Lower back pain.

Hello,

I was just curious if anyone had any knowledge about lower back pain and how to deal with it. I've had a bad back for years now and just kinda dealt with it, no big deal, but as I've been increasing the intensity of my workouts lately, it has really gotten in the way of me making any real progress with my deadlifts and squats.

I've tried stretches specific to the lower back and idk, it just only seems to be temporary and I don't feel like it's doing much. I've read that hip flexors or tight glutes could also cause struggles with deadlifting and squats? Not sure.

Any help on the topic would be appreciated. Thanks

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  • Farahworld
    Farahworld Posts: 41 Member
    edited September 2015
    I am struggling with it as well . It's true it did stood in my way of my progress. So I changed my type of exercises instead. This is a good video that helped me minimize the discomfort
    http://youtu.be/xdCJrWNO7O8
    Remember the main point is your mentality toward your pain do not let it cripple you but at the same time don't ignore it!
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    if i had lower back pain for YEARS i'd probably ask a doctor about it.

    just sayin
  • hugheseva
    hugheseva Posts: 227 Member
    Check out these subscriptions on YouTube (they are free, of course): "physicaltherapyvideo" and "AskDrJo". Both have great exercises for lower back and other ailments.
    I have had a herniated disk for fifteen years and still do dead lifts. What I do is focus on my hamstrings and glutes when I lift. Also, you may want to ease up on the weight. Do more reps instead. I also don't do any abs where my hip leaves the surface. So it's mostly leg raises, crunches on the exercise ball.
    And stretch, stretch, stretch before and after. Super important. Also, if you don't do it now, start to use the foam roller extensively. Find you spot and hang on it for extra stretch. You can also ice your lower back after an intense workout. That takes down the inflammation. Good luck!
  • iwearthejumper32
    iwearthejumper32 Posts: 57 Member
    Tight hamstrings can cause cause a pelvic tilt that can lead to lower back pain especially if you're working the hams out. But... It could be a million different things. Maybe a bulging disc, annular tear or weak deep abdominal muscles (not the ones frequently worked out) ... Or work related especially if you sit at your job... Or have a physically demanding job. It's probably not muscle weakness in the back if you are strong and working out... more like a possible muscular imbalance... strong muscles can overpower others and create bad postures. I'd say stretch out your hamstrings frequently... every time you sit throughout the day and see if that doesn't improve things a bit. Tall back and flex foot then lean into it. And then make a Dr appt and ask for physical therapy ;)
  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,399 Member
    I've had personal experience with this and now live with it. My advice is to go see a doctor NOW.

    I sucked up pain for years until it reached a point my back put me on my knees, literally. Over the years I've done damage that can't really be reversed. So at this point I've been told a back surgery is most likely in my future. I have a choice of doing specific stretches and protecting my back based on my specific issues, or make matters worse by ignoring it.

    Better safe than sorry. If I had gone earlier I might have done less damage. At your age don't ignore it, as there is potential to make things better early in life, or do like I did and potentially make matters worse.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    check the doctor to make sure is all ok.
    check form
    stretch. and practice restorative poses that take pressure off of the lower back
  • wkwebby
    wkwebby Posts: 807 Member
    I've had a bad back for years too. Injuring it while I was 16 made healing it easier, but at 41, it's catching up to me. If the pain is intermittent, just keep up with the stretches and back exercises. If you feel SORE right after the exercise, you're going too heavy. If it is DOMS back pain (i.e. core), then you are ok, but you still have to take it easy until the swelling subsides. If you are in constant pain, you need to see a sports med doctor or physical therapist to stop the pain. The constant pain will make you not want to work out, which weakens the back even further (it's a vicious cycle). Low impact workouts are the way to go if you are in pain (standing or sitting for long stretches of time is bad for the pain). Moving around will make your back feel better, but you need to know what exercises are allowable and good for strengthening while still keeping pain at bay.

    Firstly, go see a medical professional though and get it assessed. Good luck! :smiley:
  • Spliner1969
    Spliner1969 Posts: 3,233 Member
    There's good news and bad news. The good news is that you aren't yet in enough pain to be on the floor in agony without being able to walk or even stand. The bad news is that can happen. I injured my back when I was 18-19 at a job. I was lifting far more than what I should. At the time, being stupid and not wanting to get fired, I didn't tell anyone, took pain killers, and got through it. For nearly 20 years I had lower back pain after that off and on. There were some good days and some bad. But eventually one day I picked up something heavy (I even lifted it correctly) and felt something in my back give out. The very next day I was in so much pain (if there was an 11 on the pain scale, I was there) in my left leg and buttock that I wanted to die. I could not even sit still for an MRI, they had to shoot me full of morphine just to get me to take an x-ray. I ended up in emergency surgery a few days later when I lost all feeling below my waste. It was a bulging disc and it was crushing my sciatic nerve. They said it was likely bulging for many years, but the last thing I lifted pushed it finally into the nerve root. The moral of this story, go see a back specialist if you have insurance. Pay your co-pay and get an MRI. There are things they can do to help you. Skip the chiropractors until a specialist tells you it's ok. You will know a good specialist when he/she tells you that surgery is the absolute last resort and that they want to try other things, like injections, first.

