Sugar
iatricjb
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I'm confused. On one hand we're encouraged to eat more fruit and vegetables. When I eat lots of fruit I exceed my sugar limit in MFP?? Thoughts?
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WHO and other organizations advocate limiting your "added" sugars. They don't want you to limit fruits and vegetables regardless of your overall sugar intake.0
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I track fiber instead of sugar.0
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I do not count sugar in fruit or vegetables. Broccoli has sugar.
Added sugars (I might count if I'm bored).
I tend to avoid snacks with more than 10 grams of added sugar.0 -
Does MFP a track added sugars versus total sugar? I don't see it unless it's a Premium feature??0
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queenliz99 wrote: »I track fiber instead of sugar.
Same here. If you don't have a medical reason to watch your sugar intake, it's fine.0 -
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Does MFP a track added sugars versus total sugar? I don't see it unless it's a Premium feature??
No. Unless they start differentiating them on food labels there's nothing MFP can do.
But either way, it doesn't matter too much where the sugar came from, unless you have diabetes or something.0 -
I too, track fiber instead of sugar. Fruits and veggies are processed differently in your body than refined sugars so don't worry about how much sugar your getting from natural foods.0
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I raise the issue because of the new 2015 guidelines. Seems like MFP should differentiate added sugars although the long article on Sugars says they're all the same. I wish an expert would clarify.0
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stevencloser wrote: »Does MFP a track added sugars versus total sugar? I don't see it unless it's a Premium feature??
No. Unless they start differentiating them on food labels there's nothing MFP can do.
But either way, it doesn't matter too much where the sugar came from, unless you have diabetes or something.
Food labels DO list Added Sugar!
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I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, just saying
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I have not seen a food label that separates added sugar count from natural sugars by number.
Would love to see that example so I can learn.0 -
I raise the issue because of the new 2015 guidelines. Seems like MFP should differentiate added sugars although the long article on Sugars says they're all the same. I wish an expert would clarify.
Sugars are sugars. The only difference between natural and added sugar is that the added sugar does not come with fiber and other nutrients by itself unless the food it's in has them.
Table sugar is a 50/50 mix of glucose and fructose and gets extracted out of sugar cane or sugar beet, two plants that naturally produce a lot of it.
In your body, that table sugar gets split into its two components glucose and fructose and those get processed further to fuel your body or get stored. This is the same that happens with natural sugars too, since added sugar is a natural sugar too, just taken out of the plant it comes from. Pineapple, peaches and clementines for example contain a lot of the same type of sugar that table sugar is too.
Fiber slows down the digestion of sugars, which some people who have to watch their blood sugar levels find helpful. On the other hand, having something with added table sugar in a or shortly before/after a meal containing fiber or other nutrients will have a similar effect.0 -
When I took some classes on eating I was told to count the carbs and not the sugar.
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Calorie for calorie sugar ranks low on the satiety index. If you want to lose weight as painlessly as possible you would do well to reduce added sugars. But fruits and veggies come with fiber built in. Plus nutrients!0
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When I studied nutrition in college I discovered that natural sugars are not the culprit. It the refined process sugars that we need to avoid. Sugar in fruit (fructose) is low glycemic load and not unhealthy. Real fructose is also used as a substitute for refined cane sugar but difficult to find. Avoid fructose made from corn. It is highly refined and acts like refined overly processed cane and beet sugars. Real fructose is made from fruit. I use it for sweetener on oatmeal and for iced teas.0
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Wow - I had no idea products did this now.
I would avoid this snack, since if processed I stay under 10 grams total sugar.
In the ingredients the second ingredient is sugar. That's a shame. Like a candy bar.
Consider chiobani or faye
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bellabonbons wrote: »When I studied nutrition in college I discovered that natural sugars are not the culprit. It the refined process sugars that we need to avoid. Sugar in fruit (fructose) is low glycemic load and not unhealthy. Real fructose is also used as a substitute for refined cane sugar but difficult to find. Avoid fructose made from corn. It is highly refined and acts like refined overly processed cane and beet sugars. Real fructose is made from fruit. I use it for sweetener on oatmeal and for iced teas.
Fructose is fructose and acts like fructose. Your body can not tell the difference. It doesn't know what a fruit and what a vegetable is.0 -
bellabonbons wrote: »When I studied nutrition in college I discovered that natural sugars are not the culprit. It the refined process sugars that we need to avoid. Sugar in fruit (fructose) is low glycemic load and not unhealthy. Real fructose is also used as a substitute for refined cane sugar but difficult to find. Avoid fructose made from corn. It is highly refined and acts like refined overly processed cane and beet sugars. Real fructose is made from fruit. I use it for sweetener on oatmeal and for iced teas.
Also here's how sugar gets "refined".
