Will this cause me to stall?

Kasper2010
Kasper2010 Posts: 17 Member
edited November 29 in Health and Weight Loss
I signed up for the fitbit trainer trail, and it changed my activity level to lightly active and is now telling me I need 2300 calories a day to loose 2lbs a week.... I barely make it to 1800 a day. I have also noticed a stall in my weight loss the last 2 weeks. I usually burn about 3,200-3,400 calories a day and eat 1500-1900 a day. Is it just me or do the amount of calories my fitbit is telling me to eat way too high? (MFP is saying I need to eat 2200 for lightly active, I currently weight 315lbs)
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  • tross0924
    tross0924 Posts: 909 Member
    Well if you take the average burn of 3300 and eat 2300 then your down 1000 calories a day which is 2 lbs a week.
  • Kasper2010
    Kasper2010 Posts: 17 Member
    So there is a chance I have accidentally thrown myself into starvation mode..... well poo. I didn't realize I was actually that active and have been using sedentary calories.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member

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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Kasper2010 wrote: »
    So there is a chance I have accidentally thrown myself into starvation mode..... well poo. I didn't realize I was actually that active and have been using sedentary calories.

    Starvation mode is a myth.
  • Kasper2010
    Kasper2010 Posts: 17 Member
    edited February 2016
    Starvation mode, as in I have slowed my metabolism down due to the lower caloric intake because the body becomes more efficient, requiring fewer calories to perform the necessary daily functions for survival.

    I log every bite, even if I "cheat" I weigh all my food. I am always under by 1500+ calories a day (based on my fitbits calorie burn) and have no weight loss (except water fluctuation) in 2 weeks
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    Do you weigh your food?

    Stalls are pretty normal. I would suggest following the higher calorie amounts though! That will still be a big deficit and you'll see the weight come off over time. It's good to eat MORE food, your body gets more nutrients, and you have more room to cut down later as your calorie needs get smaller.
  • jakeziskin1
    jakeziskin1 Posts: 175 Member
    It's all about honestly and numbers. If you truly are burning 1500+ calories a day, that would equal 10500 a week equaling 3lbs of body fat.
  • jakeziskin1
    jakeziskin1 Posts: 175 Member
    Water plays a big roll to so don't worry so much about the number always. For instance I lost 8.4 pounds in 2-1/2 hours at the gym. Weight lifting, running, swimming, and a good 45 minutes on and off in the sauna. Weight fluxiates always but if you keep at it and are honest with your self youl continue to lose! Good luck!
  • Kasper2010
    Kasper2010 Posts: 17 Member
    I do weight all my food. I weigh it raw and then cooked.

    Water does play a big role and I drink about 100 oz a day. Just want to see that 315.2 that has been there every morning go down hahaha

  • Kasper2010
    Kasper2010 Posts: 17 Member
    I am going to up my calories this next week and if that makes any changes.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    Just as an FYI, it is common to see a bump up on the scale when you increase calories, this does not mean you are gaining fat! You need to be patient and give it a few weeks to see your rate of loss with the new calorie goal. Good luck!
  • Kasper2010
    Kasper2010 Posts: 17 Member
    Thank you @girlviernes
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    If you aren't losing weight with what you are eating, I don't think the answer is to eat more. Best of luck to you though.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    I don't think 2 weeks says much about whether someone is losing or not. Gotta watch the trends :)
  • Kasper2010
    Kasper2010 Posts: 17 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    If you aren't losing weight with what you are eating,

    I eat whole foods 90% of the time, am completely sugar free and gluten free. I eat organic and grass fed. What else should I do?
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    Kasper2010 wrote: »
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    If you aren't losing weight with what you are eating,

    I eat whole foods 90% of the time, am completely sugar free and gluten free. I eat organic and grass fed. What else should I do?

    You should cut out the meat because meat is pointless in todays society.
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    Two weeks is not enough time to assume you're at a stall. A plateau is anything beyond 6-8 weeks, and sometimes that's an underestimate. Because starvation mode does not exist, I feel like upping your calories will have the opposite effect than what you're searching for.
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    Weight loss does not always follow immediately. If you cut 500 calories every day, it does not mean you will see 0.2 drop every day or every other day. It does not mean you will drop 1 pound every 7 days. I can go 2 weeks with no drop, then Whoosh! I drop 2-3 pounds in a day or two. It's certainly not because I had a deficit of 10,000 calories the day before! When I burn more calories, I don't immediately see a drop, it might lag as much as 1-2 weeks.

