Binging/overeating when not hungry

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Hello.
Or I should say Hello again.

I've been overweight for the last 9 years. I am carrying about 50% more body than I should - 95 kg instead of about 60kg. I feel dreadful about my shape and size, it physically gets in the way of things I want to do - I was always a sporty person.

So. I have been 'trying' to lose it over the years. Any of the ways I try work for about 8 hours then I overeat/binge. Every day.

I binge/overeat because I am overwhelmed, sad, angry, lonely, happy, alone for a minute, alone for a car journey, sad to be overweight. The weight is cause, symptom and result of the eating.

How do I get over this, break through this? I want to eat healthy, cleanish. I want to run and row and swim (I fail to stick to this past 3 days also as it all feels so hard). My life is uber-busy with 3 kids (9-13 all very slim), other half away a lot (he's very slim, fit, eats great, runs every single day and getting quicker at 41), so I have to hold the fort and skip my things ( yes, I hear the whinge in my tone there too), and we live 20mins drive in different directions to school and work. We both work full time too. Me in sedentary job.

It's my head I have to sort. Any ideas how?
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  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
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    Honestly you sound like you have a potential eating disorder. I'd see a doctor and ask for a referral.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
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    Are you getting enough sleep? Consider getting some help around the house, esp with your OH away a lot. Teach the children to get more involved in cleaning.
  • moss11
    moss11 Posts: 236 Member
    edited September 2015
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    Sorry I wrote a great big reply and most of it disappeared!!!
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    ultrahoon wrote: »
    Honestly you sound like you have a potential eating disorder. I'd see a doctor and ask for a referral.

    This.

    Also, stop putting yourself last. Are you from the 1950s? Girl power, baby! You deserve to look after yourself. Nobody else is going to do it for you!
  • Inglebert
    Inglebert Posts: 39 Member
    edited September 2015
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    Thank you all for your comments, it's good to get other views, thanks for your time.

    I'm not putting myself last, I'm really not. Offensive comment about 1950s, so not how it is, but you can't know that. Kids do lots, they and other half really pull their weight, if anything, I don't. That's why when he's away there's a lot more to do. Cleaning not an issue, we have very low standards, life is not for cleaning!

    Bang on with sleep comment though, and I'm trying to get more. Been using a Fitbit since June, which evidences what I already knew, I average 5-6 hours, targeting 7. This could make a huge difference shouldn't it? I also have a well-controlled underachieving thyroid, in fact probably slightly over-corrected I think at the moment. So this should not have an impact, but it is what kick-started my weight gain.

    Yes, I know it's an eating disorder, but small community, hard to talk to GPs. Might try though.

    Not having a go here, but a comment like "nobody else is going to do it for you" just makes me want to crawl back to bed. I know it's all down to me.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    Don't get mad with me, get mad with yourself. Go to bed, and sleep well knowing you've got this. You can sort yourself out. You can do it!
  • Osiris275
    Osiris275 Posts: 228 Member
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    I used to binge like that, and honestly, sometimes I slip up and do anyway, although nothing like I used to. I seems to just get into the frame of mind that said, I have to stop or I'm going to be unhappy the rest of my life. I'm not perfect, and I know I could still quite happily binge, but I don't keep any of te stuff I used to binge on in the house anymore. It's the only thing that works for me mainly.

    Sometimes, at night if I'm feeling like that I get on my exercise bike. I find it distracts me from eating and also it helps me sleep easier doing some exercise before bed.

    Good luck. If you want to do it, you can!
  • Inglebert
    Inglebert Posts: 39 Member
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    Orphia, I'm not mad with you, and getting mad with me would make me eat! But I agree, I can do this. It's just been a tough week and I've munched my way through.

    Osiris, those are comforting words. I have a waterrower and treadmill, so I need to take your advice on substituting those for eating. I have so many other things I should do but tbh I don't get them done anyway so more rowing/running will help everything.

    I need to not beat myself up, but work harder at eating the right stuff, doing the exercise I want to. I love the sports but am so overweight I am pitiable. Will not take long to change that if I can only stick at it for a few weeks.
  • Inglebert
    Inglebert Posts: 39 Member
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    Rahr! I'm a tiger! Will report back here how I'm doing if you are interested... Hoping it might help me. And maybe others ashamed of similar behaviour.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
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    You don't have to go from zero to running a marathon overnight. Just start with small reasonable goals one at a time.

