I'm new to this "Diat" thing, Need all the help I can get (help me plz <3)
mishal33
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Hi all, My name is Mishaal 23 Y/o
I've been diagnosed with an autoimmiune dissease called "VKH" about a month ago n since that moment all my life changed..
I'm on a very high dose of steriods (predinidilone to be specific) + other meds; steriods makes u hungry all the time n eat ALOT!! n it increases ur wight alot![:\](https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
I knew all that from the beginin so I wanted 2 try hard 2 keep my weight so I've been exercisin daily: 1- walkin n runnin 30-60min
2- Bicycle 30 min
3- diffrent exercises 15 mins
+ stopped ALL FAST FOODS N ALL SOFT DRINKS, n started cookin n eatin at home
I made a MAJOOOOOOOOR MISTAKE which was startin the diet without any food or diat knowledge n that n that fked me up hard (Thats y I'm askin 4 ur help n advice here)
what I thought was a good diet was: bread (was eatin daily 5-15 pieces -.-"""""), lamp beef, chicken breasts, white rice(with no salt no dressin nothin, just boiled water n rice), eggs, all kind of vegtables...
My weight was 50 kg when I was diagnosed 1 month ago and now it's 75kg (I'm 175 cm tall n this is kinda bad :P)
I knew somethin is wrong so I went on readin online about calories n stuffed n knew a couple of mistakes I did n in order to not be in the same spot again I wrote this thread to ask u is my new plan good or not??
1- STOP EATIN ANY BREAD n put n the BLACKLIST!!! (vrrrry high calarioes @_@"
2- minimize rice to few times a weak
3- eat chicken breast as much as possible
4- minimize the lamp meat to few times a week
hmmmmmmm I think I'm done now n I want ur advices about: 1- is there any advices or red flags what should I eat or avoid (like bread) ?
2- I put vegetables in almost everythin 2 make me feel fulled (always hungry), + I hate vegetables alone (salads), so any advices about dishes I can eat that can make the hunger go away n rn't full of calarois? (taste isn't important as long as it is average)
3- is there any specific exercises to lose weight? or just go run n burn some calories?
4- my diat was almostly dependent on the bread (n almost all my meals), now how can I substitued it?? (I read letus is good for sandwitches), but what about n the mornin with eggs or anythin else?
5-anythin at all on the diet or my subject would be hepfull (my knowledge on diats r -99999%)
thank u all 4 all ur help
I've been diagnosed with an autoimmiune dissease called "VKH" about a month ago n since that moment all my life changed..
I'm on a very high dose of steriods (predinidilone to be specific) + other meds; steriods makes u hungry all the time n eat ALOT!! n it increases ur wight alot
I knew all that from the beginin so I wanted 2 try hard 2 keep my weight so I've been exercisin daily: 1- walkin n runnin 30-60min
2- Bicycle 30 min
3- diffrent exercises 15 mins
+ stopped ALL FAST FOODS N ALL SOFT DRINKS, n started cookin n eatin at home
I made a MAJOOOOOOOOR MISTAKE which was startin the diet without any food or diat knowledge n that n that fked me up hard (Thats y I'm askin 4 ur help n advice here)
what I thought was a good diet was: bread (was eatin daily 5-15 pieces -.-"""""), lamp beef, chicken breasts, white rice(with no salt no dressin nothin, just boiled water n rice), eggs, all kind of vegtables...
My weight was 50 kg when I was diagnosed 1 month ago and now it's 75kg (I'm 175 cm tall n this is kinda bad :P)
I knew somethin is wrong so I went on readin online about calories n stuffed n knew a couple of mistakes I did n in order to not be in the same spot again I wrote this thread to ask u is my new plan good or not??
1- STOP EATIN ANY BREAD n put n the BLACKLIST!!! (vrrrry high calarioes @_@"
2- minimize rice to few times a weak
3- eat chicken breast as much as possible
4- minimize the lamp meat to few times a week
hmmmmmmm I think I'm done now n I want ur advices about: 1- is there any advices or red flags what should I eat or avoid (like bread) ?
