Cheat meals- yay or nay?
catherinecollins1420
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Hey guys! So what are your opinions on cheat meals? I've heard they're good because they rev up the body's fat burning, I've heard they're bad because your body just stores the uncommon meal as all fat, so I'm just trying to separate fact from fiction! Also, I am wondering if having a cheat meal interferes too much with weight loss? Thanks!
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Yay. It's good to enjoy treats once in a while. Just fit it into your goals, and even if you overdo it once in a while, really not gonna do much damage in the big picture.0
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If you like them and they work for you, I vote Yea.
Personally, for me, I vote Nay.
I eat things I like every day. I want to eat yummy, but healthy, things all the time. Eating junk food would be cheating myself out of healthier stuff. That's me. Again, if you want to indulge, it's a big Yea for you.0 -
Cheat meals are great to reset your fat burning hormone leptin. Make sure to fit that 'cheat meal' within your daily calorie needs and it won't interfere with your diet, in fact it will make you burn even more fat.0
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People don't get overweight because they ate more than their energy needs every day, and it doesn't take eating a calorie deficit every day to lose weight over the long term. For some, occasional overeating might make the rest of the days tolerable, but yet an intolerable reminder for others. Whether the overeating was planned or not, it comes down to getting back to the plan the next day. Does a "cheat" day cause you to get lax about portion control on non-cheat days? Then maybe they're not for you. Or, does it give you a needed reward and motivate you to keep at it?
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I don't. I work everything I like to eat into my normal meals.
The only "free days" I have are special celebrations, like holidays, and on those days, I don't allow myself to binge, but rather eat a moderate amount but without specifically trying to count calories.
That said, if it works for you, go for it. I would suggest, though, that you also look to see if you're being too restrictive if you feel the need for regular "cheats". I will not give up anything for a diet that I won't give up forever, since the diet is really practice for the rest of my life maintaining weight.0 -
Yay on rare occasion.
Overall I eat food I like daily but on occasion I will indulge in something a little bit more "junky" I just stay in my calories0 -
Exercise the calories off
There is no cheating. It is just math. There is calories in and out.
If you are run down and feel spent, it may be time to look at your nutrition you are getting or size of calorie deficit
There lots of half truths on MFP, like a calorie is hat a calorie. Nutrition goes to how you feel and function.
If you have a 300-500 calorie a day deficit total, and feel a frequent need to eat more, look at what you are eating
I do burn off a bunch of calories on some training days. I eat back a bit of that calorie burn. Sometimes it may be pizza. And that isn't a cheat meal. It is just doing the math.
Maybe exercise more and eat more when you want to. It is just math, no morality or cheating.
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They are a love hate sort of deal for me. I love to eat them when I'm eating them but the I feel really bad about it after. I feel like I really didn't need to cheat. It's s tough one. But we're all different. See how the make you feel and go from there. Good luck!0
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I think it all depends on the person and there is no correct answer as to whether or not they're "good" to have.
For me personally, they help me remain sane to a point.
A cheat meal once in a great while will really help me stay on track. Notice I said meal, and not day, which is something I've also tried with absolutely no success whatsoever. An entire day of "cheating" turns into binging for me, and I was seeing my weight increase significantly in a short amount of time (and not water weight, trust me, I ate a lot).
A cheat meal will generally either be for dinner or as a later snack; by having it later in the day I'm generally in more social settings enjoying it with my friends or family, and since I don't start my day with this cheat meal I'm not tempted to disregard the rest of my day indulging in delicious foods. I also plan all of my cheat meals in advance so it doesn't turn into a binge, which is something I've struggled with in the past.
In maintenance, I save myself 500 calories for dinner and 400 for a snack. If I have a cheat meal for dinner, I'll generally consume around 2,000-3,000 calories for dinner (I still save 500 for that meal, so my surplus isn't as much), and then for snack I'll reduce it to around 200 calories for a protein bar. If I have a cheat meal for dessert, I'll enjoy my 500 calorie dinner, and then consume around 1,000 or 2,000 calories on a snack (again, I would still save my 400 calories to help reduce the damage).
That being said, not all of my cheat meals turn out like that, just most of them. I prefer using it towards a dinner and not a snack, since the sugar overload leaves me feeling quite nauseous. If I use it towards dinner, I try to watch my sodium for the rest of the day (and the ones that follow) since I'm very salt sensitive.
I generally have cheat meals once I notice my weight falling below the range I have for myself in maintenance, and I notice myself being hungry all the time. That way, this cheat meal sets me back on track and allows me to indulge in something I've been craving for a while. Nothing feels better than being able to eat an entire pint of Ben & Jerry's!0 -
no point in cheatmeals because i never ban any item off my daily diet i just fit it in my caloric allowance.0
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Don't plan in cheat meals , unless your really lean they don't help. Simply eat within your calorie target and when its Christmas/Birthday/Family nights out let loose for a meal. Don't worry about it or call it a cheat just go back to business as usual afterwards.0
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What exactly are you cheating? Yourself? Your diet? It's just food and we're only human. I don't cheat because that would imply i'm being "bad." And eating food is not bad, it's essential for life.
Do I have days where I go over my goal calories? Yes. I went to the fair yesterday. Again, life has to be lived enjoyably and fair food is enjoyable! I would guestimate that I go over calories maybe 10-15 days a year like that, but it's not those 10 or 15 days that will break me, it's the choices I make rest of the days in-between. I became overweight because I ate like that ALL the time. I take more care not to eat like that every day, but once in a while is not cheating or bad or going to undo everything I have worked hard to achieve.0 -
There are tons of threads on this.
