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GillianSmith2
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I have daily a calorie goal of 1260,
today i ate 1281 calories
but my exercise calories are 1151 from 1 hour walking and 1 hour kickboxing.
I am not hungry at all.
Should I be eating more?
Advice needed please
today i ate 1281 calories
but my exercise calories are 1151 from 1 hour walking and 1 hour kickboxing.
I am not hungry at all.
Should I be eating more?
Advice needed please
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If you're not hungry, don't eat. But if you get hungry, allow yourself to eat a few hundred of those exercise calories back. Maybe some souo? Filling but buy still calorie conscious0
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rosebarnalice wrote: »If you're not hungry, don't eat. But if you get hungry, allow yourself to eat a few hundred of those exercise calories back. Maybe some souo? Filling but buy still calorie conscious
thank you, i wasnt sure if i should be eating more or not.0 -
How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.0
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On any days where you are doing 2 hours of intense exercise like that I would suggest eating 500 calories back. You need to fuel your workouts or you will eventually hit the wall.0
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How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.
This is the question. My hour of kickboxing is under 600 cal. An hour of walking is not going to be another 500. If you are getting those burns from MFP, they are very likely overestimates. Personally, I wouldn't eat back more than 50%. If you aren't hungry today, saving a few for the weekend is a great idea!0 -
I would be eating some of those calories back. 1200 is on the low end of intake and you did do 2 hours of activity. I don't think the burn would be anywhere near 1000 calories though.
I don't know your weight but I would probably look at around 300-400 calories, tops.0 -
That burn sounds very high. Prime example of why most only eat back a portion of their exercise calories. Yes, you should be eating back half of your exercise calories.0
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I seriously doubt 1hr of walking and 1hr of kickboxing equals >1000 calories.
I would personally "eat back" maybe half of those calories, to fuel my workout tomorrow. But i SERIOUSLY doubt those are actually equal to >1000 calories. 800, maybe at most.0 -
The burn for kickboxing is from mfp which is why I tend not to eat them back. I don't think its anywhere near accurate although i must say that in our kickboxing we don't mess about, it is a very intense class. And the walking is on a treadmill so both the machine and mfp do tend to match up ???
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nutmegoreo wrote: »How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.
This is the question. My hour of kickboxing is under 600 cal. An hour of walking is not going to be another 500. If you are getting those burns from MFP, they are very likely overestimates. Personally, I wouldn't eat back more than 50%. If you aren't hungry today, saving a few for the weekend is a great idea!
How did you find out your burn for kickboxing please? 0 -
The estimated burn is probably too high, so, if you intend to eat some of those calories, be sure not to eat more than 50-75%.
If you are not hungry today you can eat more tomorrow or Sunday.0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »The burn for kickboxing is from mfp which is why I tend not to eat them back. I don't think its anywhere near accurate although i must say that in our kickboxing we don't mess about, it is a very intense class. And the walking is on a treadmill so both the machine and mfp do tend to match up ???
I'm not saying the class doesn't work you hard. I'm just suggesting to be wary of online calculators and cardio machines exaggerating your burn. I PERSONALLY use a FitBit and long term data of loss/gain vs. food intake to estimate my own calories burned doing activities.
Under eating today may lead to poorer performance and less effort put into your workout tomorrow. If you want to maintain a high level of performance, I do recommend eating back about half of those exercise calories. But if you're not hungry and you're objectively not decreasing performance in your exercise, then no, you don't have to eat more.0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »The burn for kickboxing is from mfp which is why I tend not to eat them back. I don't think its anywhere near accurate although i must say that in our kickboxing we don't mess about, it is a very intense class. And the walking is on a treadmill so both the machine and mfp do tend to match up ???
I'm not saying the class doesn't work you hard. I'm just suggesting to be wary of online calculators and cardio machines exaggerating your burn. I PERSONALLY use a FitBit and long term data of loss/gain vs. food intake to estimate my own calories burned doing activities.
Under eating today may lead to poorer performance and less effort put into your workout tomorrow. If you want to maintain a high level of performance, I do recommend eating back about half of those exercise calories. But if you're not hungry and you're objectively not decreasing performance in your exercise, then no, you don't have to eat more.