    Maybe start by committing to sleep 7-8 hours per day and drink 8 glasses of water. Then two weeks later add a commitment to walk 10,000 steps per day. Then two weeks later start tracking your food intake. Etc.

    The comments from you that most concerns me is when you keep pointing to food as your coping mechanism. If you're sad, you eat. If you're stressed, you eat. Food is not the only coping mechanism. Yes, it's the one you've been using and it takes time and commitment to change that. If you do get a chance to talk to a specialist, I think they can help you with this. Food doesn't have to be the only solution you turn to. Ask other people what they do when they feel the feels. Try their strategies. Maybe one will work for you, too.
  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
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    Inglebert wrote: »
    Bang on with sleep comment though, and I'm trying to get more. Been using a Fitbit since June, which evidences what I already knew, I average 5-6 hours, targeting 7. This could make a huge difference shouldn't it? I also have a well-controlled underachieving thyroid, in fact probably slightly over-corrected I think at the moment. So this should not have an impact, but it is what kick-started my weight gain.

    I have a Fitbit + Hashimoto's (autoimmune thyroid disease). And I struggle to get enough sleep.

    Deprivation can lead to bingeing, so I eat "good" 80% of the time and fit yummy, portion-controlled treats into my calorie goal every day. Setting your goal too aggressively can also lead to bingeing. Your Fitbit burn is TDEE (total daily energy expenditure), the calories necessary to maintain your current weight. Set your goal to .5 lb. per week for every 25 lbs. you're overweight: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/change_goals_guided and enable negative calorie adjustments: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings

    This may sound naff (cheesy), but it helped me so much: Eliminate negative self-talk. Treat yourself at least as kindly as you would an MFP friend. When you binge, log it accurately & honestly—then let it go. Logging helps break the cycle of feel bad > eat too much > feel bad. Make a list of non-food ways to make yourself feel better. (Mine includes guilty pleasure TV, walking outdoors, and getting a massage.) Self-care is really important.
  • Inglebert
    Inglebert Posts: 39 Member
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    Thanks guys - wbb55 - I do more than that already, minimum of 10,000 steps a day, usually 13-15,000, over 20,000 once a week or so. I run 2-3 times a week (until I stop completely for a week or 2). Agree completely with coping comments, was really hoping to hear from people who were like me but grateful to hear from anyone.

    Editorgrrl, thanks for friend request, you seem really focused! Absolutely right that I need to talk positively to myself. I also need some really short term goal setting. I've never logged a binge properly, yet I've avoided having real life mfp friends so I can be honest in logging. I do need to break my dependence on the binge.

    Rest of life going well this week, so good to resolve and enact. We've booked for whole family to go to Latvia in May for half- marathon for husband, and 10k for the 3 girls and me. 2 of the girls keen (they do parkrun), 1 not so much. This is a challenge for me and I want to do it in reasonable style. So I have set myself an 8 week running prog to get 5k going better by the end of the year. My friend has started running recently so I need to use her to keep me going too! I've got her running and she's racing away with it! I'm committing yo logging properly this week too. Thank you!
  • ironhajee
    ironhajee Posts: 384 Member
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    I'm 180 lbs trying to get to 151lbs again
  • timeforwork
    timeforwork Posts: 114 Member
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    mindless snacking is also my problem so a few things that work for me most the time :) i know you said cleaning isn't a high priority for you but could you use it as a displacement activity instead of eating? so if your about to snack set yourself a goal to do x amount of hevy cleaning first, best case scenario it will take your mind off of food long enough to take you nearer to a meal time so you don't snack, worst case you clean then snack anyway but at least the cleaning burnt off a few calories and took a bit of time so you may only have 1 snack not 2! with regard to snacking in the car ,I make it a rule no food or drink in the car ( unless on the way back from the supermarket) so if I want to go and get a takeaway I have to park and walk in, often this is enough to stop me, if I fuel at the garage and buy and food I have to eat it before I get back in the car ect. a bit like a recovering alcoholic try not to put yourself in situations that you know will be hard so if walking the school run I cant take my wallet or I tend to stop at the shop for ice cream for the kids and me, no money no chance of stopping so the kids get theres when we get in and I only buy the ones im not keen on. hope you find ways to cope and improve it does take time but it can be done if you take it step by step and dont make a big deal over every slip up instead celebrate each snack you successfully avoid.
  • KittensMaster
    KittensMaster Posts: 748 Member
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    Seems you have a relationship with food that yields unhealthy behavior

    It is a "relationship" issue.

