Going Vegetarian, pls vegetarians need your help!

runjennarun
runjennarun Posts: 6
edited September 28 in Food and Nutrition
Hi everyone!

I'm Jenna, and I run. I currently am a meat eater (and dont like the taste of meat, i eat it mainly because of the protein source), but I want to be a vegetarian. I think ever since I was around 13 i wanted to do it, just never really got the effort to do it. I really have no idea how to do it. I mean, how does a vegetarian plate looks like? How am I going to replace the protein, how much dairy will it be allow, ( i really dont like eggs...). how many carbs are allowed? fat? nuts? I had heard that when you go vegetarian you need every year to take some kind of vitamin shots, how true how false is it? If you are a runner and vegetarian how do you do it? Books that can you recommend will also be highly appreciated!

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  • lhanks89
    lhanks89 Posts: 90 Member
    I think the easiest way to transistion to vegetarianism is to start replacing your regular burgers with veggie burgers. The world of soy has become amazing - much more than just tofu. At Target they have products by MorningStar (morningstarfarms.com) which are great. I mean vegetarian BBQ ribs?! What's better than that, especially since they're like 1/3 of the fat of regular ribs!

    I've been a vegetarian for 6 years and I've never had to take any vitamin shots, although I do take a multi-vitamin sometimes because I'm an athlete.
  • 30in11
    30in11 Posts: 14
    I've been a vegetarian for 13 years and have never had a "yearly" vitamin shot.... I occasionally take a multivitamin, but not really regularly. One thing I do, when I'm working out hard (I run and weight train), is take a protein supplement. I don't like to eat too much dairy, so I usually choose Nutri Biotic Vegan Rice protein powder, vanilla flavour, which is decent when mixed with other stuff. I also sometimes drink Vega smoothies.

    As far as diet goes, I would suggest checking out a bunch of vegetarian cookbooks or magazines from the library and seeing what you like and don't like. Vegetarian Times magazine has great recipes with nutritional breakdowns for each. For health reasons, I tend to try to be light on the cheese and include more beans, legumes and nuts in my diet. My plate rarely looks like a meat-eater's might, with a separate portion of "meat", vegetables and grain... usually it's all mixed together, sometimes grains served on a bed of greens. I try to eat as much vegetables (especially dark green ones) as I can.
  • tlynnweb
    tlynnweb Posts: 201 Member
    I'd love to know the answers too! I toy with the idea myself.
  • shopgirl192
    shopgirl192 Posts: 102
    The Morning-star Mozzarella and Basil Burgers are AMAZING on top of a toasted english muffin! Who needs greasy burgers!!! :)
  • lhanks89
    lhanks89 Posts: 90 Member
    Vegweb.com is a great website for vegan recipies, and with all of the meat substitutes out there, you can mostly have the same foods. Like I love tacos, but instead of ground beef I use Veggie Protein Crumbles.
  • rlmiller73190
    rlmiller73190 Posts: 342 Member
    i've been a vegetarian for two years-- i've never gotten a vitamin shot. i love to get creative in the kitchen. tip: get a GOOD vegetarian cookbook. I eat pasta, rice, and tons of fresh produce. do you have a farmers market near you? they usually have cheaper produce and it lasts longer. I eat dairy (drink soymilk) and just started eating egg whites (regular eggs make my tummy hurt) :P feel free to ad me if you wanna look at my food diary. i OCCASIONALLY eat fish (if yu like it, yu might try that...)
  • SoCalSwimmerDude
    SoCalSwimmerDude Posts: 507 Member
    If you'd like, you can add me as a friend and check out my diary. I'm not a veg but my wife is for the past 22 yrs (since she was 7). I'm the cook and always make meals that are either completely vegetarian, or a meal that has a meat, tofu, or fake meat option. Like tonight, I'll be making vegetarian chili. Bottom line is that our dinners typically have everything a vegetarian needs, its just that I will add organic chicken to mine 50% of the time.