Thank you for your advice, I'm only on day 21 and all advice is much appreciated.I'm hoping to get a fitbit for Christmas so this should help even things out. I did a class this morning with a new member and it was more like a 1 hour warm up session so I haven't got a clue what to put for that on my daily log?0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »The burn for kickboxing is from mfp which is why I tend not to eat them back. I don't think its anywhere near accurate although i must say that in our kickboxing we don't mess about, it is a very intense class. And the walking is on a treadmill so both the machine and mfp do tend to match up ???
I'm not saying the class doesn't work you hard. I'm just suggesting to be wary of online calculators and cardio machines exaggerating your burn. I PERSONALLY use a FitBit and long term data of loss/gain vs. food intake to estimate my own calories burned doing activities.
Under eating today may lead to poorer performance and less effort put into your workout tomorrow. If you want to maintain a high level of performance, I do recommend eating back about half of those exercise calories. But if you're not hungry and you're objectively not decreasing performance in your exercise, then no, you don't have to eat more.
Thank you for your advice, I'm only on day 21 and all advice is much appreciated.I'm hoping to get a fitbit for Christmas so this should help even things out. I did a class this morning with a new member and it was more like a 1 hour warm up session so I haven't got a clue what to put for that on my daily log?
I personally equate a class to walking/jogging/running/sprints. Did the hour feel like an hour of jogging (as in how many moments were you out of breath, could you still talk to partners the whole time)? How much time were you bent over with your hands on your knees recovering from 100% exertion and feeling like you're about to throw up from the adrenaline? Did you at any point reach your "second wind." If you never "exerted" yourself or reached second wind, then walking or jogging for the equivalent time is what I PERSONALLY use (and still only eat back half).
How much weight have you lost in 21 days?0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »The burn for kickboxing is from mfp which is why I tend not to eat them back. I don't think its anywhere near accurate although i must say that in our kickboxing we don't mess about, it is a very intense class. And the walking is on a treadmill so both the machine and mfp do tend to match up ???
I'm not saying the class doesn't work you hard. I'm just suggesting to be wary of online calculators and cardio machines exaggerating your burn. I PERSONALLY use a FitBit and long term data of loss/gain vs. food intake to estimate my own calories burned doing activities.
Under eating today may lead to poorer performance and less effort put into your workout tomorrow. If you want to maintain a high level of performance, I do recommend eating back about half of those exercise calories. But if you're not hungry and you're objectively not decreasing performance in your exercise, then no, you don't have to eat more.
Thank you for your advice, I'm only on day 21 and all advice is much appreciated.I'm hoping to get a fitbit for Christmas so this should help even things out. I did a class this morning with a new member and it was more like a 1 hour warm up session so I haven't got a clue what to put for that on my daily log?
I personally equate a class to walking/jogging/running/sprints. Did the hour feel like an hour of jogging (as in how many moments were you out of breath, could you still talk to partners the whole time)? How much time were you bent over with your hands on your knees recovering from 100% exertion and feeling like you're about to throw up from the adrenaline? Did you at any point reach your "second wind." If you never "exerted" yourself or reached second wind, then walking or jogging for the equivalent time is what I PERSONALLY use (and still only eat back half).
How much weight have you lost in 21 days?
Great advice thank you. Ive lost 6lbs. But I do tend to hold water so I'm guessing that is what most of the loss is. My weight would normally go up and down by a few lbs when I'm not dieting.0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »The burn for kickboxing is from mfp which is why I tend not to eat them back. I don't think its anywhere near accurate although i must say that in our kickboxing we don't mess about, it is a very intense class. And the walking is on a treadmill so both the machine and mfp do tend to match up ???
I'm not saying the class doesn't work you hard. I'm just suggesting to be wary of online calculators and cardio machines exaggerating your burn. I PERSONALLY use a FitBit and long term data of loss/gain vs. food intake to estimate my own calories burned doing activities.
