Always Hungry?: Conquer Cravings, Retrain Your Fat Cells... anyone know anything?

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Always Hungry?: Conquer Cravings, Retrain Your Fat Cells, and Lose Weight Permanently by David Ludwig (Author)

I like the idea that I can teach my body to produce less Insulin... anyone have experience with diets like this one or this one specifically?
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  • crazyjerseygirl
    crazyjerseygirl Posts: 1,252 Member
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    Isn't that called "diabetes"?
  • jmearbell
    jmearbell Posts: 1 Member
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    my husband and I are at the end of our third week following this plan. I am down 8 lbs by following the eating plan and no working out. He is down 18 lbs- he wears a fitbit and gets his 10,000 steps in daily, sometimes on the treadmill
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    Not read the book, I work on getting my blood glucose down and keeping it down to allow insulin to fall so I'm onboard with the ideas.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.
  • umayster
    umayster Posts: 651 Member
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    Just started reading the book, but have been eating very low carb since June and hit goal in December. I'm very interested in his formula as low carb really fixed my cravings (and several other issues) and I'll be eating this way for life.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,464 Member
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    Fat cells cannot be "retrained". Do they hold seminars for your fat cells to learn how to behave or what???!!!
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
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    nvmomketo wrote: »
    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.

    Watch out buddy, fat can make a person insulin resistant.
  • ninerbuff
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    Lol, the fat cells have one main purpose..........to store excess energy. You CAN'T retrain them NOT to do it. It's basically a low carb approach (nothing wrong with that if that's what someone likes) and just another sensational way to advertise it so he can compete with other authors on sales.

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  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
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    Getting in more fat and generally more nutrient dense food has made me less hungry and cravy. Don't know if insulin or uneducated fat cells had anything to do with it, but I'm much more relaxed around food and eating has become more enjoyable.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.

    Watch out buddy, fat can make a person insulin resistant.

    IR is why I had to reduce carbs. I am insulin resistant. Eating low carb is the only way I can control my blood glucose throughout the day. It works wonderfully for me. Fats don't elevate my BG so my diet is around 75% fat.

    My doctor is very pleased and I haven't felt this good in a couple of decades.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
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    nvmomketo wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.

    Watch out buddy, fat can make a person insulin resistant.

    This is why I had to reduce carbs. I am insulin resistant. Eating low carb is the only way I can control my blood glucose throughout the day. It works wonderfully for me. Fats don't elevate my BG so my diet is around 75% fat.

    My doctor is very pleased and I haven't felt this good in a couple of decades.

    Good to hear for you! But fats can make people very insulin resistant.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.

    Watch out buddy, fat can make a person insulin resistant.

    This is why I had to reduce carbs. I am insulin resistant. Eating low carb is the only way I can control my blood glucose throughout the day. It works wonderfully for me. Fats don't elevate my BG so my diet is around 75% fat.

    My doctor is very pleased and I haven't felt this good in a couple of decades.

    Good to hear for you! But fats can make people very insulin resistant.

    Eating fat does not cause insulin resistance, but being fat can.
  • OMP33
    OMP33 Posts: 308 Member
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    nvmomketo wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.

    Watch out buddy, fat can make a person insulin resistant.

    This is why I had to reduce carbs. I am insulin resistant. Eating low carb is the only way I can control my blood glucose throughout the day. It works wonderfully for me. Fats don't elevate my BG so my diet is around 75% fat.

    My doctor is very pleased and I haven't felt this good in a couple of decades.

    Good to hear for you! But fats can make people very insulin resistant.

    Eating fat does not cause insulin resistance, but being fat can.

    http://nutritionfacts.org/video/what-causes-insulin-resistance/

    “As the amount of fat in our diet gets lower and lower, insulin works better and better. This is a clear demonstration that the sugar tolerance of even healthy individuals can be impaired by administering a low-carb high-fat diet. But we can decrease insulin resistance by decreasing fat intake.”
  • umayster
    umayster Posts: 651 Member
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    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.

    Watch out buddy, fat can make a person insulin resistant.

    The bad kind or the good kind?
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    OMP33 wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    Me too. I haven't read the book yet but the idea makes sense. I eat low carb to reduce blood glucose and insulin needs.

    Watch out buddy, fat can make a person insulin resistant.

    This is why I had to reduce carbs. I am insulin resistant. Eating low carb is the only way I can control my blood glucose throughout the day. It works wonderfully for me. Fats don't elevate my BG so my diet is around 75% fat.

    My doctor is very pleased and I haven't felt this good in a couple of decades.

    Good to hear for you! But fats can make people very insulin resistant.

