Juicing, AGAIN

ttfnweight
ttfnweight Posts: 202 Member
edited November 25 in Food and Nutrition
Question: do juicing veggies versus fruit matter enough? I know veggies have a bit less sugar but is it similar when juiced? I know eating the fruit itself is always the best , so is it the same with veggies? Thanks in advance.
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  • PrizePopple
    PrizePopple Posts: 3,133 Member
    Juicing them means you lose the fiber, also you lose the whole process of chewing them (which is where the digestion process starts). I personally need that fiber being on a medically advised high fiber diet, and the process of chewing food is part of what helps me feel satisfied. You could juice and drink 2 dozen carrots, but after chewing that many you'd be like "nope, done, jaw hurts". :P
  • ttfnweight
    ttfnweight Posts: 202 Member
    Ok. Yes I can see that.
  • LaineyVAhimsa
    LaineyVAhimsa Posts: 28 Member
    With juicing you lose some fibre, but its fine to do it. You should try and have greens in your juice :).
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    OP, can I ask why you want to juice in the first place?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    edited October 2015
    Whole veggies and fruits have fiber but when you use a juicer all the healthy fiber is lost.

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/juicing/faq-20058020
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    OP, can I ask why you want to juice in the first place?

    Wondering the same
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    ttfnweight wrote: »
    Question: do juicing veggies versus fruit matter enough? I know veggies have a bit less sugar but is it similar when juiced? I know eating the fruit itself is always the best , so is it the same with veggies? Thanks in advance.

    Juicing doesn't matter.

    Unless you like drinking your food particularly or like juice once in a while in which case go with your taste buds

    As long as you hit your macro and micro nutrients it really doesn't matter if you're chewing or drinking ..and more than your requirement is of no further benefit

    But as a 'weightloss' method ..it's a pointless media driven fad
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    ttfnweight wrote: »
    Question: do juicing veggies versus fruit matter enough? I know veggies have a bit less sugar but is it similar when juiced? I know eating the fruit itself is always the best , so is it the same with veggies? Thanks in advance.

    Juicing doesn't matter.

    Unless you like drinking your food particularly or like juice once in a while in which case go with your taste buds

    As long as you hit your macro and micro nutrients it really doesn't matter if you're chewing or drinking ..and more than your requirement is of no further benefit

    But as a 'weightloss' method ..it's a pointless media driven fad

    This. If you want some juice, make it and drink it. There is no magic in juicing.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    shell1005 wrote: »
    Some of the newer version of juicing is using the Ninja Bullet type things that use an emulsion method which mixes up the fruits and veggies, but doesn't separate out the fiber. Those methods are better IMO than the old method where you got the juice, but none of that wonderful fiber.

    However, also IMO, I still prefer to eat the actual fruits and vegetables. As the lovely @prizepopple said upthread, it is about volume for me. I can juice a bunch of apples and drink them down in about 30 seconds. However if I am eating an apple, I am totally satisfied after eating a single apple, maybe two if I am super hungry. The idea of being able to just slurp down that many calories in such a quick period of time...well, it's no bueno to me.

    I don't think juicing is bad as a supplement to someone's diet, but I do tend to side eye all those weight loss plans which are basically juicing and juicing alone.

    My boss loves the bullet type ninja for that same reason: he likes smoothies but wants to keep the fiber.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    I'm starting juicing tomorrow, a lot of ppl seem to be hating on it but I have found it amazing for weight loss and health.
  • SbetaK
    SbetaK Posts: 398 Member
    I tried a juicer for awhile as a once daily "meal", and took the extruded fiber and mixed it later into omlettes, muffins, chili, soups and stews as as to still benefit from the fiber.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    I'm starting juicing tomorrow, a lot of ppl seem to be hating on it but I have found it amazing for weight loss and health.

    Really? In what way?

