'm 5ft 3, 40yrs and sedentary. I also have a problem walking fast due to a condition with my legs. I suspect that actually I am underestimating what I eat and am actually eating over 1200, so my plan is to be stricter with the scales. Did anybody else solve this problem. Ps I work out way more than I used to at 3x per week. I only have about 5 pounds to go..
Have you had blood work done and spoken with a doctor to confirm there are no issues with vitamins/nutrients, with hormones, allergies, or other things that could be effecting things?1 -
DebbieMacking wrote: »Not everybody is the same. There are so many factors from water consumption/retention, vitamin & mineral deficiencies or even having too many of certain ones, genetic issues (MTHFR, uhm Factor 5 I think it is, and a few others), PCOS, insulin resistance, diabetes, gut issues, cortisol problems, adrenal problems, bone mass, lean muscle percentage, actual fat percentage, allergens, sleeping habits, and loads more that can change what the caloric needs are of a person as well as what percentages of carb, fat, and protein they should have.
While there may be issues with what is being put into MyFitness... I realized such issues a couple weeks ago and now have to check re-check everything.
While there is the issue of activity - which itself can vary from cardio, to weight, to etc for effects on the body and those effects can vary from person to person.
I feel like many of the people responding are being a bit harsher than they could have been... I think this is mostly unintentional but for those trying to just figure something out it can be very stressful (which then effects weight).
Nope people are just giving the basics
The rule has always been start with estimates, check your progress over 6-8 weeks and adjust
Medical conditions can certainly affect the TDEE ..but so could getting more active (positively), building muscle (positively)
Accurate logging of calories is the other factor
Everybody has a tough time losing weight...the trick is to avoid excuses and deal with the actuality in front of you. You can always have an RMR check if you're particularly worried...look for indirect calorimetry testing
Calories in < calories out = weight loss
Medical conditions may affect calories out, or may not...it doesn't affect the formula though0 -
I'm 5'3 and maintain at about 1500 I'm on the 1200 cal diet at the moment to and am losing weight well
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titotito48 wrote: »And have you noticed fat loss in your stomach? My stomach seems to be the last place I'm losing!
Tiotio48,
I notice a big difference in weight loss when I use the magnesium supplement.
I started this diet a year ago, and I wasn't taking Magnesium. The 12,00 calorie diet alone certainly helped. But I started seeing my doctor for migrane issues and she said that magnesium could help with my migraines. I noticed a big difference in weight loss with the magnesium. Here is an article about it, magnesium has many benefits. http://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/6-reasons-youre-not-losing-belly-fat
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
I don't think the fact that magnesium tablets aren't going to make someone lose half a pound to a pound at night is a hidden message.Strong first post there.
People typically weigh the least first thing in the morning. Just surviving the night is often enough to see weight (not fat) losses that size and greater.
I do weigh myself every morning. On days that I just diet there isn't much change, but nights that I take the supplement I do notice a huge difference. This is my 2nd time on this diet. The first time I was on it for about 6 months, the first 4 months of that I lost 15 pounds, after I started taking the magnesium I lost 25lbs, that's in 2 months. My stomach is a problem area and I noticed that while taking the magnesium a lot of the fat was coming off from my stomach. I had to stop dieting because I got pregnant, so I also stopped taking Magnesium. This is my second time in the diet and I am once again taking Magnesium. This is my personal experience, just thought I'd share. I didn't realize there'd be SO many negative Nacys.... Give it a try or don't, its up to you. But I guess you won't know how it works unless you actually try it. I had no clue that it would help with my weight loss, but it has
Here is an article on how beneficial magnesium is; http://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/6-reasons-youre-not-losing-belly-fat0 -
titotito48 wrote: »And have you noticed fat loss in your stomach? My stomach seems to be the last place I'm losing!
And I do notice a big change in belly fat while taking the magnesium. My belly is also a difficult area for me.0 -
middlehaitch wrote: »Please research magnesium supplements ( and any others) before taking them. A diet with sufficient fibre and green leafy veg should give you the magnesium you need.
It has lots of benefits but fat reduction isn't one of them. Regulating bowel movements is.
The way to get a flat stomach is primarily by diet; to lose the fat, and secondly exercise; to maintain and strengthen the muscle below the fat.
Read the links at the top top of the page instead of following fads.
Cheers, h.
Actually magnesium has MANY benefits! Yes, bowle movements is one of those. My doctor actually prescribed it for my migraines, I just so happened to be dieting at the time, several months into my diet. I noticed a big change in how much weight I was losing once I started the magnesium. That was before I got pregnant and had to quit dieting, now that I've had my baby I'm back at it again.