    Eating fat does not cause insulin resistance, but being fat can.

    http://nutritionfacts.org/video/what-causes-insulin-resistance/

    “As the amount of fat in our diet gets lower and lower, insulin works better and better. This is a clear demonstration that the sugar tolerance of even healthy individuals can be impaired by administering a low-carb high-fat diet. But we can decrease insulin resistance by decreasing fat intake.”

    What about in the short term? If I have many carbs it sends my blood glucose way up.

    I find carbs trigger cravings and over eating for me. A HC diet turns into a high calorie diet. 20 years ago when I was running 30 minutes to 3 hours a day it was not an issue. But I am less active now and cravings are larger... It won't work for me.
  • abatonfan
    abatonfan Posts: 1,123 Member
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    But wouldn't severe insulin deficiencies (as seen in type 1 diabetes and some cases of type 2 diabetes) trigger increased hunger? Insufficient insulin is produced, carbs cannot enter the cells and be utilized as energy (through glycolysis and the citric acid cycle), BG rises as the concentration of carbs in the blood stream increases, the kidneys begin to filter out those carbs through the urine, a calorie deficit may be created, and increased hunger may occur as the body is "starved".

    Mimicing your pancreas isn't fun. I'm having a joy trying to figure out how much additional insulin I need to cover a viral infection (was in the 200-250s all day yesterday because of it) -too little insulin, and I risk causing ketosis and subsequent ketoacidosis (which can be fatal if untreated), while I can die of hypoglycemia if I give too much insulin. Let's not forget that the extra stress of the viral infection can put unnecessary stress on the few beta cells that I do have left and could trigger another autoimmune attack on those cells.

    I am clueless on what they mean by "teaching your body to produce less insulin." Do they mean following the glycemic index in hopes of preventing huge phase 1 insulin spikes (If I'm remembering Bernstein's book correctly, normal people see two phases of insulin release)? Eating a keto lifestyle to minimize the amount of bolus insulin produced? Triggering an autoimmune attack on your beta cells so that you produce no insulin at all? :/
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
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    abatonfan wrote: »
    But wouldn't severe insulin deficiencies (as seen in type 1 diabetes and some cases of type 2 diabetes) trigger increased hunger? Insufficient insulin is produced, carbs cannot enter the cells and be utilized as energy (through glycolysis and the citric acid cycle), BG rises as the concentration of carbs in the blood stream increases, the kidneys begin to filter out those carbs through the urine, a calorie deficit may be created, and increased hunger may occur as the body is "starved".

    Mimicing your pancreas isn't fun. I'm having a joy trying to figure out how much additional insulin I need to cover a viral infection (was in the 200-250s all day yesterday because of it) -too little insulin, and I risk causing ketosis and subsequent ketoacidosis (which can be fatal if untreated), while I can die of hypoglycemia if I give too much insulin. Let's not forget that the extra stress of the viral infection can put unnecessary stress on the few beta cells that I do have left and could trigger another autoimmune attack on those cells.

    I am clueless on what they mean by "teaching your body to produce less insulin." Do they mean following the glycemic index in hopes of preventing huge phase 1 insulin spikes (If I'm remembering Bernstein's book correctly, normal people see two phases of insulin release)? Eating a keto lifestyle to minimize the amount of bolus insulin produced? Triggering an autoimmune attack on your beta cells so that you produce no insulin at all? :/

    I'm not pro low carb but I can answer your first question. The hunger signaling changes over a short period of days so no, one becomes used to the low carb. Plus despite what that some would have you believe there is an insulin response to protein and fat - the "overshoot" sensitivity tends to be lower (although protein can also spike insulin). In the low carb model there is relatively less need to have glucose enter cells since its low carbs .... BG doesn't spike.

    What does happen is that the presence of high fat diet has both an intracellular effect (including mTOR signaling - so some concern in muscular recovery)blocking INTRA cellular use with increased insulin response in the presence of carbs - so it's a bit opposite of what you assume. When carbs appear they are transported more efficiently but used less. High fat can be used for glycogen loading.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    eric2light wrote: »
    Anyone know anything about:
    author wrote:
    Always Hungry?: Conquer Cravings, Retrain Your Fat Cells, and Lose Weight Permanently by David Ludwig (Author)

    I like the idea that I can teach my body to produce less Insulin... anyone have experience with diets like this one or this one specifically?

    It's a pretty new book. I haven't read it yet but it's on my list. His credentials are good. I can't say I disagree with anything in this recent article on the topic.
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/12/16/dr-david-ludwig-clears-up-carbohydrate-confusion/