Something Most People Don't Seem To Know...
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You are somewhat correct in some of your ideas, but you're leaving out some important details in this post.
First, while the body does use energy sources in a kind of "order", it's not a linear process and is dependent on a LOT of factors. As in, even someone with a LOT of fat stores (ie 100+ lbs to lose) will still burn muscle along with fat. It's a small percentage of muscle, but the body cannot access all of the fat stores immediately. And, as those fat stores diminish, it becomes much more difficult for the body to access them quickly for energy purposes. So, more muscle is burned with the fat, because muscle is easier/faster to metabolize in the short term.
And yes, you have to eat less than you burn. However, you have to take into account ALL of the energy your body uses on a daily basis.
BMR is basal metabolic rate, the amount of energy your body requires to maintain basic functions such as breathing and circulation, as if in a coma. Most women have a BMR of at least 1350, up to 1600-1700 for someone who is tall.
Daily activity level is the amount of calories your body burns just doing normal daily activities, such as brushing your teeth, watching tv, cooking dinner, your job, etc. This does not include purposeful exercise. This typically adds AT LEAST 300 calories to BMR (for sedentary.)
These two numbers together represent maintenance calories, what you would eat to maintain your current weight (again, with no purposeful exercise, when using MFP's calculations.) This is the number from which your deficit is created. So, for an average woman, it looks like this (just as an example, with generic numbers):
BMR 1400
Daily Activity 400
Maintenance calories 1800
Moderate deficit for weight loss of about 500
Daily calorie requirements for weight loss - ~1300
If this woman exercises, she requires more calories, because some of those calories she ate were used to provide fuel for the exercise, and those were not accounted for in her daily requirements yet. Her TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) is higher than if she didn't exercise, and her intake must increase, or her deficit will be higher.
Now, your example of intake is sorely inadequate. Even a decent protein bar has only ~200 cals. A cup of plain yogurt is around 150 cals, flavored/sweetened around 200. We'll go with the higher one. 3 hard boiled eggs is about 233 cals. So, total.....
633 cals for the day. This is called a starvation diet and will result in malnutrition, decreased metabolism, loss of lean mass (muscle) and a host of other issues. This provides less than half of the calories required for basic functions like breathing (I don't know about you, but I don't consider breathing optional or a luxury.)
Providing enough fuel is essential. Yes, the average overweight/obese person eats too much. But large deficits, improper and insufficient nutrition, and a starvation diet, are not safe or healthy.
It may help to read these threads that explain how MFP works, metabolism, and why it is important to fuel the body properly.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/186814-some-mfp-basics
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/61706-guide-to-calorie-deficits
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/230930-starvation-mode-how-it-works0 -
I agree well said good job!0
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*rolls eyes*
you'll learn0 -
I think the way our bodies work is slightly more complicated than the original post states.
I'm going to continue to eat my exercise calories just like I have been.
I'm going to continue allowing myself a treat just like I have been.
I'm going to continue eating as many calories as I am just like I have been.
I've lost almost 60lbs doing it the way I am - so I'm doing something right.
well said. i agree completely. (congrats on the weight loss btw!)
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OMG - I'd feel like death if thats all I ate.
Surely this is just a fad diet and if in any way you mange to maintain it you'll put all the weight back on once you start eating right again.
Please follow the plan MFP has given you, it works, you only have to see peoples tickers to know that.
Terri xx0 -
*sigh*
Because this website has a built in calorie deficit, it is important to eat back most of your exercise calories. Your body needs fuel. The MINIMUM number of calories you should be consuming is 1200 per day.
*sigh*
Im sure this applies if you have done a 10 mile run, doesnt really apply to burning off 300 cals a day at the gym
I disagree.
I agree with this post! When I wasn't eating enough - I plateaued for months (Sept 2010 to May 2011). Started eating more and what do you know? Off came more weight! Eat to lose. Eat to lose. EAT TO LOSE! (And no, this isn't the green light to consume all of your calories in one sitting -- it is the green light to eat a healthy, balanced diet that consists of all the food groups out there and even a treat now and then).0 -
sounds like the crap they spew on pro ana web sites. Ana is not your friend.0
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This is NOT TRUE. My degree is Nutrition and Exercise Science going into a Doc. Your body uses different forms of energy depending on whether or not you are aerobic or anaerobic state. Which refers to the presence and absence of oxygen, respectively. Most of our cells prefer to get their energy by using oxygen to fuel metabolism. During exercise with adequate fuel and oxygen (i.e., aerobic), muscle cells can contract repeatedly without fatigue. During anaerobic or non-oxygen conditions (i.e., higher intensity exercise), muscle cells must rely on other reactions that do not require oxygen to fuel muscle contraction. This anaerobic metabolism in the cells produces waste molecules that can impair muscle contractions.
Your heart rate/oxygen intake determines what kind of energy you burn at first its fat then when you reach a high heart rate you can into anaerobic (with out oxygen).
You are in danger of burning off you muscle eating so few calories. This is NOT the way to treat your body much less lose weight. You need to eat a healthy amount of whole foods to lose weight, not to much not to little. PLEASE do not pass off information that is false leave the teaching to the professionals PLEASE it can seriously make people very sick.0 -
I think the way our bodies work is slightly more complicated than the original post states.
I'm going to continue to eat my exercise calories just like I have been.
I'm going to continue allowing myself a treat just like I have been.
I'm going to continue eating as many calories as I am just like I have been.
