How do I begin researching what evoo's are the "real thing"?

catscats222
catscats222 Posts: 1,598 Member
edited November 26 in Food and Nutrition
Extra virgin olive oils
News came out that we are not getting what we think we are getting.
Mixed with other oils, or mixed with regular olive oil - not extra virgin.
I use the walmart evoo since i do not have much money.
And i figured walmart would not lie to me - right?
I would pay extra to someday taste the real thing that is not mixed with cheap stuff -but how does a customer know?

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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    google knows
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  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    According to this article, the only way to know for sure is to buy directly from the producer/farmer.

    http://www.foodrenegade.com/how-tell-if-your-olive-oil-fake/

    Not practical for this Canadian. I've decided to live with uncertainty.
  • HeidiCooksSupper
    HeidiCooksSupper Posts: 3,831 Member
    We use Colavita. We like its peppery flavor. It flunked the UC Davis tests but there's a good debunking of the tests for Colavita evoo in _Olive Oil Times_: http://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-oil-basics/world/colavita-davis-olive-oil-study/7186

    Here's are some articles that discuss this:

    http://www.seriouseats.com/2009/09/taste-test-cheap-best-olive-oils.html

    http://www.realfoodwholehealth.com/2014/01/in-search-of-100-pure-olive-oil/

    http://www.foodrenegade.com/how-tell-if-your-olive-oil-fake/
  • cortesd
    cortesd Posts: 58 Member
    This is a great site: http://www.truthinoliveoil.com/extra-virginity The book is a fun read as well!
  • ecjim
    ecjim Posts: 1,001 Member
    Pick it by the color - -If it is labeled First cold press - Extra virgin - try to pick the one with the most color - Some are in colored bottles so that makes it tough - Eastcoast Jim
  • wearmi1
    wearmi1 Posts: 291 Member
    Trader joes and Costco have some of the best ones that aren't outrageously priced.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Store brand at Whole Foods (365) is real . . . . although all of the other olive oils Whole Foods sells are fake, according to Slate.com
    Slate says that these at a Trader Joes are real: Greek Kalamata, California Estate, and Premium.
    I would rather buy almond or walnut oil than spend time thinking about which olive oil is really mixed with safflower or canola.
  • Pollywog_la
    Pollywog_la Posts: 103 Member
    If I don't have google handy, it usually seems if you find one produced and bottled in California...you have a better shot at it being real than the mass produced ones bottled in Italy (but sourced from all over the place).
    This used to be true, so hope it still is.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    If I don't have google handy, it usually seems if you find one produced and bottled in California...you have a better shot at it being real than the mass produced ones bottled in Italy (but sourced from all over the place).
    This used to be true, so hope it still is.

    Actually, the opposite is true. The government regulation of olive oil in Italy, Greece, and Spain is much more stringent than it is in the US. All countries sell adulterated olive oil, but you are much more likely to get what the label says if it is imported from any of those three countries.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    The best place to start your research is the Olive Center at the University of California-Davis. They are considered the top researchers into olive oil and were the first to report how much olive oil sold as Extra Virgin was adulterated with lower quality oil.
  • ValerieMartini2Olives
    ValerieMartini2Olives Posts: 3,024 Member
    Didn't you just post about this yesterday?
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    @catscats222 is a serial thread starter.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10284983/olive-oil-i-do-not-believe-it-will-make-me-any-healthier

    As far as I can tell, this cat never contributes twice to the same thread.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Interesting. I do think the counterfeit oil thing is kind of interesting, but I don't think olive oil is a magical health food, of course. It just tastes good and can be a good source of fat (among other things) in a healthful diet.

    I also wouldn't cook with EVOO -- waste of money when regular olive oil is preferable for that use.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    If you like the taste, does it make any difference?

    If you're cooking with evoo, putting it in hot pans, you won't notice the taste because the heat kills it off. There is NO purpose to using it in hot pans. Other than Rachael Ray, I don't think anyone has ever suggested that cooking with evoo was a good idea.

    It's nice when it's room temp, on good bread or whatever. But this whole idea of spending extra money on evoo to use when cooking is a wacky notion. Don't bother! The flavor cooks out and it has a low smoke point, anyway.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    If you like the taste, does it make any difference?

    If you're cooking with evoo, putting it in hot pans, you won't notice the taste because the heat kills it off. There is NO purpose to using it in hot pans. Other than Rachael Ray, I don't think anyone has ever suggested that cooking with evoo was a good idea.

    It's nice when it's room temp, on good bread or whatever. But this whole idea of spending extra money on evoo to use when cooking is a wacky notion. Don't bother! The flavor cooks out and it has a low smoke point, anyway.

    It's really good in slow-cooked marinara.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,009 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    According to this article, the only way to know for sure is to buy directly from the producer/farmer.

    http://www.foodrenegade.com/how-tell-if-your-olive-oil-fake/

    Not practical for this Canadian. I've decided to live with uncertainty.
    This. There are far more important things in life to get spun out about...

  • flippy1234
    flippy1234 Posts: 686 Member
    I saw a show on Olive Oils. Trader Joe's and California are 2 of the best.
  • theocine
    theocine Posts: 36 Member
    This month's issue of Cook' Illustrated includes a tasting of extra virgin olive oil. Part of the accompanying discussion were indications that most olive oils on the American market, as offered at our grocers, would qualify as virgin olive oil, not EXTRA-VIRGIN olive oil. This would be fine for most cooking purposes. But we're trained to expect EVOO and VOO does not appear as such in our stores.

    California Olive Ranch and Lucini brands were recommended. All othere were only recommended with reservations-- most had comments from the tasters of bland or boring.
  • steuartcj
    steuartcj Posts: 132 Member
    edited November 2015
    +1 theocine.

  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    Extra virgin olive oils
    News came out that we are not getting what we think we are getting.
    Mixed with other oils, or mixed with regular olive oil - not extra virgin.
    I use the walmart evoo since i do not have much money.
    And i figured walmart would not lie to me - right?
    I would pay extra to someday taste the real thing that is not mixed with cheap stuff -but how does a customer know?

    At least in Europe, EVOO needs to have low acidity (below 0.8), VOO is more acidic (up to 2%).One can produce VOO with much higher acidity, but it is no longer suitable for human consumption as it is, and if you happen to find any, you can easily tell by smell and taste.
    Refined oil (which is what one could easily use to make a profit and pass it as EVOO) has very low acidity (close to zero) but you can tell by taste, as it really has no flavour compared to EVOO. It would probably be impossible to tell if you just cook with it, especially if you do not use entire cups of it, but you can tell if it is raw, by the lack of flavour.
    I live in an olive oil producing country and it is practically impossible to find VOO, as oil is either sold as EVOO (and priced accordingly) or just refined. If EVOO is going to be a "scam" it would be far more probable that it is mixed with refined oils or even with completely different oils, even oils that should not be edible. But I would be very surprised if any big company managed such a scam, someone would notice.
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