2- I put vegetables in almost everythin 2 make me feel fulled (always hungry), + I hate vegetables alone (salads), so any advices about dishes I can eat that can make the hunger go away n rn't full of calarois? (taste isn't important as long as it is average)
3- is there any specific exercises to lose weight? or just go run n burn some calories?
4- my diat was almostly dependent on the bread (n almost all my meals), now how can I substitued it?? (I read letus is good for sandwitches), but what about n the mornin with eggs or anythin else?
5-anythin at all on the diet or my subject would be hepfull (my knowledge on diats r -99999%)
thank u all 4 all ur help
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If you're willing to put in the effort to follow a structured way of eating, as you've outlined in your post, it may also be a very beneficial thing for you to make sure you're weighing all your food with a kitchen scale and picking the right food entries in the MFP database and logging your intake.
Try reading the first two links on the sticky post linked below, read more of the others when you find some free time. They'll be very helpful if you choose to apply them.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-diet-and-weight-loss-help-must-reads#latest
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You can eat bread... Calories are all that matter for weight. Log everything you eat, use a food scale, and just be aware of how much energy you're using vs. consuming.0
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The calories you're taking in vs putting out are more relevant to weight loss or gain than the specific foods you're eating. You can eat bread- you just need to make sure your total calorie intake is less than your output (or the same, to maintain your weigh).
Steroids often increase appetite and water retention, so it may be challenging to eat at a large deficit, but figuring out what your actual caloric needs and current intake are is more important than making lists of "good" and "bad" foods. You do not have to each chicken breast constantly or avoid all bread. There's nothing magic about chicken breast or bad about bread. It's just a matter of calories.
Think of it like a budget- if you spend more than you make, you will be in debt, no matter how "good" those purchases were- even if all you bought was nutritious food and charitable contributions. If you spend less than you make, you won't be in debt, even if the only things you do buy are lotto tickets and booze.
Both of these paths can lead to *other* life problems, but debt and savings are a simple matter of money made vs money spent. Likewise weight loss- it's calories eaten vs calories burned.
Nutritionally dense, lower calorie options can help make sure you get a volume of food that is satisfying and meet all your nutritional requirements while you lose weight, but the only thing that determines weight gain and loss in the end is calories in vs. calories out.0 -
thnx portranse, I'm gonna read em now
Jenn the problem is I eat alotttt now n it's a big problem, so I need somethin makes me full n with low calories (which is the opposite of bread), would rly love some suggestions
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the things you're choosing to limit your intake on are things that I think you enjoy eating. Maybe you would benefit from readjusting how much of each you're having in a day.
For me, eating bread or rice by itself is not going to be anywhere near as filling including rice or bread with a fatty cut of meat or with meat and cheese and a healthy side of vegetables to bulk up the meal with minimal calorie cost.
So, if you enjoy bread as much as I enjoy fatty cuts of meat and cheese, then you may want to re-evaluate the length of your blacklisting. Limiting intake will begin your experiences with your capacity for moderation. Abstinence is extreme, but seems to be the only way some people make it through their days.
Good luck! Be consistent with your process and you'll see some results over time.0 -
With long-term steroid use, there may be a certain amount of self-control required to avoid weight gain. High-fiber, high-protein foods, frequent small meals/snacks, and lots of water can help, but many people experience more hunger than they actually "need" on steroids, so learning coping techniques for riding out hunger when you know you're eating enough calories but you're still hungry might be a necessary part of the plan.
One of the most useful things anyone ever told me was that for most of us in the first world, "hunger is not an emergency." We're taught by our culture to treat hunger like a demanding boss that needs to be responded to immediately, but if you know you're getting the nutrition you need and that excess hunger is a side-effect of your medication, it's okay to focus on techniques for distracting yourself from non-helpful hunger urges.0 -
thnx emmy, I got it
the most important thing in a diet is documantin n knowin ur calories intake n needs, n figurin away with a meals that is satisfactory n good (as long as the net calories r OK Im OK)
hmmmm, what r the good options of satisfactory low calories food?0 -
Some people do really well with increased protein. Others do better with fiber. You have to find what works for you.