    It boils down to calories...if drinking your calories helps you stick to them then fine, and I suppose you will juice for life. Great if that's how you want to live
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    Well firstly I lost 3 stone... I did not get one cold/flu or bug for 6 months (over winter) my dry skin disappeared and I felt great in general. (Juiced for 60 days straight) I was drinking 3-5 pints of juice a day, usually just 3 and more when I was doing more exercise. It also had the weird effect making me want to cook and eat good food. It sort of reset my food "addictions" and urges. I must point out I kept it all off for 7months until I went on holiday and then slowly put most of it back on.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Well firstly I lost 3 stone... I did not get one cold/flu or bug for 6 months (over winter) my dry skin disappeared and I felt great in general. (Juiced for 60 days straight) I was drinking 3-5 pints of juice a day, usually just 3 and more when I was doing more exercise. It also had the weird effect making me want to cook and eat good food. It sort of reset my food "addictions" and urges. I must point out I kept it all off for 7months until I went on holiday and then slowly put most of it back on.

    So you didn't keep it off then..that's a shame

    You would have the same effects from a balanced nutritious diet and exercise and would have more chance of adjusting your eating habits for life
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you didn't keep it off then..that's a shame

    You would have the same effects from a balanced nutritious diet and exercise and would have more chance of adjusting your eating habits for life
    Kept it off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into bad habits.. Hoping this time I have learned..
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you didn't keep it off then..that's a shame

    You would have the same effects from a balanced nutritious diet and exercise and would have more chance of adjusting your eating habits for life
    Kept it off for 7 months then went on holiday and got back into bad habits.. Hoping this time I have learned..

    Just realised that's you in the juice detox thread too...didn't realise same poster

    If you didn't learn last time what will you do differently this time?
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    Yes it's me :)
    I learned a lot last time, and I have done things both ways, lost lots with juice and lots lots with diet/exercise, my problem seems to be I fall into bad habits again, I was doing so well last time and know the exact point/event that put me off course so I hope this time I have learned and can spot things early if I do fall off the horse.s
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
    blitz wrote:
    (Juiced for 60 days straight) ... had the weird effect making me want to cook and eat good food. It sort of reset my food "addictions" and urges. I must point out I kept it all off for 7months until I went on holiday and then slowly put most of it back on.
    Well, if you're having nothing but pureed (or worse, juiced) fruits & veggies for 2 months, it doesn't seem at all
    strange to me that you'd be wanting real food!

    And since you didn't use that time away from food to learn how much you should be eating, and how to have
    meals that satisfy while fitting your calorie needs, of course once you went back to eating the way you were used
    to you regained the weight.

    Hopefully you'll give up on pureeing food, and just eat sensibly.
    That's something you can do for the rest of your life... which is what it's going to take to keep off any weight
    you manage to lose.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Yes it's me :)
    I learned a lot last time, and I have done things both ways, lost lots with juice and lots lots with diet/exercise, my problem seems to be I fall into bad habits again, I was doing so well last time and know the exact point/event that put me off course so I hope this time I have learned and can spot things early if I do fall off the horse.s

    That's just the problem. How can you set up good habits if you're juicing? Unless you can juice for life? Isn't it better to eat normally, and stay within your calorie goals, learn the correct portion size for you, follow your macros and get enough nutrients etc? You're wasting valuable time with a quick fix. It isn't lasting. In about a year please come back and let us know if this time--the weight stayed off.
  • ttfnweight
    ttfnweight Posts: 202 Member
    OP, can I ask why you want to juice in the first place?

    My husband is juicing for himself and will make one for me and since I drink it I need to count it. I also know fruit juice is not the best that you're better off EATING the fruit instead, but I wasn't sure about veggie juice.
  • ttfnweight
    ttfnweight Posts: 202 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Yes it's me :)
    I learned a lot last time, and I have done things both ways, lost lots with juice and lots lots with diet/exercise, my problem seems to be I fall into bad habits again, I was doing so well last time and know the exact point/event that put me off course so I hope this time I have learned and can spot things early if I do fall off the horse.s

    That's just the problem. How can you set up good habits if you're juicing? Unless you can juice for life? Isn't it better to eat normally, and stay within your calorie goals, learn the correct portion size for you, follow your macros and get enough nutrients etc? You're wasting valuable time with a quick fix. It isn't lasting. In about a year please come back and let us know if this time--the weight stayed off.