    But a few staples in my wifes diet: quinoa, quorn products, tofu, cous cous, pasta (lots of protein!), salads, seeds/nuts, dried fruit, black beans (and other beans), fruits/veggies, raisins, soy/almond milk, and chocolate... actually REAL chocolate is a good source of iron, etc, etc, etc. Just my 2 cents.
  • crystalinda
    crystalinda Posts: 151 Member
    I think first off you need to decide what kind of vegetarian you want to be. Many people define vegetarian differently. do you want to be lacto-ovo vegetarian (dairy & eggs - I know you said you don't like eggs but you'd be surprised the amount of foods that contain these products)? Vegan (no animal by products whatsoever)? If you want to go vegan maybe the best way is to easy your way into by going lacto-ovo first then phase out animal products. One of the biggest challenges new vegetarians have is figuring out how to create a well rounded diet so kudos to you for doing research first. I've heard terrible stories of people who went vegetarian by simply cutting out meat in their diets without supplement it with alternatives then ended up becoming anemic and losing hair!

    On the other hand I've been Pescatarian (fish yes, no red meat, chicken, pork, etc.) for 17 years as I was adjusting in the early years I would grapple with mild anemia but nothing too major. Fish is a great source of protein which is why I decided to stick with it and not go full board veggie. But if you do make the jump you will need to eat plant based sources of protein in place of meat. Examples; nuts, peanut butter, beans. One thing meat is a good source of that is harder to get when you don't eat meat is Iron and vitamin B12. I will get B12 shots on occasion because its harder to consume in a meatless diet.

    Read up on alternative protein sources such as tempeh, tofu, soy.

    I have fish maybe 2 to 3xs a week, not only is it good source of protein while being low in fat its also a good source of omeg 3 fatty acids. But other than having fish, my protein is usually way above my MFP goals and I like to keep it there. Ways that I make that happen is by eating soy products, protein shakes, dry unbleached nuts, edamame, protein heavy breads (perfect 10 bagels, ezekiel bread, etc.)
  • crystalinda
    crystalinda Posts: 151 Member
    Also, if you're really going to go vegan there are a lot of foods that contain animal products that you might be aware of. For example, gelatin is an animal based product that is found in a lot of processed foods like jello, most yogurts, and many candies. So you may have to read food labels and do some research in the beginning.

    One of the simplest ways to simplify this confusion is to cut back on processed foods. If you don't know what's in it or if you don't recognize the ingredients - don't eat it.
  • I had in fact tried the morning star products, which in fact I like; however, i do not want to eat to much process food (as I do not do right now). So then all I might need is ideas on how to balance this diet (I'm so exited right now!). I want to begin with a lacto-ovo vegetarian diet. I don't like eggs so those might not be seen to often ( i mainly use them for when I bake) and my main problem will be giving up dairy ( i just have a sick relationship with cheese) and milk I don't like the taste of it so I only drink almond milk (used to drink soy then I stop due to all the concern regarding soy). This is going to be hard, that's why I want to begin just giving up meat, gelatin and stuff like this. I hope that within a year I can be vegan. I love vegetables, fruits, nuts and of course bread. So this might not be hard, but I also don't want to have a bad experience and get scare, like someone mention losing hair could happen if I don't do it right. Well Thank you all so much! Your information is greatly appreciated! I will check out your suggestions! and thanks for letting me add you to find inspiration! Thank you, thank you! :) And if you can add more information still will be appreciated!
  • 30in11
    30in11 Posts: 14
    If your ultimate goal is to be vegan, you should definitely check out Isa Chandra Moskowitz's cookbooks... the Veganomicon, Vegan with a Vengeance, etc. They're great... pretty much everything coming out of those books tastes great. She also has a weight loss one Appetite for Reduction that I haven't checked out yet, but I've heard it's great.
  • perceptualobfuscator
    perceptualobfuscator Posts: 159 Member
    There's a lot of misinformation and scare tactics out there regarding vegetarianism/veganism. Don't listen to it. The 'vitamin shot' thing is one of them. As well, many doctors are not dietary specialists. If you want advice on eating, try to see a dietician. I would recommend doing this a month or so after becoming vegetarian, just so someone with appropriate expertise can make sure you're doing it right. A word of caution - in many countries, the term 'nutritionist' is unregulated, so nearly anyone can claim to be qualified as one. This is why I recommend seeing a dietician instead.

    I've found that most people who 'get sick' after going veggie have not done very much research on the subject. So to avoid getting sick and having false starts, make sure you know your stuff!!

