culturally ingrained insensitivity to weight & general observations

sapphirewind
sapphirewind Posts: 55 Member
edited November 2015 in Motivation and Support
So this year I moved halfway around the world to an area that is the basically the opposite of America health-wise (S.Korea). With the USA having about 40% of the population being overweight or obese and where I live now having -5%, the difference is noticable. I went from being "slightly larger" or even "Average" in the West to being "obese" over here. I even turned my head when I saw a much larger Korean, which I would never do back home... it was just strange to see it. I did lose 16-18lbs since joining a gym, but as the "look" that people go for is slim and "not too fit" (muscles can often be viewed similarly as fat here)... it's hard to keep positive. The population's diet is traditionally non-processed (even with a rise in chicken & beer, and pizza popularity), so besides all the white rice it's easy to eat whole foods and vegetables (all the side dishes). I wear one of the largest sizes in the dept. store...don't even bother going to the small shops without sizes.... and the kids continue to poke my stomach and call be "big" and make a circle with their hands. Although the lunch lady did call me "slim" when I chose to eat only a child's size portion of rice (they consider it fine to eat as much as you want of it on a diet)... it's hard for me to believe that they really think that when my co-worker holds up a pair of jeans (size 8, but fit like a 6) that used to not fit me and exclaims "Big size!'. They also assumed that I would be slower climbing mount Halla in Jeju island...when in reality I came in fourth...I was told how fast I was by the people who beat me up there. lol My friend struggles even more being VERY tall for a girl and being over 200lbs (she is a giant here) but can run circles around me and probably most people here. Being larger foreigners, in general we are both underestimated and treated like we can't do much on our own. Also...my gym gives out rice cakes and pepero (on a holiday) which are nothing but carbs and sugar (but admittingly, don't have THAT many calories unless you eat the whole box www.cuteinkorea.com/pepero-day/) ... but roasted chicken is a no-no...ffffuuu... they are actually obsessed with eating here (someone just handed me a sweet potato from the garden a minute ago) ... they just eat...well better, mostly everything is still local farm produced. They have packaged food.... most of it is strange or "Foreign" and soft drinks and "fast food" is a special occurance. Lots of candy for the kiddies and cookies (and other junk) in the breakroom though.

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  • OliverMol
    OliverMol Posts: 46 Member
    I had a facebook friend who moved to South Korea as well. He was very fitness-oriented. I am happy you explained one of the reasons why. However I am not sure I could do ot in fear of the Naturally ingrained but hidden Racism like you mention.
    Also how is the suicde rate comimg along? Or was it North Korea that had worlds highest? How do people combat this? I heard studying was crazy like 11 hours of classes a day.
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    You are there temporarily. :)
    When and where you can, find ways to make the best of it -- maybe go to sports events, art, music, . . .
  • norcogrrl
    norcogrrl Posts: 129 Member
    edited November 2015
    Over 1/2 my office (in Calgary, Canada) are men who came to Canada as adults from South Korea.

    They're a brash bunch (as are their wives), and they share their opinions about everything. I find they aren't malicious, and they're usually quite humorous in their observations. They've commented on my belly fat, my grey hair, my health issues, my age, the food I eat, and the clothes I wear. They also poke fun at themselves (and everyone else in the office). Some of the things they say to each other are actually quite shocking. They take it a lot farther with each other than they do with non-Koreans.

    I've been working with most of these guys for nearly ten years now. They haven't changed a bit during that time. I was regularly insulted by their comments at first, but now I see it as part of their charm. I adore them all.

    I'd suggest you try stepping into their shoes for a bit and learn how to dish it out instead of just taking it. The people around you might really enjoy being sassed back. Friendly verbal engagement and sparring with them can be a lot of fun.
  • sapphirewind
    sapphirewind Posts: 55 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    You are there temporarily. :)
    When and where you can, find ways to make the best of it -- maybe go to sports events, art, music, . . .