Under eating today may lead to poorer performance and less effort put into your workout tomorrow. If you want to maintain a high level of performance, I do recommend eating back about half of those exercise calories. But if you're not hungry and you're objectively not decreasing performance in your exercise, then no, you don't have to eat more.
Thank you for your advice, I'm only on day 21 and all advice is much appreciated.I'm hoping to get a fitbit for Christmas so this should help even things out. I did a class this morning with a new member and it was more like a 1 hour warm up session so I haven't got a clue what to put for that on my daily log?
I personally equate a class to walking/jogging/running/sprints. Did the hour feel like an hour of jogging (as in how many moments were you out of breath, could you still talk to partners the whole time)? How much time were you bent over with your hands on your knees recovering from 100% exertion and feeling like you're about to throw up from the adrenaline? Did you at any point reach your "second wind." If you never "exerted" yourself or reached second wind, then walking or jogging for the equivalent time is what I PERSONALLY use (and still only eat back half).
How much weight have you lost in 21 days?
Great advice thank you. Ive lost 6lbs. But I do tend to hold water so I'm guessing that is what most of the loss is. My weight would normally go up and down by a few lbs when I'm not dieting.
Sounds like you're right on track then. Keep up the good work.0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.
This is the question. My hour of kickboxing is under 600 cal. An hour of walking is not going to be another 500. If you are getting those burns from MFP, they are very likely overestimates. Personally, I wouldn't eat back more than 50%. If you aren't hungry today, saving a few for the weekend is a great idea!
How did you find out your burn for kickboxing please?
I use my FitBit. It's lower than MFP, but probably still a bit high. I tend to not eat back my exercise cals, but I have overridden the MFP setting of 1200 so I am eating more each day anyway. I find 1600 satisfying, and more appropriate. Still losing.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.
This is the question. My hour of kickboxing is under 600 cal. An hour of walking is not going to be another 500. If you are getting those burns from MFP, they are very likely overestimates. Personally, I wouldn't eat back more than 50%. If you aren't hungry today, saving a few for the weekend is a great idea!
How did you find out your burn for kickboxing please?
I use my FitBit. It's lower than MFP, but probably still a bit high. I tend to not eat back my exercise cals, but I have overridden the MFP setting of 1200 so I am eating more each day anyway. I find 1600 satisfying, and more appropriate. Still losing.
That's great, I'm getting a fitbit for Christmas and was trying to find another kickboxer that uses one to see if they are any good. Are they ok when your wearing your gloves and punching? And do they register when you've got your guard up but still active? Not sure how they work, but do they monitor your heart rate and convert it to calories burnt? thank you 0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.
This is the question. My hour of kickboxing is under 600 cal. An hour of walking is not going to be another 500. If you are getting those burns from MFP, they are very likely overestimates. Personally, I wouldn't eat back more than 50%. If you aren't hungry today, saving a few for the weekend is a great idea!
How did you find out your burn for kickboxing please?
I use my FitBit. It's lower than MFP, but probably still a bit high. I tend to not eat back my exercise cals, but I have overridden the MFP setting of 1200 so I am eating more each day anyway. I find 1600 satisfying, and more appropriate. Still losing.
That's great, I'm getting a fitbit for Christmas and was trying to find another kickboxer that uses one to see if they are any good. Are they ok when your wearing your gloves and punching? And do they register when you've got your guard up but still active? Not sure how they work, but do they monitor your heart rate and convert it to calories burnt? thank you
Mine is the Zip (clip to bra, during kickboxing I clip it inside the bra), so it just counts steps. I manually input the hour of kickboxing, and allow it to do it's adjustment. It doesn't do the fancy heart rate stuff, which is fine. It's the less expensive one, but seems pretty accurate for me. If you are looking at the heart rate one, I can't really help. There is a FitBit group though, and users there may have better answers for you.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1290-fitbit-users0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »I have daily a calorie goal of 1260,
today i ate 1281 calories
but my exercise calories are 1151 from 1 hour walking and 1 hour kickboxing.
I am not hungry at all.
Should I be eating more?