I personally don't "cheat" on my way of eating and living. I have indulgences from time to time, but never consider that "cheating", just living. And, I don't plan them, or make them goals, they happen often enough just by living.0 -
When used correctly, cheat meals can be a great tool to help carve your physique. They can reset hormones responsible for metabolism and insulin regulation, replenish glycogen for increased energy, and keep calorie-burning and fat-torching mechanisms high.
If you're a beginner and you don't posses nutritional knowledge, then mastering nutrition is far more important than training and should become your number one priority. I say this because improving a poor diet can create rapid, quantum leaps in fat loss and muscle building progress.
For example, if you've been skipping meals and only eating 2 times per day, jumping your meal frequency up to 5 or 6 smaller meals a day will transform your physique very rapidly.
If you're still eating lots of processed fats and refined sugars, cutting them out and replacing them with good fats like the omega 3's found in fish and unrefined foods like fruits, vegetables and whole grains will make an enormous and noticeable difference in your physique very quickly.
If your diet is low in protein, simply adding a complete protein food like chicken breast, fish or egg whites at each meal will muscle you up fast.
No matter how hard you train or what type of training routine you're on, it's all in vain if you don't provide yourself with the right nutritional support.0 -
catherinecollins1420 wrote: »Hey guys! So what are your opinions on cheat meals? I've heard they're good because they rev up the body's fat burning, I've heard they're bad because your body just stores the uncommon meal as all fat, so I'm just trying to separate fact from fiction! Also, I am wondering if having a cheat meal interferes too much with weight loss? Thanks!
They don't rev up the body's fat burning and they don't store the uncommon meal as fat. I'm team yay as I need a meal with unrestricted calories every once and a while to keep my sanity.0 -
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I go to maintenance when the going gets rough. Not exactly the same as having a cheat meal but calorie-wise might be similar.0
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It depends on the person and depends on the person's goals. If you're someone who can 'do' moderation and let the cheat meal be just that-one meal. Some people can't and it starts them on somewhat of a downward spiral of eating more foods that will be counterproductive to their goals.0
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Think it varies from person to person. Iv learned to control myself while eating "cheat meals". I can have 1 slice of pizza and be satisfied. Rather than before I'd eat 3/4 of it. We all have to get self control and look forward to our goals.0
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This past week has been a little rough but typically I eat two meals a day that are both over 1000 calories to some people those would be cheat meals but to me its a life style.
As long as I get 50 grams of Fat and 150 grams of protein in everyday I could careless what the food is considered to someone else.. My 2 cents0 -
Regarding leptin upregulation, I don't think we have evidence to support single day food increases as being meaningful. Leptin goes up in response to additional carbohydrate but (apparently) going back into a calorie deficit causes it to immediately drop back down again, making it basically useless.
Lyle Mcdonald (to my knowledge) was the guy who originally brought refeeds on to the fitness scene and he's recently discussed this at length (IIRC on Sigma Nutrition Radio). Extended diet breaks could have a small effect.
Having said that, you could still make an argument in favor of refeeds and I still recommend that some people do them. Short term improved performance (whether glycogen mediated or placebo), long term diet adherence improvements.
And for the majority of people who are not already lean, it's the adherence piece that's the big one.
Does having a day at higher caloric intake give you better long term adherence while still keeping you in a net deficit? Then it's a good thing.
But this isn't the case for everyone, and viewing it as a "cheat day" can be problematic for some people from a behavioral standpoint.0 -
It all comes down to math. You want to eat something high in calories? Fine. You can either bank some calories for it and stay at your overall calorie goal/deficit for the week, you can log as planned then eat it and expect a slower rate of loss that week (or not if the "cheat" meal fits within your calorie goals). Just...track. That's the important part right now. And there is nothing magical about a cheat meal. The most magical thing it will do for me is add some fat back into my diet as I tend to be low on it in a deficit, which does feel good. But, I don't consider it a cheat meal. It's just food...that I put in my body.0
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IMO one bad meal once in a while wont make you fat just as one good meal here and there is not going to make you thin. Earn your 'cheat' that week by exercising and staying in deficit - but make sure it is just 'one cheat meal' not an entire cheat day and then get back on track straight after. Oh and make sure its not an every week things either, especially if you are trying to lose!0
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If cheating is increased calories, I do that fairly regularly.
If cheating is going out of my WOE (like eating a high carb meal) then no, I don't cheat.0 -
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Regarding leptin upregulation, I don't think we have evidence to support single day food increases as being meaningful. Leptin goes up in response to additional carbohydrate but (apparently) going back into a calorie deficit causes it to immediately drop back down again, making it basically useless.
Lyle Mcdonald (to my knowledge) was the guy who originally brought refeeds on to the fitness scene and he's recently discussed this at length (IIRC on Sigma Nutrition Radio). Extended diet breaks could have a small effect.
Having said that, you could still make an argument in favor of refeeds and I still recommend that some people do them. Short term improved performance (whether glycogen mediated or placebo), long term diet adherence improvements.
And for the majority of people who are not already lean, it's the adherence piece that's the big one.
Does having a day at higher caloric intake give you better long term adherence while still keeping you in a net deficit? Then it's a good thing.
But this isn't the case for everyone, and viewing it as a "cheat day" can be problematic for some people from a behavioral standpoint.
Well said. tl;dr if you're struggling with your diet once a week eat a little more for your sanity and there may be some metabolic benefits as well.0
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