Too much protein bad ONLY for people with kidney problem?
elga_thres
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Hi, everyone! There are so many debates about protein intake and I'm confused. Is too much protein bad for all people or just the ones who have kidney problem? Is 1 g protein/lb of bodyweight is a myth? I was given a meal plan by my personal trainer. The meal plan consists of high protein food (I notice when I log in MyFitnessPal that the protein takes up 30%-35% of my daily calorie intake). I consume 80-ish sometimes 90 g of protein (if MFP database is accurate). I obtain protein both from plants (I LOVE TEMPEH) and lean meat. I do strength training (using bodyweight and free weights) and muay thai/ boxing as cardio (with conditioning). I do drink a lot of water. Should I be concern?
my stats:
weight: around 112
height: 4'11"
Thank you! ☺
my stats:
weight: around 112
height: 4'11"
Thank you! ☺
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I say it should not be an issue. People live off much higher protein than that (look at Atkins diets and similar).
I am shooting for 1g/lb as well (just started lifting again). That will put me around 170 g per day. And with my recent reading about sat fat and cholesterol, I am not concerned.
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I'll give you my personal experience, and this is coming from someone who has packed on 20lbs in a year while maintaining 10% body fat.
It did not matter if I ate 100g of protein or 250g. The results were the same.
I weigh around 165 right now and target myself around 150g a day.
While I could only eat 100 and produce the same results, as long as my carbs and fats don't get too high.
My protein intake is around 25% and I try to drink a gallon to a gallon half a day.0 -
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"Too much" is bad by definition.
It doesn't sound like the amount of protein you're eating would be a problem.0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »"Too much" is bad by definition.
It doesn't sound like the amount of protein you're eating would be a problem.
This. Someone with kidney problems would have a lower threshold for what too much is.
What you are eating doesn't sound all that high unless you have a health issue. I am 5'3 and regularly eat as much as 130 g (although my goal is lower).0 -
Thank you for all your responses!!☺ Just one more question is your protein intake on rest days the same as workout days?0
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elga_thres wrote: »Thank you for all your responses!!☺ Just one more question is your protein intake on rest days the same as workout days?
It should within the same range every day.
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My personal trainer has me at 255g a day. I'm dropping wieght and building muscle quick. I just started a little over a month and a half ago. Started at 355 and now down to 2970
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lowforshow2002 wrote: »My personal trainer has me at 255g a day. I'm dropping wieght and building muscle quick. I just started a little over a month and a half ago. Started at 355 and now down to 297
How do you know your building muscle and losing weight simultaneously?
Curious.
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Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.0 -
You are only slightly high, although to calculate actual personal max, it would be 1 gram for every pound of lean mass per day.0
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Current recommendations for protein intake are to eat no more than about two servings of pure protein (meat, fish, chicken, etc.) a week if you are interested in longevity. Americans eat too much protein.
(Don't debate with me - this is my opinion based on my research. State your own opinions without putting other people down.)0 -
Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QSMzeSvxk
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I believe that 30-35% is not a problem but eating high levels of protein over time can cause kidney problems. So i would indeed stick with the 1g per kilogram of body weight as that is the recommended amount. And it is kilogram not pound of body weight. High protein might be something like 50% but you can google "how much is too much protein"
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Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.
Thank you! I do love fish, chicken and egg, but I'm not a fanatic. I will lower my protein intake if science says it's too much.0 -
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QSMzeSvxk
This video is hilarious! Hahahaha
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That was pretty funny. Always good to poke fun at yourself.IsaackGMOON wrote: »Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2QSMzeSvxk
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elga_thres wrote: »Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.
Thank you! I do love fish, chicken and egg, but I'm not a fanatic. I will lower my protein intake if science says it's too much.
Not too high -- just more than the minimum
There are benefits to eating more than the minimum, especially if one is losing weight.
For me, not losing muscle is a big deal.0 -
Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.
Yes this! In my honest opinion many people consume too much protein for their size.
0.8g/kg is perfectly fine for someone losing small to moderate amounts of weight (<40lbs) and who have a history of some type of physical activity and is still currently active. Where slightly more does seem to come into play is for those losing larger amounts of weight who don't regularly work out, because their at greatest risk for losing muscle mass.
Athletes who are conditioned to their activity are less likely to lose muscle if they under eat temporarily because the body is efficient, practiced, and can compensate.
You seem like you're getting enough for your size and aren't at risk of the latter.0 -
I'm 5'1 108lbs and probably avg around 110-130g protein a day, not because I'm trying to, its just how I end up when I eat what I want. Hasnt hurt me in any way0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »elga_thres wrote: »Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.
Thank you! I do love fish, chicken and egg, but I'm not a fanatic. I will lower my protein intake if science says it's too much.
Not too high -- just more than the minimum
There are benefits to eating more than the minimum, especially if one is losing weight.
For me, not losing muscle is a big deal.
I agree. I don't have a lot of muscle, so losing muscle is not a good thing. That means I have to eat even less.0 -
Leslierussell4134 wrote: »Trainers and many MFP people are huge fans of protein. They like to eat the maximum amount that could possibly do anyone any good and some like to eat even more than that. If that's what they (or you) like, that's great! I totally support the choice.
The 1g/pound/day is repeated a lot but is probably overkill. More is not always better.
The general recommendation is .8g/kg of healthy body weight/day. That doesn't include all the weight coming from fat, so if you're 50 kilos overweight, you don't add that in when coming up with a number, technically. However, if you're 50 kilos over, you're going to need more energy, so those calories have to come from somewhere and part of it will be protein.