    I only want to drink it for taste. I've tried the whole liquid diet thing and couldn't do it. I want to drink it for the vitamins. Nutrient value. Etc. not to lose. I watch CICO for that.
  • ttfnweight
    ttfnweight Posts: 202 Member
    I was mostly concern about the spike in blood sugar. Yes even from veggies. Just want to keep it clean and healthy.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    ttfnweight wrote: »
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Yes it's me :)
    I learned a lot last time, and I have done things both ways, lost lots with juice and lots lots with diet/exercise, my problem seems to be I fall into bad habits again, I was doing so well last time and know the exact point/event that put me off course so I hope this time I have learned and can spot things early if I do fall off the horse.s

    That's just the problem. How can you set up good habits if you're juicing? Unless you can juice for life? Isn't it better to eat normally, and stay within your calorie goals, learn the correct portion size for you, follow your macros and get enough nutrients etc? You're wasting valuable time with a quick fix. It isn't lasting. In about a year please come back and let us know if this time--the weight stayed off.

    I only want to drink it for taste. I've tried the whole liquid diet thing and couldn't do it. I want to drink it for the vitamins. Nutrient value. Etc. not to lose. I watch CICO for that.

    Sounds fine. Like you mentioned at first, veggies will have less sugar than fruit, but as far as I know, most people prefer at least some fruit in their juices to make it taste better. There should be tons of recipes online. And I'm not sure how to count the calories, but I'd just go by how much fruit you put in it.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    Hi OP, I'm starting juicing tomorrow, what juicer do u have?
  • ttfnweight
    ttfnweight Posts: 202 Member
    blitz2011 wrote: »
    Hi OP, I'm starting juicing tomorrow, what juicer do u have?

    Juice man juicer.
  • blitz2011
    blitz2011 Posts: 58 Member
    I have a braun j500, wish it removed more of the pulp, it's good but if it broke I would not get another one.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    ttfnweight wrote: »
    OP, can I ask why you want to juice in the first place?

    My husband is juicing for himself and will make one for me and since I drink it I need to count it. I also know fruit juice is not the best that you're better off EATING the fruit instead, but I wasn't sure about veggie juice.

    Fruit juice can be pretty high cal and not filling, which is why whole fruit is better (also fiber). Vegetable juice is probably much lower cal -- add it up and see what's in the juice you are talking about -- and as such I think a better addition to a diet, although I'd eat whole vegetables too, of course. (I don't think there's anything wrong with fruit juice if you really like it, although I avoid drinking calories so don't drink it.)
  • ttfnweight
    ttfnweight Posts: 202 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    ttfnweight wrote: »
    OP, can I ask why you want to juice in the first place?

    My husband is juicing for himself and will make one for me and since I drink it I need to count it. I also know fruit juice is not the best that you're better off EATING the fruit instead, but I wasn't sure about veggie juice.

    Fruit juice can be pretty high cal and not filling, which is why whole fruit is better (also fiber). Vegetable juice is probably much lower cal -- add it up and see what's in the juice you are talking about -- and as such I think a better addition to a diet, although I'd eat whole vegetables too, of course. (I don't think there's anything wrong with fruit juice if you really like it, although I avoid drinking calories so don't drink it.)

    I rarely, and when I say rarely it's more like never drink fruit juices as they are equivalent to soda, which I also don't drink. But I juice beets, carrot, celery, cucumbers, lime, spinach a half orange half Apple.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    Since you're also going to be *eating food* I don't see an issue with a veggie smoothie. It's when juicing becomes your ONLY source of nutrition in a day that problems occur. :)
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