I've lost almost 60lbs doing it the way I am - so I'm doing something right.
well said. i agree completely. (congrats on the weight loss btw!)
Thanks!
AMEN!!!!! I hope the OP reads these responses!0 -
you are not eating.......
1......enough
2..... the right thing !
you need to get some help and get fresh veg and fruit in......................plus and this might upset some..... meat to !
the set up on this site is done so it works out how much you would burn just to stay alive then tell it how much you want to lose and how fast !
Sorry........... but what you are doing is not going to help you and i urge you to stop and think about it, and also ask people not to follow this plan.0 -
Ok so your 18 with a dim memory of a 5th gradehealth class,touting Healthy eating. I would not follow a goverment subsidized health plan...... go to the library and do some homework, talk to a nutritionest.0
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Not for nothing, and I don't debunk your opinion entierly but, wow. I bet you believe it. And I bet you will lose a ton of weight. Till you eat normally. Starving yourself makes your pants lose but, its temporary.
Also, at 1 lb lost, you are in no position to be handing out crap information.
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This is NOT TRUE. My degree is Nutrition and Exercise Science going into a Doc. Your body uses different forms of energy depending on whether or not you are aerobic or anaerobic state. Which refers to the presence and absence of oxygen, respectively. Most of our cells prefer to get their energy by using oxygen to fuel metabolism. During exercise with adequate fuel and oxygen (i.e., aerobic), muscle cells can contract repeatedly without fatigue. During anaerobic or non-oxygen conditions (i.e., higher intensity exercise), muscle cells must rely on other reactions that do not require oxygen to fuel muscle contraction. This anaerobic metabolism in the cells produces waste molecules that can impair muscle contractions.
Your heart rate/oxygen intake determines what kind of energy you burn at first its fat then when you reach a high heart rate you can into anaerobic (with out oxygen).
You are in danger of burning off you muscle eating so few calories. This is NOT the way to treat your body much less lose weight. You need to eat a healthy amount of whole foods to lose weight, not to much not to little. PLEASE do not pass off information that is false leave the teaching to the professionals PLEASE it can seriously make people very sick.
Excellent reply the OP will hopefully take to heart.
To the OP, enjoy your weight loss while it happens, eventually it will really slow down (several weeks at most). If you continue eating 500 calories a day it will possible even stop. With that there are some rather nasty potential long term consequences both in body and mind. Just for your reading interest try googling the Minnesota Starvation Project and see what happens from extremely low calories. I hope you realize that the people here, and this site are not ignorant of how to lose weight, many of us have done so. Not only that, we have done so healthily and for most of us are healthier, stronger, and more fit then when we started. I can guarantee that on 500 calories a day, you will not be.0 -
*groan* so dangerous.0
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This is NOT TRUE. My degree is Nutrition and Exercise Science going into a Doc. Your body uses different forms of energy depending on whether or not you are aerobic or anaerobic state. Which refers to the presence and absence of oxygen, respectively. Most of our cells prefer to get their energy by using oxygen to fuel metabolism. During exercise with adequate fuel and oxygen (i.e., aerobic), muscle cells can contract repeatedly without fatigue. During anaerobic or non-oxygen conditions (i.e., higher intensity exercise), muscle cells must rely on other reactions that do not require oxygen to fuel muscle contraction. This anaerobic metabolism in the cells produces waste molecules that can impair muscle contractions.
Your heart rate/oxygen intake determines what kind of energy you burn at first its fat then when you reach a high heart rate you can into anaerobic (with out oxygen).
You are in danger of burning off you muscle eating so few calories. This is NOT the way to treat your body much less lose weight. You need to eat a healthy amount of whole foods to lose weight, not to much not to little. PLEASE do not pass off information that is false leave the teaching to the professionals PLEASE it can seriously make people very sick.
Excellent reply the OP will hopefully take to heart.
To the OP, enjoy your weight loss while it happens, eventually it will really slow down (several weeks at most). If you continue eating 500 calories a day it will possible even stop. With that there are some rather nasty potential long term consequences both in body and mind. Just for your reading interest try googling the Minnesota Starvation Project and see what happens from extremely low calories. I hope you realize that the people here, and this site are not ignorant of how to lose weight, many of us have done so. Not only that, we have done so healthily and for most of us are healthier, stronger, and more fit then when we started. I can guarantee that on 500 calories a day, you will not be.
Here here, well said!, both of you!0 -
You and your body need help. Please see a nutritionist or Doctor.0
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Your goal is 100 lbs. That is too low for most adults. I think your intention is to be too skinny with little regard to your health. It's not worth it. This could lead to a psychological problem - i.e. eating disorder. Steer clear now and get happy with yourself first.
You are entirely right though. We do eat bigger portions than we ought to. Cut your portion sizes to a reasonable amount, but don't cut out food.0 -
Unbelievable. Everyone thinks they're an expert on this website. A caution to everyone: unless you are a nutritionist, you are not qualified to be telling others how many calories they should be eating and how many workout calories lost they should be eating back. Everyone is unique. For example, the goals for a person who is obese will be different from a person who is just slightly overweight. There is no cookie cutter answer...to act like there is? That's not a good idea.0
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You and your body need help. Please see a nutritionist or Doctor.
This. Your body *and* your mind need help.0 -
This is definitely the type of rubbish they post on pro-ana and pro-bulimia websites. its stupid, you cant actually think that this will work? your in starvation mode now, your just harming your body.
you should really research on what is right for your body before you start posting on here what people 'dont know'0
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