Advice needed please
Are your protein macros for the day met? If yes, then if your not hungry, don't eat. It's always nice to have some extra calories banked up for a day that you do over eat.
If your lacking in the protein department then have yourself a protein shake. I like EAS AdvatEdge as they are only 100 calories for 17g protein.
Hitting your protein goal is extremely important, but even more so if your wanting to see results from your workouts. Listen to your body, if your absolutely starving after a workout then eat yourself a healthy and satisfying meal/snack, but if your not hungry, then don't force yourself.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.
This is the question. My hour of kickboxing is under 600 cal. An hour of walking is not going to be another 500. If you are getting those burns from MFP, they are very likely overestimates. Personally, I wouldn't eat back more than 50%. If you aren't hungry today, saving a few for the weekend is a great idea!
How did you find out your burn for kickboxing please?
I use my FitBit. It's lower than MFP, but probably still a bit high. I tend to not eat back my exercise cals, but I have overridden the MFP setting of 1200 so I am eating more each day anyway. I find 1600 satisfying, and more appropriate. Still losing.
That's great, I'm getting a fitbit for Christmas and was trying to find another kickboxer that uses one to see if they are any good. Are they ok when your wearing your gloves and punching? And do they register when you've got your guard up but still active? Not sure how they work, but do they monitor your heart rate and convert it to calories burnt? thank you
Mine is the Zip (clip to bra, during kickboxing I clip it inside the bra), so it just counts steps. I manually input the hour of kickboxing, and allow it to do it's adjustment. It doesn't do the fancy heart rate stuff, which is fine. It's the less expensive one, but seems pretty accurate for me. If you are looking at the heart rate one, I can't really help. There is a FitBit group though, and users there may have better answers for you.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1290-fitbit-users
thank you for that, I have joined that group a while ago but i dont think there are many kickboxers as no one seems to no the answer.
How often do you do your kickboxing?, what belt are you?0 -
Optimistical1 wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »I have daily a calorie goal of 1260,
today i ate 1281 calories
but my exercise calories are 1151 from 1 hour walking and 1 hour kickboxing.
I am not hungry at all.
Should I be eating more?
Advice needed please
Are your protein macros for the day met? If yes, then if your not hungry, don't eat. It's always nice to have some extra calories banked up for a day that you do over eat.
If your lacking in the protein department then have yourself a protein shake. I like EAS AdvatEdge as they are only 100 calories for 17g protein.
Hitting your protein goal is extremely important, but even more so if your wanting to see results from your workouts. Listen to your body, if your absolutely starving after a workout then eat yourself a healthy and satisfying meal/snack, but if your not hungry, then don't force yourself.
I am usually around the right mark for protein, maybe a little low some days.I have been kickboxing for years so i may not notice the effects of low protein until i hit a wall, which i dont want to do. I will try to up it a bit. Thank you 0 -
GillianSmith2 wrote: »I have daily a calorie goal of 1260,
today i ate 1281 calories
but my exercise calories are 1151 from 1 hour walking and 1 hour kickboxing.
I am not hungry at all.
Should I be eating more?
Advice needed please
How big are you (height and weight)? It seems unnatural to not be hungry on 1260 calories a day with even half that much burned in exercise. If this is an isolated incident it's no big deal, but I sure wouldn't let that happen often.0 -
I am 5'4" and weigh 164kg. I never really get hungry as such. I just come from a long time of bad eating habits. When i was growing up i was never allowed to leave the table unless my plate was clear. It was a eat until is gone situation not eat until your full. Now i eat until im full and then stop.0
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GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »GillianSmith2 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »How are you determining that amount of burns? I would eat back 500-600 at most, or save them for tomorrow/Saturday.
This is the question. My hour of kickboxing is under 600 cal. An hour of walking is not going to be another 500. If you are getting those burns from MFP, they are very likely overestimates. Personally, I wouldn't eat back more than 50%. If you aren't hungry today, saving a few for the weekend is a great idea!
How did you find out your burn for kickboxing please?
I use my FitBit. It's lower than MFP, but probably still a bit high. I tend to not eat back my exercise cals, but I have overridden the MFP setting of 1200 so I am eating more each day anyway. I find 1600 satisfying, and more appropriate. Still losing.
