carb calories vs. protein calories
fruity_man
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are carb calories more important than calories coming from fat or protein?
say you have two foods-- one is slightly higher in calories, but those are mostly fat calories
the other one is lower in calories, (like 60) but higher in carbs
which is best for weight gain?is it always shoot for calories? i have enough fats and protein.
say you have two foods-- one is slightly higher in calories, but those are mostly fat calories
the other one is lower in calories, (like 60) but higher in carbs
which is best for weight gain?is it always shoot for calories? i have enough fats and protein.
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If you eat any more proteins and fats than your body needs, your body will convert the extra proteins and fats to into glucose (carbs).0
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Basically no calories are more important than other calories. It is all about getting the right mix of macro and micro nutrients for your body's needs and getting the right calorie number for your goals (weight loss, gain, maintenance, re composition, etc)0
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Basically no calories are more important than other calories. It is all about getting the right mix of macro and micro nutrients for your body's needs and getting the right calorie number for your goals (weight loss, gain, maintenance, re composition, etc)
Yep.
Once you address your basic requirements, you don't get extra credit for eating more.0 -
@leolibby233 you ask good questions and I think the answer can vary from person to person.
To cut my cancer risk from a pain management Rx Med I cut out sugars and grains on a hunch they may be triggering my pain. 30 days later my pain was managed better than any Rx meds ever did.
I never understood why I over ate carbs when I did not fats until now. I am still reading Wheat Belly Total Health (2014) where William Davis MD explains the science reasons very clearly.
In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them. I try to stay in nutritional ketosis so I have to watch my protein intake or the extra glucose will knock me out of ketosis as well as going over 50 grams of carbs daily. Currently I eat about 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fats.
Again this is not for the masses but it works for me after a year of eating this way. I had to go off the sugars and grains cold turkey because I was not successful at trying to taper off of them. The first two weeks was hellish in my case then the cravings for carbs just quickly faded. I think being 63 at the time with my health failing fast made it harder for me.
In time you will find what works for you by trial and error. Best of success whatever is your objective.0 -
No it doesn't!!! Going in a surplus will make you gain weight whether that be to much of anything.GaleHawkins wrote: »@leolibby233 you ask good questions and I think the answer can vary from person to person.
To cut my cancer risk from a pain management Rx Med I cut out sugars and grains on a hunch they may be triggering my pain. 30 days later my pain was managed better than any Rx meds ever did.
I never understood why I over ate carbs when I did not fats until now. I am still reading Wheat Belly Total Health (2014) where William Davis MD explains the science reasons very clearly.
In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them. I try to stay in nutritional ketosis so I have to watch my protein intake or the extra glucose will knock me out of ketosis as well as going over 50 grams of carbs daily. Currently I eat about 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fats.
Again this is not for the masses but it works for me after a year of eating this way. I had to go off the sugars and grains cold turkey because I was not successful at trying to taper off of them. The first two weeks was hellish in my case then the cravings for carbs just quickly faded. I think being 63 at the time with my health failing fast made it harder for me.
In time you will find what works for you by trial and error. Best of success whatever is your objective.
You say the same thing every time. LOL0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »@leolibby233 you ask good questions and I think the answer can vary from person to person.
To cut my cancer risk from a pain management Rx Med I cut out sugars and grains on a hunch they may be triggering my pain. 30 days later my pain was managed better than any Rx meds ever did.
I never understood why I over ate carbs when I did not fats until now. I am still reading Wheat Belly Total Health (2014) where William Davis MD explains the science reasons very clearly.
In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them. I try to stay in nutritional ketosis so I have to watch my protein intake or the extra glucose will knock me out of ketosis as well as going over 50 grams of carbs daily. Currently I eat about 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fats.
Again this is not for the masses but it works for me after a year of eating this way. I had to go off the sugars and grains cold turkey because I was not successful at trying to taper off of them. The first two weeks was hellish in my case then the cravings for carbs just quickly faded. I think being 63 at the time with my health failing fast made it harder for me.
In time you will find what works for you by trial and error. Best of success whatever is your objective.
No it doesn't!!! Going in a surplus will make you gain weight whether that be to much of anything.GaleHawkins wrote: »@leolibby233 you ask good questions and I think the answer can vary from person to person.
To cut my cancer risk from a pain management Rx Med I cut out sugars and grains on a hunch they may be triggering my pain. 30 days later my pain was managed better than any Rx meds ever did.
I never understood why I over ate carbs when I did not fats until now. I am still reading Wheat Belly Total Health (2014) where William Davis MD explains the science reasons very clearly.
In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them. I try to stay in nutritional ketosis so I have to watch my protein intake or the extra glucose will knock me out of ketosis as well as going over 50 grams of carbs daily. Currently I eat about 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fats.
Again this is not for the masses but it works for me after a year of eating this way. I had to go off the sugars and grains cold turkey because I was not successful at trying to taper off of them. The first two weeks was hellish in my case then the cravings for carbs just quickly faded. I think being 63 at the time with my health failing fast made it harder for me.
In time you will find what works for you by trial and error. Best of success whatever is your objective.
You say the same thing every time. LOL
Lol *insert anecdotal experience and say how carbs make me gain weight*
You gained weight because you ate too many calories.