Here's an article about magnesium http://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/diet-tips/6-reasons-youre-not-losing-belly-fat
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The article you are quoting has a lot of 'may' words in it connected to magnesium's effect on weight loss.
I did say that it had lots of benefits, so I have no idea why you had to bold the word 'many'.
I gave the OP sound advice, based on the information i had, and encouraged her to research any supplement, including magnesium, that she was thinking of taking.
Sorry you are having a problem.
Cheers, h.
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middlehaitch wrote: »The article you are quoting has a lot of 'may' words in it connected to magnesium's effect on weight loss.
I did say that it had lots of benefits, so I have no idea why you had to bold the word 'many'.
I gave the OP sound advice, based on the information i had, and encouraged her to research any supplement, including magnesium, that she was thinking of taking.
Sorry you are having a problem.
Cheers, h.
My only issue is that you said that it doesn't work for weight loss, when it indeed does. If you want to try it great, if not that's fine too. Obviously not everything works the same for everyone. I'm just really annoyed of people saying that magnesium doesn't work for weight loss when it has worked great for me. And sure, research it, but don't say it doesn't work unless you have looked into it. I've only been dieting and taking magnesium this time around for 5 days and have already lost 9lbs.
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It has worked for you.
Even the article you posted says it 'may' help in weight loss, not that it does. It is not proven, you having success is anecdotal.
I could find no research showing magnesium reduces fat.
CI<CO is a proven, scientific, method of weight loss and fat reduction.
Cheers, h.
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Brittbam89 wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »The article you are quoting has a lot of 'may' words in it connected to magnesium's effect on weight loss.
I did say that it had lots of benefits, so I have no idea why you had to bold the word 'many'.
I gave the OP sound advice, based on the information i had, and encouraged her to research any supplement, including magnesium, that she was thinking of taking.
Sorry you are having a problem.
Cheers, h.
My only issue is that you said that it doesn't work for weight loss, when it indeed does. If you want to try it great, if not that's fine too. Obviously not everything works the same for everyone. I'm just really annoyed of people saying that magnesium doesn't work for weight loss when it has worked great for me. And sure, research it, but don't say it doesn't work unless you have looked into it. I've only been dieting and taking magnesium this time around for 5 days and have already lost 9lbs.
If it worked for weight loss it would work in isolation, so how about you stop your diet and exercise and see how that goes for 8 weeks..cos magnesium right
Nothing to do with it being a laxative.
H is right, a healthy balanced diet has copious sources of magnesium
green leafy vegetables – such as spinach.
nuts.
brown rice.
bread (especially wholegrain)
fish.
meat.
dairy foods.
Ignore your article and read this instead
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Magnesium-HealthProfessional/
9lbs in 5 days is initial water weight loss and a good boost to your ego, please keep going even when you stall...weight loss isn't linear, come back in 8 weeks and post your average loss
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Thanks for the time you've all taken to reply folks! I will re read and digest. I'm hearing tips on logging, magnesium and staying active, and patience for those last few pounds!!0
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I'm 5'5.5", 40 years, maintaining around 125 pounds. If I did not make the effort to move more, my maintenance calories would be 1400-1500 at best. So despite having a desk job, being a full time grad student, etc. - I make the choice/effort to move more. I hit 10k steps or more practically every day. And this puts my maintenance range around 1700-1850 on office job days.0
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OP for what it's worth, I'm 5'2, 40, and maintaining about 123 lbs with a maintenance level of ~2100-2300 based on my FitBit. I'm not a marathon runner or heavy lifter - exercise is walking (~14K steps/day) and light weights about 2-3 days/week.
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Brittbam89 wrote: »middlehaitch wrote: »The article you are quoting has a lot of 'may' words in it connected to magnesium's effect on weight loss.
I did say that it had lots of benefits, so I have no idea why you had to bold the word 'many'.
I gave the OP sound advice, based on the information i had, and encouraged her to research any supplement, including magnesium, that she was thinking of taking.
Sorry you are having a problem.
Cheers, h.
My only issue is that you said that it doesn't work for weight loss, when it indeed does. If you want to try it great, if not that's fine too. Obviously not everything works the same for everyone. I'm just really annoyed of people saying that magnesium doesn't work for weight loss when it has worked great for me. And sure, research it, but don't say it doesn't work unless you have looked into it. I've only been dieting and taking magnesium this time around for 5 days and have already lost 9lbs.
If it worked for weight loss it would work in isolation, so how about you stop your diet and exercise and see how that goes for 8 weeks..cos magnesium right
Nothing to do with it being a laxative.
H is right, a healthy balanced diet has copious sources of magnesium
green leafy vegetables – such as spinach.
nuts.
brown rice.
bread (especially wholegrain)
fish.
meat.
dairy foods.