    I wasn't saying I was miserable, and I go to a lot of things... although I am outside of Seoul I've gone there for Halloween, went to a zombie walk, been to 2 free Kpop concerts, etc. That isn't my problem. This just isn't a great place for people who tend to be insecure, have a history of yo-yo dieting or depression.... and on that note...
  • sapphirewind
    sapphirewind Posts: 55 Member
    edited November 2015
    norcogrrl wrote: »
    Over 1/2 my office (in Calgary, Canada) are men who came to Canada as adults from South Korea.

    They're a brash bunch (as are their wives), and they share their opinions about everything. I find they aren't malicious, and they're usually quite humorous in their observations. They've commented on my belly fat, my grey hair, my health issues, my age, the food I eat, and the clothes I wear. They also poke fun at themselves (and everyone else in the office). Some of the things they say to each other are actually quite shocking. They take it a lot farther with each other than they do with non-Koreans.

    I've been working with most of these guys for nearly ten years now. They haven't changed a bit during that time. I was regularly insulted by their comments at first, but now I see it as part of their charm. I adore them all.

    I'd suggest you try stepping into their shoes for a bit and learn how to dish it out instead of just taking it. The people around you might really enjoy being sassed back. Friendly verbal engagement and sparring with them can be a lot of fun.

    I've actually had it easy compared to some... I think it's mainly the plastic surgery culture (highest amount in the world) along with the media... "whose the new Kpop star on the "3 cup diet"? "He lost weight by eating only 2 tofu blocks a day and got famous." that drives me insane here...

    Funny thing is they're very big on pushing food here and you really can't say no. I've tried.... didn't go down too well.
  • sapphirewind
    sapphirewind Posts: 55 Member
    OliverMol wrote: »
    I had a facebook friend who moved to South Korea as well. He was very fitness-oriented. I am happy you explained one of the reasons why. However I am not sure I could do ot in fear of the Naturally ingrained but hidden Racism like you mention.
    Also how is the suicde rate comimg along? Or was it North Korea that had worlds highest? How do people combat this? I heard studying was crazy like 11 hours of classes a day.

    Wait...I never said it was "racism". Any American can be larger... even Korean American. It's "sizism" if anything...

    There are no statistics on North Korea. Yes, it's the highest here (and I knew this... even though winter in particular makes me depressed). They combat it by motion sensors and posters of "happy families" on bridges and most train stations have glass barricades... you know, jumpers. Well... locally we don't have one... Seoul gets everything first, but they eight be more stressed.

    The older kids study too much, there is a hogwon (private academy open at night) across the street, on the first floor of my building, around the corner... I'm just glad I work at an Elementary school.

  • sapphirewind
    sapphirewind Posts: 55 Member
    newmeadow wrote: »
    So this year I moved halfway around the world

    Sorry, but I think that anyone who wants to roll this kinda dice (for the sake of adventure, thrills, cultural enrichment or professional advancement) is pretty much at the mercy of whatever happens. Not much you can do once you're there and you're stuck. There have been other threads started at MFP about Americans/Canadians moving to S. Korea stating pretty much exactly what you describe here.

    Well I figured it would be brought up on the "waygook" board for foreigners but not so much here. Interesting.... can you point me in their direction (or the thread)? I'm always looking to chat with those with similar experiences over here.
  • norcogrrl
    norcogrrl Posts: 129 Member
    I've actually had it easy compared to some... I think it's mainly the plastic surgery culture (highest amount in the world) along with the media... "whose the new Kpop star on the "3 cup diet"? "He lost weight by eating only 2 tofu blocks a day and got famous." that drives me insane here...

    Funny thing is they're very big on pushing food here and you really can't say no. I've tried.... didn't go down too well.

    One of the guy's wives is desperate for plastic surgery. She's a truly stunning woman: spectacularly, breathtakingly, beautiful. She's only been here in Canada for two years, so hopefully the desire to slice and dice her amazing face with ebb with time.

    I find they're big on pushing food and alcohol. I have to be very firm with them sometimes. Yea, it ticks 'em off. But, they always get over it.