A little more than the.8g/kg of healthy body weight/day (and some weight lifting) may help you lose less muscle as you lose weight. The massive amounts advised by many trainers are not necessary for most of us. Professional athletes probably wouldn't even benefit from the advice these trainers give, much less your typical 40 year old woman who wants to lose 40 pounds.
If you don't want to eat all that protein, don't worry about it. If you do, have fun. I don't know how much is "too much" for you and cannot speak to that. Only your doctor can answer that.
Yes this! In my honest opinion many people consume too much protein for their size.
0.8g/kg is perfectly fine for someone losing small to moderate amounts of weight (<40lbs) and who have a history of some type of physical activity and is still currently active. Where slightly more does seem to come into play is for those losing larger amounts of weight who don't regularly work out, because their at greatest risk for losing muscle mass.
Athletes who are conditioned to their activity are less likely to lose muscle if they under eat temporarily because the body is efficient, practiced, and can compensate.
You seem like you're getting enough for your size and aren't at risk of the latter.
Hi, thanks for your response. Yes, I'm getting enough (even some people say I'm getting more than enough). But I'm a bit confused here. Don't the ones who doesn't workout regularly need less protein? Athletes or active people need more because they tear their muscle when working out? Could you explain it to me?0 -
That is correct. Here's a good source, with links to the research: http://examine.com/faq/how-much-protein-do-i-need-every-day/If you are an athlete or highly active person currently attempting to lose body fat while preserving lean muscle mass, a daily intake of 1.5-2.2g/kg bodyweight (0.68-1g/lb bodyweight) would be a good target.
If you are an athlete or highly active person, or you are attempting to lose body fat while preserving lean mass, then a daily intake of 1.0-1.5g/kg bodyweight (0.45-0.68g/lb bodyweight) would be a good target.
(Emphasis added.)
Also:According to the International Society of Sports Nutrition, protein intakes of 1.4-2.0 g/kg of bodyweight (0.6-0.9g/lb of bodyweight) for physically active individuals is not only safe, but may improve the training adaptations to exercise training. The American Dietetic Association, Dietitians of Canada, and the American College of Sports Medicine also support high protein intake for active individuals in the range of 1.2-1.7 g/kg of bodyweight (0.5-0.8 g/lb of bodyweight).
The reasons for the above tend to be increased leucine oxidation (a marker for amino acids being used for fuel, by being turned into glucose) that requires a higher intake of amino acids to negate and preserve nitrogen balance. Additionally, increasing protein intake above the previously defined RDA 'daily allowance' will increase protein synthesis and, at levels higher than double this total, decrease protein breakdown. Increased muscular hypertrophy is seen as beneficial to sports performance.
During Weight Loss
High protein diets have been found to preserve lean body mass when dieting in both obese people and athletes and has also been shown to improve overall body composition. A doubling of protein intake from 0.9g/kg (near the daily recommended intake for the general population) to 1.8g/kg is able to preserve lean muscle mass during short-term and relatively drastic drops in calories.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »That is correct. Here's a good source, with links to the research: http://examine.com/faq/how-much-protein-do-i-need-every-day/If you are an athlete or highly active person currently attempting to lose body fat while preserving lean muscle mass, a daily intake of 1.5-2.2g/kg bodyweight (0.68-1g/lb bodyweight) would be a good target.
If you are an athlete or highly active person, or you are attempting to lose body fat while preserving lean mass, then a daily intake of 1.0-1.5g/kg bodyweight (0.45-0.68g/lb bodyweight) would be a good target.
(Emphasis added.)
Also:According to the International Society of Sports Nutrition, protein intakes of 1.4-2.0 g/kg of bodyweight (0.6-0.9g/lb of bodyweight) for physically active individuals is not only safe, but may improve the training adaptations to exercise training. The American Dietetic Association, Dietitians of Canada, and the American College of Sports Medicine also support high protein intake for active individuals in the range of 1.2-1.7 g/kg of bodyweight (0.5-0.8 g/lb of bodyweight).
The reasons for the above tend to be increased leucine oxidation (a marker for amino acids being used for fuel, by being turned into glucose) that requires a higher intake of amino acids to negate and preserve nitrogen balance. Additionally, increasing protein intake above the previously defined RDA 'daily allowance' will increase protein synthesis and, at levels higher than double this total, decrease protein breakdown. Increased muscular hypertrophy is seen as beneficial to sports performance.
During Weight Loss
High protein diets have been found to preserve lean body mass when dieting in both obese people and athletes and has also been shown to improve overall body composition. A doubling of protein intake from 0.9g/kg (near the daily recommended intake for the general population) to 1.8g/kg is able to preserve lean muscle mass during short-term and relatively drastic drops in calories.
Oh I see... Thank you!0 -
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Any more recent studies.. there has been a lot of changes in testing since 1998.catscats222 wrote: »too much protein can deplete the calcium in your body
leading to osteoporosis
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/6/1051.full
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yes, too much protien can be bad for the kidneys. even for people who don't have preexisting kidney issues. But i think your intake is fine
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For me it's almost a moot point since to "OD" on protein would take a lot of willpower and a big check book. I've been attempting to get 1g per lb of bodyweight, about 150g per day,,,,,,,,,,,,it's very challenging even if I have that much protein laying around my house.0
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tayloralanj wrote: »For me it's almost a moot point since to "OD" on protein would take a lot of willpower and a big check book. I've been attempting to get 1g per lb of bodyweight, about 150g per day,,,,,,,,,,,,it's very challenging even if I have that much protein laying around my house.
0.82g of protein per lb of body mass is fine...0
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