Probiotics

karmaheart
karmaheart Posts: 75 Member
edited November 29 in Food and Nutrition
What are the best probiotics to buy? I'm using Nutrition Now PB8 and haven't really noticed any improvement in my acid reflux, etc.

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  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    There is not much scientific evidence that probiotics do anything for you. I'd save my money...
  • MelaniaTrump
    MelaniaTrump Posts: 2,694 Member
    edited February 2016
    I'm not finding information where they help with acid reflux.
    This is what I'm finding:

    Irritable bowel syndrome
    Inflammatory bowel disease (IBD)
    Infectious diarrhea (caused by viruses, bacteria, or parasites)
    Antibiotic-related diarrhea
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/probiotics/


    Conclusion

    Probiotics are useful for the prevention of antibiotic-associated diarrhea. Probiotics may be helpful in preventing other overgrowth syndromes or diseases associated, and perhaps with perturbations of the gut microbial flora such as IBS and colic. Probiotics are foreign bacteria that are not a normal part of your GI tract; they do not enhance your immune system and, in normal people do not promote the nebulous bowel health. If you are a normal human, with a normal diet, save your money. Probiotics have nothing to offer but an increased cost.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    http://www.livescience.com/46298-the-lowdown-on-probiotics.html




    The term "probiotic" is misused so often that a group of experts has taken a fresh look at what probiotics really are, and examined what scientists have learned about them in recent years.

    Probiotics are generally thought of as the "good" bacteria in the body. Experts define probiotics as live microorganisms which confer health benefits when present in adequate amounts. Much of the current research on probiotics is focused on examining which bacterial species may have health benefits, and what those benefits may be.

    But there's still enough confusion surrounding the concept of probiotics and what they can offer that some governments do not even allow the term to appear on product labels, to protect consumers from unfounded health claims.

    In a new consensus statement, an international group of researchers reviewed the scientific evidence and concluded that for most strains of well-studied probiotics, the evidence has grown enough to say probiotics support digestive health.

    "When you look at findings from a variety of studies on different end points that look at some aspect of digestive health, the combined evidence suggests that digestive health is a core benefit of many probiotic species," said Mary Ellen Sanders, a food science researcher and consultant who was one of the experts on the panel, as well as executive science officer for the organization that convened the panel. [5 Ways Gut Bacteria Affect Your Health]

    However, the evidence for whether probiotics have health effects on other systems in the body wasn't as strong — the scientific findings were either not as convincing or too strain-specific to be considered core benefits of probiotics in general, Sanders said. For example, many studies have shown that different probiotics can impact immune function in different ways. But because the effects of probiotic strains can vary broadly, and immune-system effects are incredibly diverse, the panel decided that an immune-system boost should not be considered a core benefit of probiotics, Sanders said.

    The panel of researchers, convened by an industry group called the International Scientific Association for Probiotics and Prebiotics (ISAPP), published their findings this week in the journal Nature Reviews Gastroenterology & Hepatology.
  • Equus5374
    Equus5374 Posts: 462 Member
    I take daily probiotics (and eat yogurt) due to a history with IBS. I find they do keep me, um, solid. However I still have acid reflux due to the acidic fruits and veggies I consume. I buy mine at WalMart.
  • cosmo_momo
    cosmo_momo Posts: 173 Member
    I just eat a probiotic yogurt every day and it really helps my digestive system. Keeps me regular ;) and cheaper than pills, I'd imagine.
  • AngelAura777
    AngelAura777 Posts: 225 Member
    Kefir, saurkraut & kombucha are good probiotic foods to include in your diet. Also high fiber through eating lots of fibrous veg helps clear out toxins.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
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    Kefir, saurkraut & kombucha are good probiotic foods to include in your diet. Also high fiber through eating lots of fibrous veg helps clear out toxins.

    which toxins?
  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    Kefir, saurkraut & kombucha are good probiotic foods to include in your diet. Also high fiber through eating lots of fibrous veg helps clear out toxins.

    what does fiber have to do with probiotics?
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
    edited February 2016
    I did a lot of research on probiotics and decided to take Culturelle, which was rated highly. It has helped my digestion immensely. I don't have to scope out the restroom in every location I visit.

    And I say this from the position of a person who doesn't really take supplements at all. I listened to an outstanding podcast on probiotics. If I can find it again, I'll post the link. But here is the link to lab-tested ones: https://labdoor.com/rankings/probiotics
  • SherryTeach
    SherryTeach Posts: 2,836 Member
  • brichic
    brichic Posts: 5 Member
    If you have acid reflux it's actually probably low stomach acid, try taking a digestive enzyme or Betaine HCL with pepsin!

    If you're really looking for a good probiotic make sure it's refrigerated, and that each strain is protected.
    - look for lactobacillus acidophilus
  • Strawblackcat
    Strawblackcat Posts: 944 Member
    brichic wrote: »
    If you have acid reflux it's actually probably low stomach acid, try taking a digestive enzyme or Betaine HCL with pepsin!