I pack things full of veggies for bulk, which is something that was learned growing up as the poor kid. Shredded carrots go into just about anything with no real noticeable change in taste. Spaghetti sauce, meat loaf, etc.
I also drink a ton of water. If you look at my diary, I eat on a pretty set schedule. So, if I'm hungry, and its not a normal food time, I drink a big glass of water and wait 10 minutes. If I'm still hungry, I have a small snack. If I'm not, problem solved.
I read on one of the boards that one of the dannon light and fit greek yogurts plus an apple and string cheese is a solid snack for around 250 calories and held the poster over. I tried it, and yup. It was great. Held me for a good four hours on a day that I had to take a late lunch.0 -
Also, a stick of gum for me can be a lifesaver if I'm hungry but can't eat for whatever reason. For what ever reason, this dupes my silly brain into thinking that it's full for about 45-60 minutes.0
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Low calorie fillers include air-popped popcorn, vegetables (which you have figured out), water, tea, and artificially sweetened foods like sugar free Jell-O. You can eat about three cups air-popped popcorn which is equivalent to one slice of bread.
I think you can still eat bread, but maybe four slices a day.
I bet all the work you have done has kept you from gaining more weight than you might have. I think it will help you mentally to separate the idea of weight loss from fat loss. Because of the steroids, you will tend to carry more water weight.
For exercise, I am guessing that lifting weights might be satisfying. Building some muscle with those lovely steroids you are getting. So you might start looking trimmer even if you gain a little or stay the same. Keep up on all the other exercise you are doing.
Here's an inspiring story from another woman with a different disease.
https://www.propublica.org/article/muscular-dystrophy-patient-olympic-medalist-same-genetic-mutation0 -
You gained 25kg in 4 weeks?? You need to see your doctor. That's way beyond what you would expect to see from an unbalanced diet, or even from normal steroid side effects.
My weight was 50 kg when I was diagnosed 1 month ago and now it's 75kg (I'm 175 cm tall n this is kinda bad :P)
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ashliefisch wrote: »Some people do really well with increased protein. Others do better with fiber. You have to find what works for you.
I pack things full of veggies for bulk, which is something that was learned growing up as the poor kid. Shredded carrots go into just about anything with no real noticeable change in taste. Spaghetti sauce, meat loaf, etc.
I also drink a ton of water. If you look at my diary, I eat on a pretty set schedule. So, if I'm hungry, and its not a normal food time, I drink a big glass of water and wait 10 minutes. If I'm still hungry, I have a small snack. If I'm not, problem solved.
I read on one of the boards that one of the dannon light and fit greek yogurts plus an apple and string cheese is a solid snack for around 250 calories and held the poster over. I tried it, and yup. It was great. Held me for a good four hours on a day that I had to take a late lunch.
Hi ashlie, hmmmm a light and fit yogurt + an apple seems like a rly good snack (gonna try 4 sure) but I'm not a fan of the cheese (I do love it but I read today that a slice of cheese have about 100 calories which is tooooo much @_@)
+ the gum trick is nice (gonna need it sometimes XD)0 -
Low calorie fillers include air-popped popcorn, vegetables (which you have figured out), water, tea, and artificially sweetened foods like sugar free Jell-O. You can eat about three cups air-popped popcorn which is equivalent to one slice of bread.
I think you can still eat bread, but maybe four slices a day.
I bet all the work you have done has kept you from gaining more weight than you might have. I think it will help you mentally to separate the idea of weight loss from fat loss. Because of the steroids, you will tend to carry more water weight.
For exercise, I am guessing that lifting weights might be satisfying. Building some muscle with those lovely steroids you are getting. So you might start looking trimmer even if you gain a little or stay the same. Keep up on all the other exercise you are doing.