Period.
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my understanding during a bulk is that you want to fill in rest off our macros with carbs because of the insulin spike that they produce, which signals your muscles to grow, provided that you are on a lifting program with progressive overload built into it…
for strictly weight gain calories are king.0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »@leolibby233 you ask good questions and I think the answer can vary from person to person.
To cut my cancer risk from a pain management Rx Med I cut out sugars and grains on a hunch they may be triggering my pain. 30 days later my pain was managed better than any Rx meds ever did.
I never understood why I over ate carbs when I did not fats until now. I am still reading Wheat Belly Total Health (2014) where William Davis MD explains the science reasons very clearly.
In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them. I try to stay in nutritional ketosis so I have to watch my protein intake or the extra glucose will knock me out of ketosis as well as going over 50 grams of carbs daily. Currently I eat about 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fats.
Again this is not for the masses but it works for me after a year of eating this way. I had to go off the sugars and grains cold turkey because I was not successful at trying to taper off of them. The first two weeks was hellish in my case then the cravings for carbs just quickly faded. I think being 63 at the time with my health failing fast made it harder for me.
In time you will find what works for you by trial and error. Best of success whatever is your objective.
this answer has nothing to do with OP's question ….
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OP - are you trying to just gain weight or are you trying to add muscle?0
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As calories, they are all the same. 1 cal of carbs = 1 cal or protein = 1 cal of fat. This is because calories are a measure of energy, not a nutrient.
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leolibby233 wrote: »weight. I'm 100 pounds (110 in my picture) I'm short
then just eat in a caloric surplus and don't worry about macros so much.
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and please stop posting multiple threads in this forum asking the same questions.
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Eat carbs in a calorie surplus! Fats and protein can get you into a surplus, but it's a lot easier on carbs (or a carbs/fat combination).0
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GaleHawkins wrote: »@leolibby233 you ask good questions and I think the answer can vary from person to person.
To cut my cancer risk from a pain management Rx Med I cut out sugars and grains on a hunch they may be triggering my pain. 30 days later my pain was managed better than any Rx meds ever did.
I never understood why I over ate carbs when I did not fats until now. I am still reading Wheat Belly Total Health (2014) where William Davis MD explains the science reasons very clearly.
In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them. I try to stay in nutritional ketosis so I have to watch my protein intake or the extra glucose will knock me out of ketosis as well as going over 50 grams of carbs daily. Currently I eat about 5% carbs, 15% protein and 80% fats.
Again this is not for the masses but it works for me after a year of eating this way. I had to go off the sugars and grains cold turkey because I was not successful at trying to taper off of them. The first two weeks was hellish in my case then the cravings for carbs just quickly faded. I think being 63 at the time with my health failing fast made it harder for me.
In time you will find what works for you by trial and error. Best of success whatever is your objective.
this answer has nothing to do with OP's question ….
He mentions his story whenever he can...and I think the key to his "carbs made me fat" story lie in ONE line:
In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them
Carbs doesn't make you fat, lack of control does.0 -
If you're trying to gain weight, you need to have the right percentage of each fat, carb and protein. Without getting to in to detail, since I'm assuming you already know Ramen and such are crap calories, 50% carbs and 25% fat and protein is a good place to start and adjust. So if you're eating 3600 calories a day, 1800(50%) of your calories should come in carb, sweet potato, quinoa, oatmeal etc0
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leolibby233 wrote: »I'm at 55% carbs and 30% fat and 15% protein (sedentary). I'm getting great results. .. and I do mention my story whenever I can. I'm not asking for help.. i'm offering my advice to those who need it. this is a public forum.
That quote about 'mentioning his story' wasn't about you. Look at the embedded quoted text.
PS it helps to try to not read things in a negative context on the internet.0 -
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Nice edit.0
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leolibby233 wrote: »
You are right . I apologize. "In my personal case carbs leads to weight gains because I can not ever get satisfied and keep eating and eating them"blankiefinder wrote: »leolibby233 wrote: »I'm at 55% carbs and 30% fat and 15% protein (sedentary). I'm getting great results. .. and I do mention my story whenever I can. I'm not asking for help.. i'm offering my advice to those who need it. this is a public forum.
That quote about 'mentioning his story' wasn't about you. Look at the embedded quoted text.
PS it helps to try to not read things in a negative context on the internet.
lack of protein can cause sugar cravings.
No problem. Just an FYI for anyone who might be lurking and not already know, you can click on >>show previous quotes to see the chain that someone is replying to.0 -
leolibby233 wrote: »I'm at 55% carbs and 30% fat and 15% protein (sedentary). I'm getting great results. .. and I do mention my story whenever I can. I'm not asking for help.. i'm offering my advice to those who need it. this is a public forum. [edited by MFP mod]
Even if you are sedentary, it may be beneficial to add in more protein, especially for satiety.
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tennisdude2004 wrote: »Eat carbs in a calorie surplus! Fats and protein can get you into a surplus, but it's a lot easier on carbs (or a carbs/fat combination).
Funny enough, when I transition to maintenance or to a bulk, I dont increase carbs but rather use fats as my upper.0
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