Ignore your article and read this instead
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Magnesium-HealthProfessional/
9lbs in 5 days is initial water weight loss and a good boost to your ego, please keep going even when you stall...weight loss isn't linear, come back in 8 weeks and post your average loss
This.
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To paraphrase..........take a pill, lose 1/2 pound.
Why would you need a website where you measure portions and log food? Magnesium (apparently) makes the completely this unnecessary.
My vote is...........not a compliment. There is no magic bullet. There is no way to spot reduce.
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To paraphrase..........take a pill, lose 1/2 pound.
Why would you need a website where you measure portions and log food? Magnesium (apparently) makes the completely this unnecessary.
My vote is...........not a compliment. There is no magic bullet. There is no way to spot reduce.
Isn't dark chocolate high in magnesium? Here's what I'm getting out of this - eat lots of dark chocolate, lose weight/belly fat. Right? Is that right?
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WinoGelato wrote: »
To paraphrase..........take a pill, lose 1/2 pound.
Why would you need a website where you measure portions and log food? Magnesium (apparently) makes the completely this unnecessary.
My vote is...........not a compliment. There is no magic bullet. There is no way to spot reduce.
Isn't dark chocolate high in magnesium? Here's what I'm getting out of this - eat lots of dark chocolate, lose weight/belly fat. Right? Is that right?
Sound good to me! I'll get right on that
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Nic123fitness wrote: »Thanks for the time you've all taken to reply folks! I will re read and digest. I'm hearing tips on logging, magnesium and staying active, and patience for those last few pounds!!
And remember that "staying active" doesn't have to mean "walking fast." Walking slow, casual bike riding, cleaning the house, gardening, window shopping, playing dress up with your kids... they're all activities and they ALL make a difference if you have a low TDEE. Essentially, any time you're not sitting or laying is a step in the calorie-burning direction
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I maintain at 1300.
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The only person I know who maintains at 1200 is my 69 year old grandmother. She has rheumatoid arthritis and is basically bedridden. Also, she doesn't weigh all her food. She lost about 6kg over several months using MFP and is now maintaining.2
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middlehaitch wrote: »Please research magnesium supplements ( and any others) before taking them. A diet with sufficient fibre and green leafy veg should give you the magnesium you need.
Most people are actually deficient in magnesium, as it's used by every organ in your body. Studies have shown that 75-80% of Americans don't get enough magnesium. Deficiency will NOT show up in a blood test, as only 1% of the magnesium in your body is in your blood stream. Magnesium-rich foods don't contain as much as they used to, due to herbicides. Also, the "recommended daily amount" is just enough to ward off deficiency, but not to keep optimal levels. Vitamin D is helpful in magnesium absorption, but if you're older, ingest a lot of caffeine, or have an unhealthy digestive system, you are most likely low in magnesium.0 -
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Ivy ivy, like your research, however I was pointing out that any supplement, especially one that is hyped to get rid of abdominal fat, should be researched before taking.
I wouldn't take a supplement before I knew more about it; I don't think you would either ( an assumption based on your post).
Cheers, h.1 -
Wow. I feel like I stirred up a hornets nest. 1200 absolutely was what I should have been eating at when I was unable to walk. I didn't, I gained weight. I however, am not the norm. Smaller women with those caloric needs also tend to have more mineral and vitamin deficiencies, and for those calling me sedentary, yes, I was, I was TOLD NOT TO WALK during that time period. My only point is you can't blanket say that nobody loses at that intake.
OP if you are that close to goal, and accurately logging, it could very well be that you're building muscle or retaining more water than normal. Even IF you are accurately logging, I wouldn't go below that because it's very hard to get nutrition at that level of eating. And the closer to your goal you are, the slower you will lose, because you don't have as big of a calorie deficit. Do whatever you did to lose the weight to begin with and keep at it. It will come off, it just takes FOREVER to get the last few pounds off.
How do you accurately log?0 -
How long have you been maintaining at 1200? If you only have 5lbs to lose, then 1200 would not be a huge deficit & you would be very losing slowly. You could just be in a plateau. I'm 44 & 5' 2.5". I maintain at 1430 at my goal weight of 150lbs. I am sedentary. I lose & maintain by strictly controlling my calorie intake. Unfortunately, when you're shorter, you don't have any wiggle room once you get close to your goal weight. You have to be extremely accurate in your logging.
I have been supplementing with magnesium occasionally & haven't seen an increase in my weight loss or reduction in my belly fat. I tend to store weight around my middle, so that would be great. But, so far it's not happening beyond what I would expect with my normal rate of loss by watching my calories.0 -
That moment when you re-read old posts and think yup, I'm awesome :bigsmile:1
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