    Nothing to be embarrassed about. Lots have that sort of thing. Please consider talking with a professional to see how you can regain control of food

  • editorgrrl
    editorgrrl Posts: 7,060 Member
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    Inglebert wrote: »
    We've booked for whole family to go to Latvia in May for half-marathon for husband, and 10k for the 3 girls and me. 2 of the girls keen (they do parkrun), 1 not so much. This is a challenge for me and I want to do it in reasonable style.

    Like @KittensMaster, I think it's so important that you build a healthier relationship with food. Please be a healthy role model for your daughters! (I'm so grateful to my mother for keeping a vegetable garden, taking us to pick-your-own orchards and berry farms, and making us walk after dinner.)

    For me, the key was to get 100% honest with my logging. It took months—even though my diary was private. Like exercise, the more you do it the better you get at it. Logging is simple, but it ain't easy. Logging works.
  • Asher_Ethan
    Asher_Ethan Posts: 2,430 Member
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    9 times out of 10 when I'm hungry and binging, I'm really thirsty. I drink a glass of water and then re evaluate my hunger 30 minutes after. It's really helped me with my binge eating.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,996 Member
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    Therapy, exercise, and yoga have helped me tremendously with emotional eating.

    How Yoga Can Help End Binge Eating

    One breath at a time, end the suffering of binge-eating

    ...According to Juliano, yoga gives people the skills to stay with what they are feeling, rather than turning to food to escape. People who are obese or suffering from eating disorders have a tendency to dissociate from their bodies -- to choose not to feel what they are feeling when they are angry, anxious, or sad. Often, they turn to food to numb themselves. "There's this sense that I have to feel better right now, " Juliano says. "There is a complete intolerance of what is happening right now." This need to escape unpleasant feelings triggers a binge.

    When you eat to escape what you are feeling, you lose touch with the experience of eating, as well. This is one reason binges can spiral out of control. "You have no understanding that you are full, way past full, into uncomfortable, because you're so out of it," Juliano explains. "You have no connection to what you're eating. You're eating a pint of ice cream and can't even taste it. Or you go to make yourself some toast and before you know it, half the loaf is gone."

    Mindful yoga directly challenges the habit of dissociating from your body and your present-moment experience. "The whole point of yoga is to stay connected to your body. You learn it through practice, through breathing, and through breathing through the sensations."

    Read more: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-science-willpower/201007/how-yoga-can-help-end-binge-eating
  • The_Invisible_Boy
    The_Invisible_Boy Posts: 568 Member
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    I'm right there with ya Hun. I'm a big time binger and emotional eater. It's nothing for me to consume 15k+ calories on some days. My binges can be a single meal to sometimes weeks or even months. For me what helps is keeping my mind occupied. Whether it's cleaning, reading, working on my house, yard work etcetera. Pretty much anything that keeps the thoughts troubling me out of my head. Music helps too. I listen to a wide variety depending on my mood and head. Getting out in nature helps keep me grounded. I'm blessed to live fairly close to a beautiful park. I try at all costs to avoid trigger foods. I personally think my head will always be a hot mess.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 27,996 Member
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    Inglebert wrote: »
    ...So. I have been 'trying' to lose it over the years. Any of the ways I try work for about 8 hours then I overeat/binge. Every day.

    If you would make your diary public I could give you more meaningful feeback http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/diary_settings > Diary Sharing

    I'm wondering if you are restricting yourself too much in those first 8 hours and/or eating foods that do not satisfy you: http://www.nutrition.org.uk/healthyliving/fuller/understanding-satiety-feeling-full-after-a-meal.html