    If you're really looking for a good probiotic make sure it's refrigerated, and that each strain is protected.
    - look for lactobacillus acidophilus

    Depending on the probiotic, it doesn't HAVE to be refrigerated. I take soil-based (Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra) probiotics, which can be stored at room temperature. Some other higher-end probiotics come in specialized bottles that are moisture resistant, which allow them to be stored on the shelf. Don't get me wrong, most good ones do need to be in the fridge, but not all of them do.
  • finneyjason218
    finneyjason218 Posts: 166 Member
    Wetcoaster wrote: »
    https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/probiotics/


    Conclusion

    Probiotics are useful for the prevention of antibiotic-associated diarrhea. Probiotics may be helpful in preventing other overgrowth syndromes or diseases associated, and perhaps with perturbations of the gut microbial flora such as IBS and colic. Probiotics are foreign bacteria that are not a normal part of your GI tract; they do not enhance your immune system and, in normal people do not promote the nebulous bowel health. If you are a normal human, with a normal diet, save your money. Probiotics have nothing to offer but an increased cost.

    This is a great website for all pseudoscience questions! If you think someone is trying to sell you junk, or if you think you might be selling yourself junk, this website is a good place to start
  • mean_and_lean
    mean_and_lean Posts: 164 Member
    I use this probiotic: lifeextension.com/vitamins-supplements/item20831/ultimate-flora-critical-care. It has to be refrigerated though but that's not a big issue. I also take a prebiotic which is the food for the probiotic.
  • perdygreeneyes
    perdygreeneyes Posts: 25 Member
    My Dr. Recommended a probiotic and meta-mucil as well! I struggle with acid reflux and have been severely bloated in things I eat. Just had endoscopy done yesterday and I have a inflamed esophagus and upper stomach.I'm now on 80 Mg's of omeprazole :(
  • perdygreeneyes
    perdygreeneyes Posts: 25 Member
    My Dr. Recommended a probiotic and meta-mucil as well! I struggle with acid reflux and have been severely bloated in things I eat. Just had endoscopy done yesterday and I have a inflamed esophagus and upper stomach.I'm now on 80 Mg's of omeprazole :(
    I think my point was , using the probiotic (culterelle) and taking meta-mucil capsules, plus changing my diet I began to lose weight, and my stomach went down tremendously in a matter of 2 months .
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,030 Member
    Probiotics are basically pseudoscience right now. There's no compelling peer review clinical studies showing that they achieve what many sellers claim.

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  • elaineamj
    elaineamj Posts: 347 Member
    My husband finds he needs active cultures to stay regular. I am now making my own yogurt (which I love eating) to make sure I have plenty of live, active cultures. Doesn't seem to make much difference to me, but its low cal, yummy, and probably pretty nutrient dense. Also considering making kefir.
  • karmaheart
    karmaheart Posts: 75 Member
    I agree with you! I have less acid reflux and my stomach is much flatter since I started using them. I'm sure I will not get sick as much either
    My Dr. Recommended a probiotic and meta-mucil as well! I struggle with acid reflux and have been severely bloated in things I eat. Just had endoscopy done yesterday and I have a inflamed esophagus and upper stomach.I'm now on 80 Mg's of omeprazole :(
    I think my point was , using the probiotic (culterelle) and taking meta-mucil capsules, plus changing my diet I began to lose weight, and my stomach went down tremendously in a matter of 2 months .

  • SamathaDain
    SamathaDain Posts: 17 Member

    This is a really great podcast!
  • MostlyWater
    MostlyWater Posts: 4,294 Member
    DH drink goat kfir, eats yogurt too, and we get naturally fermented vegetables for him as well.

    Have you tried drinking buttermilk or kombucha?
  • octhawk
    octhawk Posts: 51 Member
    edited February 2016
    VSL-3 is said to help with IBD. No idea if any probiotics help with acid reflux, though

    Whatever you end up getting, get the stuff that has to be rrefrigerated
  • ASKyle
    ASKyle Posts: 1,475 Member
    I haven't' heard of probiotics for acid reflux.

    For me, I take them when I take antibiotics to reduce my risk of yeast infections.
  • brb_2013
    brb_2013 Posts: 1,197 Member
    Honestly skip the pills and try Kefir. I can buy it at most grocery stores, my favorite brand is Nancy's Organic, they don't add sugar to the fruit blends and it's basically drinkable yogurt. The probiotic bacteria helps more in the guts though than the stomach, I've never had it help with acid but my IBS symptoms are greatly reduced and I rarely need to use medicinces for constipation anymore. I don't even have to drink it every day anymore, every other works fine. If I go two days though I tend to see my problems resurface. I had tried three different types of supplements containing probiotic (well, they SAID they did), and none had the quick impact of Kefir. Give it three or four days of daily consumption (whatever serving you enjoy, I drink 8oz usually) and you will know if it's helping or not.
  • karmaheart
    karmaheart Posts: 75 Member
    brb_2013 wrote: »
    Honestly skip the pills and try Kefir. I can buy it at most grocery stores, my favorite brand is Nancy's Organic, they don't add sugar to the fruit blends and it's basically drinkable yogurt. The probiotic bacteria helps more in the guts though than the stomach, I've never had it help with acid but my IBS symptoms are greatly reduced and I rarely need to use medicinces for constipation anymore. I don't even have to drink it every day anymore, every other works fine. If I go two days though I tend to see my problems resurface. I had tried three different types of supplements containing probiotic (well, they SAID they did), and none had the quick impact of Kefir. Give it three or four days of daily consumption (whatever serving you enjoy, I drink 8oz usually) and you will know if it's helping or not.
    I will give it a try...Thank you

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