    I just went through another bad month of downtime recently due to more bulging discs in my back. I, however, have degenerative disc disease, so my back problems will likely plague me the rest of my life. However, losing weight (you're on the right site for that) is the right thing to do, and if you follow the advice of a specialist you will probably avoid the issues I've had. Otherwise, ignore it, and one day you'll experience true pain. ;(

    At the very least, stop putting weight on your lower back, continue with stretches, for about a month, and see how it goes. If that doesn't rebound you, consider a specialist. Just my opinion. ;)
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,213 Member
    +1 on the doctor. If there's nothing *major*, ask for a physical therapy referral. And/or an osteopathic manipulation referral. A good massage therapist (don't ask me how to figure out who's good!) may also help with stretches you can do on your own as well as providing the massage therapy, if it's tightness or imbalance.

    As a cancer survivor, my back pain was getting me to multiple scary tests (involving being injected with something that a technician delivers in a lead-lined vial!) annually, to rule out bone metastases (yikes).

    The osteopath, massage therapist, and correct exercise/stretching got me to a point where it's no longer a problem. (It was a combination of imbalanced weakness, tightness, posture and such a bit out of whack, and arthritis.)
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    How intense is the pain? In this thread I see references to tight muscles, bulging discs, etc. I had a protruding disc and you'll know the difference between something like that and tight muscles; good chance some nerve pain down your leg due impingement on the sciatica will accompany certain disc and vertebrate injuries.

    If it's just sore it's likely just tightness and you need to work on your mobility. Self-myofacial release via a foam roller or lacrosse ball coupled with stretching on a consistent basis will help a lot. Make sure you're getting your hamstrings, hips, glutes, lower back with the foam roller, honestly I find a lacrosse ball is often needed.

    Aside from that it could also be related to weak Core muscles. Weak Core Stabilizers such as the transversus abdominus (TrA), multifidus, and erectors can be related to lower back pain as well. Although heavy squats and deadlifts are great for the erectors and multifidus they aren't all that great for the TrA or even as great for your rectus abdominus and obliques as most think they are. You should do a little extra work for those muscles, emphasis on little. An exercise known as the "Drawing-In Maneuver" is really geared towards developing the TrA.

    If the pain is more intense than just light soreness or gets worse, consult with a back specialist MD as soon as possible.
  • urloved33
    urloved33 Posts: 3,323 Member
    Farahworld wrote: »
    I am struggling with it as well . It's true it did stood in my way of my progress. So I changed my type of exercises instead. This is a good video that helped me minimize the discomfort
    http://youtu.be/xdCJrWNO7O8
    Remember the main point is your mentality toward your pain do not let it cripple you but at the same time don't ignore it!

    this daily w happy baby yin yoga pose.

  • deescrafty
    deescrafty Posts: 174 Member
    I too thought my back pain was just sore muscles from the type of work I did until one day I was walking around an art festival and collapsed. My right leg had no feeling and I couldn't stand on it. At the hospital the mds thought Id bad a stroke until the MRI and cat scan came back. I had 4 bulging and one heriated disc and my sciatica was pinched off. Even with pt and pain shots I am never out of pain.All my lumbar discs have heriated and I have spinal stenosis. I will never be pain free. Don't wait to see a back specialist and physical therapist. There is never time to waste. The back is complicated.
  • upgradeddiddy
    upgradeddiddy Posts: 281 Member
    1) I would make sure that your form with your exercises is clean. Most likely your body is telling you bad form and bad posture 2) make sure you do warm up sets for these movements. Stretching "cold muscles" does more harm than good so while the stretches I saw in the above posts are important, do these after warming up. For Squats and deadlifts this is super important to avoid "snap city". And 3) it depends on how bad off you back really is. Since it doesn't sound like your sciatic nerve is being effected and no general weakness or numbness it's probably not an issue. Hope this helps.
  • DancingMoosie
    DancingMoosie Posts: 8,619 Member
    I used to see a naturopath who also did chiropractic techniques. He helped me a lot with my back. I also saw 2 different chiropractors after a car accident and was taught some new stretching techniques(but this was mostly for my neck, as that was the affected area from the accident). What helped me the most was lifting free weights, and not increasing on squats and deadlifts too quickly. I still don't lift very heavy on deads as that feels the most scary for me on my lower back. I go for slightly less weight, a few more reps, as opposed to the 1x5 suggested by the SL 5x5 program. I also do a lot of cardio and some ab focused work. I think everything works together to help my back. I hardly ever have lower back pain any more. You should see a doctor to make sure there is no damage or injury. An x-ray showed that I have a wonky lower spine, which can cause a muscle imbalance, but nothing to be injured or aggravated by my exercises(as long as I'm careful).
  • Blake3693
    Blake3693 Posts: 56 Member
    Thanks everyone for your replies, I really appreciate it. I think I'll follow what a lot your guys' advice was & go ahead and visit a back specialist to find out if I have any real underlying issues.