What on earth: Liquid measurements for grapes

If you're not drinking your grapes, you're doing it wrong.

I think this was the not-so-intended result of MFP's idea to convert serving sizes automatically from cups to milliliters when a user creates a food item, regardless whether the conversion passes the "common sense" test. In your example, I guess the package of grapes provided nutrition information in a measurement of cups, most likely with grams in parentheses; however, the user that created the entry used only the 1 cup serving size and that measurement got converted to milliliters automatically by the software algorithm.

Breaking News We are in the process of rolling out a major update to our serving size behavior in our Android, iOS and Web apps. This update will allow automatic conversion between units of measure. For example, foods created in ounces will be measurable in grams, and foods created in cups will be measurable in liters). We will update the article below when the rollout of this feature is complete.
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https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/en/portal/articles/300068-the-serving-size-i-need-to-log-is-not-available-

I think MFP is saying to drink more wine.

Yeah, sometimes you really have to dig around for good entries or enter them yourself. It bothers me when I scan a barcode or search up a food in the database and see a half-assed entry tied to it. The way I see it, if someone is going to submit a food and share their submission with other MFP members, they should make sure it's as accurate as possible. I hate seeing things like "chobni grek youguert (Sam's) - vanilla" and it's fraught with spelling errors, the wrong unit(s) of measure are listed, and/or only the calories are included. For fruits and vegetables, always search "fruit/vegetable name usda"; I find those entries are the best and I often compare a few of them to make sure the calorie count is correct.

synacious wrote: »

Yeah, sometimes you really have to dig around for good entries or enter them yourself. It bothers me when I scan a barcode or search up a food in the database and see a half-assed entry tied to it. The way I see it, if someone is going to submit a food and share their submission with other MFP members, they should make sure it's as accurate as possible. I hate seeing things like "chobni grek youguert (Sam's) - vanilla" and it's fraught with spelling errors, the wrong unit(s) of measure are listed, and/or only the calories are included. For fruits and vegetables, always search "fruit/vegetable name usda"; I find those entries are the best and I often compare a few of them to make sure the calorie count is correct.

Since I use the app almost exclusively, I try to go back and edit crappy entries that are tied to a scanned barcode.

FYI for anyone, the author @SezxyStef covers how to do that here. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1

Kalikel wrote: »

I've never heard of measuring grapes as a liquid before. I don't *think* it's the American way.

USDA entries are my personal favorites. Sometimes I have to make calorie adjustments, but they give you better info on your micros, so I use those when I can.

It's a pain in the butt, though. I have yet to find frozen raspberries. All the other berries, I can find the frozen version, but not the rasp ones. Maybe it's my fault - it could be there and I can't find it. But it really IS tough to use.

As explained in some earlier posts above, they just mean the idea of cups measurement, in general. And now MFP has a "helpful" update where they can basically click a button and add all the conversions for any verified food. So if the measurement unit entered was cups (liquids), they'll automatically add ml, fl oz, liters, etc for you. If it was in grams (solid), they'll add lbs, kg, oz, 100g, etc

Experiment. Liquify how many it would take.

DoingTheNeedful wrote: »

So why on earth do all the "verified" entries for frigging grapes give liquid measurements? What am I going to do, pulp them and drink it?

If it helps, millilitres and grams are freely convertable: 1ml = 1g. So 237ml is 237g.

The "verified" entries are riddled with errors. When in doubt, search multiple entries on MFP or double-check against other calorie databases altogether. MFP's database is huge, but the noise-to-signal ratio is so high that it's frequently unreliable.

flaminica wrote: »

DoingTheNeedful wrote: »

So why on earth do all the "verified" entries for frigging grapes give liquid measurements? What am I going to do, pulp them and drink it?

If it helps, millilitres and grams are freely convertable: 1ml = 1g. So 237ml is 237g.

The "verified" entries are riddled with errors. When in doubt, search multiple entries on MFP or double-check against other calorie databases altogether. MFP's database is huge, but the noise-to-signal ratio is so high that it's frequently unreliable.

That's only true for water or substances with the same density as water. 237 ml of water is 237 g. 250 ml of grapes are only 157 g (at least for the variety of grapes I have on hand, an oblong variety called moondrop).

DoingTheNeedful wrote: »

Yeah, tracking down the USDA entry I want is hit or miss. Sometimes I can search for something-USDA and it'll hit, or not. I'll remember to try "grapes, raw" next time. Anything would be a damn sight better than searching for grapes and getting "Gatorade, grape drank" or whatever

"grape drank" LOL...Love! Thanks for making me chuckle!