    I find it to be very helpful to weigh daily and track it in an app like Happy Scale. It shows your trends, history, etc, so it's easy to see the up and down fluctuation patterns. I might be bummed out because I haven't seen a drop in awhile, then I look at past trends and see the same pattern happens every few weeks. And it's NOT because of TOM at this point in my life. lol
  • 42firm03
    42firm03 Posts: 115 Member
    Not eating enough does not cause a stall.

    Now water retention will. A new or more aggressive excercise routine can cause you to hold water that masks fat loss. Drinking water does not cause water retention.

    Success should be measured over 6-8 weeks worth of data. Not 2 or 3.

    Trust the process. Eat to your goal. Log accurately. Note 6-8 week averaged results and adjust your intake accordingly.

    It's your body's job to produce the results and it will do it in its own sweet time (unfortunately if you are impatient like me)
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    edited February 2016
    OMP33 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.

    The 3500 is her TDEE, not just exercise calories, and that's entirely possible for someone weighing 315 lbs.
  • MsBuzzkillington
    MsBuzzkillington Posts: 171 Member
    OMP33 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.

    Dude, you know like... your body is burning calories doing absolutely nothing but laying on the floor surviving right? Your body is burning calories just to stay alive and do absolutely nothing else. So of course your body is going to burn calories while you sleep.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    OMP33 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.

    Dude, you know like... your body is burning calories doing absolutely nothing but laying on the floor surviving right? Your body is burning calories just to stay alive and do absolutely nothing else. So of course your body is going to burn calories while you sleep.

    Yes I know you burn while you sleep, but it should not be factored into exercise on MFP for the day or logged as 800 calories burned.
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    OMP33 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.


    The charge hr has a heart rate monitor. Is it 100% accurate? Of course not. It still gives me a ball park that has proven to be true based on my loss and gains. But what you are essentially telling people is that because you don't, no one can, which essentially becomes useless advice. You have no idea of the OPs stats; thus, you can't accurate tell them what they are burning.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.

    The 3500 is her TDEE, not just exercise calories, and that's entirely possible for someone weighing 315 lbs.

    TDEE is different from calories burned through exercise.
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    edited February 2016
    OMP33 wrote: »
    kami3006 wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.

    The 3500 is her TDEE, not just exercise calories, and that's entirely possible for someone weighing 315 lbs.

    TDEE is different from calories burned through exercise.

    She did not say that her 3500 is burned through exercise. The 3500 is her entire day, including her exercise. Just as I stated that my entire day was 3500. So yes, 3500 is her TDEE.

  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    kami3006 wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard. Fitbit lies and it would be better to get a heart rate monitor to sync with your phone to really track how many calories you burn, that's the only accurate way to do so. Eat 2000 calories a day, keep fat low, and burn 500 calories a day. That's how you do it.

    It is very possible to burn that much. As a teacher, I range 15-20k steps along with exercising and weight lifting. On those days I burn about 3500 a day, using my Fitbit, and it has been accurate since I began using it (calorie wise). So that isn't necessarily true. Nor is your comment on her eating meat necessary.

    A fitbit doesn't have a heart beat monitor. So there's no way it can accurately tell how many you burn. When I use my fitbit, I wake up every morning with it saying I've already burned 800 calories..? That's absurd. The only time I've burned 3k calories in a day is when I biked for 3.5 hours in blistering heat with my heart beat monitor telling me so. At most if you walk, maybe 800 calories a day in walking.

    The 3500 is her TDEE, not just exercise calories, and that's entirely possible for someone weighing 315 lbs.

    TDEE is different from calories burned through exercise.

    She did not say that her 3500 is burned through exercise. The 3500 is her entire day, including her exercise. Just as I stated that my entire day was 3500. So yes, 3500 is her TDEE.

    I would say closer to 3000 would be TDEE.
  • rankinsect
    rankinsect Posts: 2,238 Member
    edited February 2016
    OMP33 wrote: »
    There's just no way you're burning that much a day. When I cycle for 2 hours I only burn 1800 calories, and I go hard.

    It's very possible to burn that much. Simply existing at 315 pounds burns a ton (I know, I was there). My TDEE, which is what Fitbit calculates, is around 3200 calories, as estimated by a six-month trend of my weight and my quite accurate food logging.

    Fitbit is not the same as logging exercise calories. Fitbit calculates your TDEE: that is, it estimates your BMR + NEAT + exercise all lumped together. MFP is smart enough to know that when you sync a fitbit, it should use the Fitbit's TDEE estimations in place of MFP's own BMR/NEAT calculations.

    So a Fitbit telling you that you burned 800 calories sleeping is not at all the same thing as a non-fitbit user logging 800 calories of exercise.
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