    I don't know where you're from, so I can't speak for your region, but I know that since I started being vegetarian ten years ago, the world has become a lot more accepting of vegetarianism. I mean, then I could hardly find a veggie burger at a grocery store, and now I can find them at restaurants. It's gotten a lot easier over the years, but (again, depending on where you live) you may still face ignorant and volatile reactions simply for choosing not to consume meat.

    Most veggies don't have much of a problem having a balanced diet, though it is a little bit trickier for vegans. Make sure you have vegetarian nutrition down first, and again, research is your friend.

    I first started out being vegetarian when I was quite young, and relied upon store-bought veggie meats to replace actual meat in my diet. Over time, I was able to prepare more food myself and now don't have that sort of reliance. Maybe this is something you could do, while you are researching better options?

    For cookbooks, I love the Veganomicon, How it All Vegan (and other books by these authors), and the Vegan Lunch Box. But a really good resource is www.vegweb.com. I've found it incredibly useful.

    One thing to watch out for when researching food and nutrition is your resource's reason for being vegetarian/vegan. If it's health concerns when you care about animal welfare, you may be surprised to find people consuming caesar salad (often containing anchovy paste), marshmallows and other candy (gelatin), yogurts (often gelatin) and other items that contain animal parts. I religiously check the ingredient list of every item I purchase. Eventually, it's easy to spot what doesn't belong; however, it's more difficult for vegans. Dairy is in many unexpected items - even some soy cheese (casein). Again, many people who are veggie for the health are unconcerned about this, so it depends on your mileage.

    There are plenty of easy-to-google beginner vegetarian guides online, but make sure it's made by a reliable source of information. If you can find references to research papers, all the better. Beware of fad-dieters who think that vegan is the new Atkins. These people often want a quick fix for the health problem a la mode and are unreliable. Try a vegetarian society for beginner guidance, like https://www.vegsoc.org/ or others.

    Lastly, being vegetarian really isn't all that complicated. Don't eat meat, make sure you get enough calories/nutrients, and you should be fine.
  • You know it didn't cross my mind to talk to a dietitian until you mentioned. Obviously I will get the best resources from one of them. And yes part of my concern about going vegetarian and hopefully in the future vegan has to do with the cruelty to animals, environmental reasons are also dragging me to do this. And of course I want to do it right. Right now I am trying to find information on which animal products to look for in yogurts, and so on. So thank you for the information! Means a lot to me to have so much support towards this!!!! :)
  • milaxx
    milaxx Posts: 1,122 Member
    You don't need shots, but you do need to take care that you are eating a balanced diet. I eat eggs, but if you don't care for them there's no need to eat them. I am also a cancer survivor so I limit my processed soy products and tofu. There are tons of grains, beans and legumes you can get protein I limit the fake meats like morning star/boca/quorn products. They can be just as bad for you as any other processed food and should not make up the bulk of your diet.

    Feel free to peek at my diary. It's not perfect, but I put forth a lot of effort to eat as clean as possible.
  • PirateJenny
    PirateJenny Posts: 233
    Feel free to add me, I have been a vegetarian most of my life (29 years this August) and I eat a pretty clean diet. I am also knowledgeable about vegetarianism and good food choices.

    Milaxx had a great point. Vegetarians have almost as many poor food choices available to them as people who eat meat.

    The subtraction of meat and animal additives does not insure a healthy diet, just like the inclusion of meat doesn't insure an unhealthy one. I love being a vegetarian and it is absolutely the right choice for me, but I have many fit and healthy friends who include meat in their diets and that is the right choice for them.

    Good luck and welcome!
  • LaSirena29
    LaSirena29 Posts: 84
    Vegetarian Times magazine has a great Vegetarian Starter Kit brochure. They've got a digital copy online. I think it would be worth checking out for anyone interested in going vegetarian.
    http://www.vegetariantimes.com/2007/pdf/vegetarian_starter_kit.pdf
    When I decided to become vegetarian (at age 15), and it looked like it was not just a stage I was going through, my mom got me a subscription to Vegetarian Times for my birthday. I found it really helpful.