Here's an inspiring story from another woman with a different disease.
https://www.propublica.org/article/muscular-dystrophy-patient-olympic-medalist-same-genetic-mutation
POPCORN <333333, what a nice option to add <33333, water n vegetables I've been doin (drink about 500 ml before any meal XD) and drink durin n after also (sometimes 1 or 2 litters n a meal (which is ALOTT!), I can't drink tea (my meds cuz insomnia n I already take sleepin bills), I did't get the "artificial sweetened food" what r those? n r they snacks or what? (need more explainin plz)
+ like the positive thinkin n yeah agree exercisin is always good, I dunno about buiildin bodies n start liftin weights tho.... I'm only concerned about stop gainin weight now XD
+ gonna read the story (already put on my browser favorite list ) thnx again
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You gained 25kg in 4 weeks?? You need to see your doctor. That's way beyond what you would expect to see from an unbalanced diet, or even from normal steroid side effects.
My weight was 50 kg when I was diagnosed 1 month ago and now it's 75kg (I'm 175 cm tall n this is kinda bad :P)
sry I was 70kg n gained 5 kilos durin 1 month (mistype),how can I change it n the post?0 -
Artificially sweetened foods are those that are sweetened with Splenda, aspartame, or Stevia, usually. They may be labelled "low calorie" or "calorie-free". Essentially free foods. This includes sugar-free Jell-O.
You can still enjoy teas that are caffeine-free; they won't interfere with your sleep. There's Orange Pekoe that is caffeine free (read the labels), and a wide range of herbal teas.
I am guessing with all your restrictions you need as much variety as you can manage.0 -
Artificially sweetened foods are those that are sweetened with Splenda, aspartame, or Stevia, usually. They may be labelled "low calorie" or "calorie-free". Essentially free foods. This includes sugar-free Jell-O.
You can still enjoy teas that are caffeine-free; they won't interfere with your sleep. There's Orange Pekoe that is caffeine free (read the labels), and a wide range of herbal teas.
I am guessing with all your restrictions you need as much variety as you can manage.
NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE <33333333, suger free jello
thnx Jganto sooooooo much, the artificially sweetened food seems like a great fun substitute for snacks (along with popcorn)
caffeine free tea, gonna try it 4 sure
Agreeeee!!!! Especially that I'm gonna be on these meds for years, So I need all the variety I can manage XD0 -
As others have said, it is a Calorie in < calorie out to lose weight. Yes you can eat everything, just not all in one day. I eat bread but choose to eat a 12 grain lite bread that is 45 Cal a slice and limit it to 2 slice a day at most but wouldn't need to if it fits in my Calorie goal. I am eating at about 1300 cal so don't have much room to play with. I weigh everything and make my portions (the amount I eat) to match the serving size (in grams to be more accurate). MFP has a huge food database and makes it easy to log your foods. I am very sedentary so do not exercise. My choice as I also have health limitations. I make room for snacks, find vegetables to be filling, love my salads but I see you do not. Squash and cauliflower are good fillers for hot dishes. I also will use my crock pot a lot. If you don't have one, pick one up, they are a lifesaver. I actually have 4 different sizes. I keep chocolate chips in the house (remember portion sizes and weigh) for when I need Chocolate. There are some microwave poppers that will pop popcorn successfully without the oil and fats.0
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namelesshere wrote: »As others have said, it is a Calorie in < calorie out to lose weight. Yes you can eat everything, just not all in one day. I eat bread but choose to eat a 12 grain lite bread that is 45 Cal a slice and limit it to 2 slice a day at most but wouldn't need to if it fits in my Calorie goal. I am eating at about 1300 cal so don't have much room to play with. I weigh everything and make my portions (the amount I eat) to match the serving size (in grams to be more accurate). MFP has a huge food database and makes it easy to log your foods. I am very sedentary so do not exercise. My choice as I also have health limitations. I make room for snacks, find vegetables to be filling, love my salads but I see you do not. Squash and cauliflower are good fillers for hot dishes. I also will use my crock pot a lot. If you don't have one, pick one up, they are a lifesaver. I actually have 4 different sizes. I keep chocolate chips in the house (remember portion sizes and weigh) for when I need Chocolate. There are some microwave poppers that will pop popcorn successfully without the oil and fats.
k thnx, gonna try the Squash and cauliflower with the hot dishes now
I dont have a crock pot, dunno what's it benifit n how 2 use t? is it good n healthier? n what can I cook with it? is it easy to use?
if it's good it's gonna be a great option to add to my choices of meals 0
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