Sugar beet gets sliced into thin slices then soaked in hot water. That extracts the sugar from the plant. The sugar water then gets dried, the brown molasses removed from the sugar by centrifuging them, the rest of the brown color gets washed away by being sprayed with water.0 -
The added sugar entry is not on my container of Dannon Yogurt. It only has one sugar entry...I just bought it this week.0
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Also also, as I said, there's many fruits that are high in the exact same sugar that is table sugar. Pineapples get 50% of their calories from it for example. http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-009009000000000000000.html?maxCount=740
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JanetYellen wrote: »Wow - I had no idea products did this now.
I would avoid this snack, since if processed I stay under 10 grams total sugar.
In the ingredients the second ingredient is sugar. That's a shame. Like a candy bar.
Consider chiobani or faye
The information is available but rarely will you see it broken out on the label.
I buy Dannon products...added sugar is not listed on any of them.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Does MFP a track added sugars versus total sugar? I don't see it unless it's a Premium feature??
No. Unless they start differentiating them on food labels there's nothing MFP can do.
But either way, it doesn't matter too much where the sugar came from, unless you have diabetes or something.
Food labels DO list Added Sugar!
This was a proposed new regulation last year but as of now, labels only list total sugar; they don't have to break out added sugar separately (in the U.S.).0 -
bellabonbons wrote: »When I studied nutrition in college I discovered that natural sugars are not the culprit. It the refined process sugars that we need to avoid. Sugar in fruit (fructose) is low glycemic load and not unhealthy. Real fructose is also used as a substitute for refined cane sugar but difficult to find. Avoid fructose made from corn. It is highly refined and acts like refined overly processed cane and beet sugars. Real fructose is made from fruit. I use it for sweetener on oatmeal and for iced teas.
This is quite silly. Its disturbing to think that you could have learned this at any accredited college. The glycemic index of fructose does not change depending on its source. High fructose corn syrup is a blend of fructose and glucose, and its glycemic index depends on the ratio of fructose to glucose in it. The higher the percentage of glucose, the higher the glycemic index. Corn-derived HFCS can have 42 to 90% fructose. The most commonly used syrup has 55% fructose and 45% glucose. Since fructose has a lower glycemic index than glucose, if you had a 100% fructose preparation (which would HAVE to be highly processed no matter the source) it would have a lower GI than glucose. You can also order it online, and it makes an incredibly tasty fruit pie.
The glycemic index of fruits varies from fruit to fruit, and depends on the amount of sugar in a particular fruit as well as the amount of other carbohydrates.
And in any case there is nothing inherently unhealthy about consuming high-glycemic-index foods unless you have a health problem involving insulin production or resistance. Except inasmuch as sugar adds a lot of calories to a diet. A person whose body has a normal insulin response has no reason to worry about glycemic index.0 -
sheermomentum wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Does MFP a track added sugars versus total sugar? I don't see it unless it's a Premium feature??
No. Unless they start differentiating them on food labels there's nothing MFP can do.
But either way, it doesn't matter too much where the sugar came from, unless you have diabetes or something.
Food labels DO list Added Sugar!
This was a proposed new regulation last year but as of now, labels only list total sugar; they don't break out added sugar separately.
Fooducate has it for all the entries in their database. I've asked them how they determine it if it's not on the label. I'll post their answer ... If I get one.
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sheermomentum wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Does MFP a track added sugars versus total sugar? I don't see it unless it's a Premium feature??
No. Unless they start differentiating them on food labels there's nothing MFP can do.
But either way, it doesn't matter too much where the sugar came from, unless you have diabetes or something.
Food labels DO list Added Sugar!
This was a proposed new regulation last year but as of now, labels only list total sugar; they don't break out added sugar separately.
Fooducate has it for all the entries in their database. I've asked them how they determine it if it's not on the label. I'll post their answer ... If I get one.
Just because they companies don't have to label it by law, doesn't mean they don't know. There are several companies that compile and sell nutrition data for packaged products. My guess is that Fooducate is either buying one of those databases, or compiling their own by gathering data directly from food manufacturers.0 -
I'm confused. On one hand we're encouraged to eat more fruit and vegetables. When I eat lots of fruit I exceed my sugar limit in MFP?? Thoughts?
You're supposed to eat more vegetables, and someone then conflated fruit into the plan to make it more saleable. Now it's swung round to be "fruitsandvegetables" as a composite entity.
If you eat 6 serving of fruit a day you're off the radar anyway, the advice is trying to get the population average up to 1 or 2. You can choose lower sugar options too.0 -
bellabonbons wrote: »When I studied nutrition in college I discovered that natural sugars are not the culprit. It the refined process sugars that we need to avoid. Sugar in fruit (fructose) is low glycemic load and not unhealthy. Real fructose is also used as a substitute for refined cane sugar but difficult to find. Avoid fructose made from corn. It is highly refined and acts like refined overly processed cane and beet sugars. Real fructose is made from fruit. I use it for sweetener on oatmeal and for iced teas.
Was this 'college' in the far away land of Fantasia?0 -
Raw sugar = good
Processed sugar = bad0
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