    Oh, and about that shot....I've been a vegetarian for 25 years now. This is the first I've ever heard of a yearly vitamin shot. I don't even take a daily vitamin (mostly because I can never remember to take it), but I work really hard to get my vitamins & nutrients from the foods I'm eating. Feel free to add me as a friend if you like.
  • mabug01
    mabug01 Posts: 1,273 Member
    for free medical and practical information, with lots of recipes, try dr. john mcdougall's website.
  • monkeysmum
    monkeysmum Posts: 522 Member
    ive been veggie for 16years now never needed a vitamin jab and the only time i got anemic is with my 5kids cute little troubles nick my iron lol but iron tablets worked for me

    i gave up meat for 2 reasons how it was kept prier to slaughter (not as much with the oraganic stuff when i was young) and i really dont like taste love the smell hate the taste same for fish i can stomach prawns and scampi hate all other fish taste smell texture

    alternative protein sources quorn, quinoa whole grains, beans lentils legumes etc heres a site you might find helpful
    http://vegetarian.about.com/od/healthnutrition/tp/protein.htm
    meat free products have come along way they have better taste and texture but have a try see what you like. get a good veggie cook book and just experiment with meals
    best of luck
  • mabug01
    mabug01 Posts: 1,273 Member
    If you stick with the 'three sisters' (corn, beans and squash) you can't go wrong nutritionally. Also, potatos (any kind) are also a nutritionally perfect food.
  • missusjess
    missusjess Posts: 3 Member
    I've been lacto-ovo vegetarian for just over a year now. I'm starting to give up dairy though. I think one of the biggest misconceptions about vegetarians is that we don't get enough protein. Without trying, I regularly meet the "recommended" protein levels... I just think Americans are obsessed with protein.

    Personally, I don't care for all the faux meats. If I wanted to eat meat, I'd eat meat, you know? I do enjoy black bean burgers because they're delicious (I make homemade ones now) and what's not to love about something you can put on bread?

    I've found that my biggest problem with vegetarianism is that I've begun to rely TOO much on pasta/bread/etc to fill me up and it's really not necessary. Right now, I'm trying to cut back on some of those things and up the veggies, legumes, etc.
  • kristelpoole
    kristelpoole Posts: 440 Member
    First of all, YAY! Congratulations! :)

    Second, what's a vitamin shot? Haha. Like many other veggies on this thread, I've never heard of it and I've never needed it. I've been pescetarian for about 3.5 years. I can't believe it's been that long! Honestly, it's not that hard - at all. I grew up on meat and potatoes and I made the switch in a day. The best tips I have for you are to get creative, try new things, eat a LOT of fresh vegetables and don't rely on dairy and bread/pasta/carbs for sustenance. In fact, I have been cutting back on my dairy and carbs a LOT lately and that hasn't been that difficult either. Just do your research. The research alone has become a huge passion of mine, so be open to it. It's always better to be informed about your choices. :)

    My diary is open. I'm not perfect, but I do a pretty good job and I'm not hungry all the time. Avid meat eaters always assume I eat lettuce and that's it. Silly kids... :)
  • I have been vegetarian for a couple of months only, so obviously I dont have that much experience.

    I just wanted to recommend a cookbook called "How to cook everything: vegetarian". It is more than 800 pages, but has a huge amount of cool recipes. All I ever want to eat is in there. Everythings is structured according to foodgroup, it has advice on how to handle and cut, dice, or mince every vegetable you've ever heard of (even some you havent!), and it has variations on every recipe, so you can make it vegan. I usually get bored by cookbooks, but I can honestly say that this book has changed my world!

    Arh, well, propaganda finished :blushing:
  • I had been reading some of the websites, that you guys kindly suggest! I will download a couple of books that you guys suggested (thank you!) and I'm setting an appointment next week to talk to a dietitian! So Wish me best of luck as I am entering this new chapter in my life! Thank you thank you thank you!
  • bookwormie
    bookwormie Posts: 32 Member
    I've been vegetarian for a little over a year and am mostly vegan (I eat dairy if I visit my relatives because I don't much like the conflict and they can't conceive of a meal without dairy). But I eat vegan now at home always. There's a phrase I read somewhere I keep in my head "beans and greens," ie. make sure you get a good amount of beans and dark green leafy veggies (spinach, kale, broccoli etc.) every day. Of course, if you're eating dairy, then you can adjust as necessary. Beans are sometimes high in calories, but pretty low in fat. And lentils are similar, and quicker to cook, although you can always freeze beans, if you cook them from dried. I have a cookbook I like "Vegan on the cheap" - maybe you can find it in a library. I like it because it has recipes for the more expensive prepared stuff (veggieburgers, hummus, soy cheese, all sorts of things). Tofu took me a bit to get used to, but now I've learned how to cook it, and it's fine. I made myself a goal to try a new food every month when I first went vegetarian.