That's great, I'm getting a fitbit for Christmas and was trying to find another kickboxer that uses one to see if they are any good. Are they ok when your wearing your gloves and punching? And do they register when you've got your guard up but still active? Not sure how they work, but do they monitor your heart rate and convert it to calories burnt? thank you
Mine is the Zip (clip to bra, during kickboxing I clip it inside the bra), so it just counts steps. I manually input the hour of kickboxing, and allow it to do it's adjustment. It doesn't do the fancy heart rate stuff, which is fine. It's the less expensive one, but seems pretty accurate for me. If you are looking at the heart rate one, I can't really help. There is a FitBit group though, and users there may have better answers for you.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1290-fitbit-users
thank you for that, I have joined that group a while ago but i dont think there are many kickboxers as no one seems to no the answer.
How often do you do your kickboxing?, what belt are you?
Ah, I am doing it more for exercise. I haven't been taking it as a discipline. Although I am looking at an MMA gym next town over. I just don't want to be driving the highways all winter (lousy excuse, I know). Your burn may be higher, but to be honest, I am not completely confident in the 588 cal burn, so I haven't been eating it back.
I see you said that you've been at it for years. That's really impressive! You obviously love it!GillianSmith2 wrote: »I am 5'4" and weigh 164kg. I never really get hungry as such. I just come from a long time of bad eating habits. When i was growing up i was never allowed to leave the table unless my plate was clear. It was a eat until is gone situation not eat until your full. Now i eat until im full and then stop.
This sounds very familiar too! Eating to the point of being in pain was so normal in those days. Did you mean 164lbs? Just looking at your ticker shows you are trying to lose 30lb, but I know that sometimes people will set smaller goals along the way.
Logging inaccuracies happen more frequently than you realize. Here's another great link, for logging:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1234699/logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide/p1
I still suggest eating only half of the MFP exercise cals back, and see if that is working for you. In about four weeks, you will have some great information to make decisions for changes. If you are losing as expected, keep doing the same (remembering that as you get lower, your body will need fewer calories, so you may need to slowly reduce down as you go). If you are losing too fast, increase your daily calories. If you are losing too slowly, you can decrease a little. 1200 calories is challenging, because you need to watch to make sure you are giving your body enough fuel and nutrients (macros and micros).0 -
haha yes 164 lbs my mistake ooopps, im not sure what weight i want to achieve yet, its more the look im after, i want to be a bit more toned but need to lose a bit of weight along the way.
i have been doing kickboxing for nearly 10 years and became a black belt 2 years ago. it is a great discipline and gives a total body workout, which is great for keeping me toned whilst i'm dieting. your a brave person if you want to try MMA, let me know how you gwt on if you decide to give it a go.
And thank you for all your advice its been great
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I'm guessing you have your goal set at 2 lbs/week loss. Generally, the recommendation for weight loss to develop sustainable habits and fuel your body is .5 lbs/week for every 25 pounds you lose. With only 30 to lose, think about setting a goal of .5-1 pounds per week at the start (as you get closer to your goal, the weight will probably be slower to come off). This will probably more accurately match your calorie burns, which do seem high. Netting almost 0 calories a day isn't healthy for your body. Outside of exercise, your body needs a minimum number of calories just to maintain organ function--it's called BMR (Basic Metabolic Rate). If you burn so many calories, your body will turn to lean muscle for fuel--that's the last thing you want! It's not an instant change, but it will happen over time if you maintain this current activity and calorie level. Even with your burns being high, it doesn't seem like you're eating enough to preserve lean tissue. Meet Scooby, scooby can help you figure out your numbers, including TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure). http://scoobysworkshop.com/calories-burned/
The weight didn't come on overnight and it won't come off that way either. What you want is for it to come off in a way that you can maintain once you're done losing. Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint. Give yourself the patience and grace to develop the habits you need to maintain so you don't start cycles of losing and gaining and then losing and gaining again and again.
Please take care of yourself--for now and for the future! 0
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