    Best of luck to you - it's really not as hard as you might think it is. I'm glad I went vegetarian, I feel so much better about food and animals and health now. MFP is really helpful in tracking the nutrients, too.

    Hope I helped!
  • I've been vegetarian for a little over a year and am mostly vegan (I eat dairy if I visit my relatives because I don't much like the conflict and they can't conceive of a meal without dairy). But I eat vegan now at home always. There's a phrase I read somewhere I keep in my head "beans and greens," ie. make sure you get a good amount of beans and dark green leafy veggies (spinach, kale, broccoli etc.) every day. Of course, if you're eating dairy, then you can adjust as necessary. Beans are sometimes high in calories, but pretty low in fat. And lentils are similar, and quicker to cook, although you can always freeze beans, if you cook them from dried. I have a cookbook I like "Vegan on the cheap" - maybe you can find it in a library. I like it because it has recipes for the more expensive prepared stuff (veggieburgers, hummus, soy cheese, all sorts of things). Tofu took me a bit to get used to, but now I've learned how to cook it, and it's fine. I made myself a goal to try a new food every month when I first went vegetarian.

    Best of luck to you - it's really not as hard as you might think it is. I'm glad I went vegetarian, I feel so much better about food and animals and health now. MFP is really helpful in tracking the nutrients, too.

    Hope I helped!


    Thank you for your help, I will look for the book, I'm already trying new veggies, for example a few months a go I try Brussels sprouts for the first time and loved them!! So of course every now and then I get something that i had never try before! Thanks for your opinion and ideas!
  • kristelpoole
    kristelpoole Posts: 440 Member
    101cookbooks.com!!!!!
  • blondebiker
    blondebiker Posts: 19 Member
    Hi Jenna! I've been a vegetarian for a little over 10 years and I run too! Feel free to friend me!

    The two nutrients you need to be careful about, especially as a woman, is iron and vitamin b12.
    Foods with iron: wholegrain cereals/flours, leafy green vegetables (eg. collards, kale, broccoli and other dark greens), eggs, blackstrap molasses, legumes (eg. lentils, red beans), apricots and figs. (http://www.vegetarian-diet.info/iron-vegetarian-diet.htm)
    Foods with b12: eggs, dairy, fortified cereals and non-dairy milks (e.g. almond and soy), whey protein, yeast.

    Protein is very easy to get if you have a well-balanced diet. Quinoa and legumes (e.g. beans and lentils), whole grains and nuts all are good sources of protein and pretty easy to prepare: http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/articles/get-enough-protein-veg-diet.php

    A well-balanced diet of the above will also help make sure you don't go crazy on the (simple) carbs. For GOOD (monounsaturated) fats, avocados, nuts and olive oil are amazing sources.

    Wholefoods.com , wholefoodsmarket.com and allrecipes.com have a lot of great recipes that include nutritional information so you can monitor your intake. MFP also has a lot of these recipes already in their database so it's simple to enter! I'm sure others have great links as well! If you cook your food, you'll find that vegetarian diets tend to be easier on the wallet!

    Vegetarianism and running: I started running in the last couple years so I can't compare my performance to what I would have done as an omnivore. However, I'm continually getting faster and further ( 7 miles last Saturday) and I don't feel weak or sore so my body seems to be handling things pretty well! Just make sure if you go vegetarian to eat well and eat right!
  • Thanks for the information! I had been reading your suggestions and so far I had learn so much! Thank you Thank you!
  • dayzeerock
    dayzeerock Posts: 918 Member
    Stop by your local library and check out a variety of vegan/vegetarian cookbooks, that way you can find some you like without having to pay for them.

    Also thekindlife.com is a great source for all things vegan/vegetarian. It has recipes, forums where you can talk and ask questions with people on all levels of the veg journey. It's a really great site.

    As far as "vitamin shots"...I think you're probably referring to B12 injections. My B12 levels have always been perfect, and I've been vegan for a LOOONNNGGG time. I know meat-eaters that need the injections, but have yet to meet a veg who needs them, contrary to the popular belief that you can only get B12 from meat sources.
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