Veggies!

False. Starchy vegetables don't "slow" weight loss. You lose weight by eating at a calorie deficit.

Starches don't slow weight loss.

But starchy vegetables do tend to have more calories than non-starchy ones, so you want to make sure you're accounting for that when planning your meals. Whatever the vegetable, if you're logging the calories and hitting your calorie goal, you'll be fine.

If you're counting calories, and you fit corn and peas in your calorie budget, it doesn't matter -- won't "slow weight loss."

If you're not counting calories, and instead following a plan with a rule like "fill half your plate with veggies" or "eat two cups of veggies at lunch and two at dinner" or "eat as many veggies as you want," then yes, including calorie-dense plant foods such as peas and corn in your veggie allotment will likely "slow weight loss."

You apparently are using the calorie-counting approach. It's possible the articles you're seeing in your Facebook are coming at it from a non-calorie-counting perspective.

lemurcat12 wrote: »

ashleykayee_ wrote: »

Opinion on if all vegetables are created equal? I've been using steamable bags of mixed veggies (peas, corn, carrots, and green beans) as an afternoon snack. Today I saw three articles in my Facebook feed that says peas and corn should be avoided if possible because they are starchy and will slow weight loss. True? False? My own research brings up a fairly even amount of articles/research for and against the argument.

Appreciate your thoughts.

Typically "vegetables" means non starchy vegetables, and I wouldn't class corn or peas as such. Peas are a legume and corn is a grain. Therefore, when making dinner I'd never count either toward the vegetable course. They would be the starch course (I'd have one or the other instead of potatoes or rice or bread, etc.).

They also typically have more calories than what we think of as non starchy veg.

That said, they are fine to eat and don't slow weight loss so long as you don't exceed your calories by thinking they are lower cal than they are.

@lemurcat12 you posted a bunch of articles on Dr Katz recently and in one of them he said carrots or something unfairly got a bad rap. If you remember which one that was, would you please repost it?

kshama2001 wrote: »

lemurcat12 wrote: »

ashleykayee_ wrote: »

Opinion on if all vegetables are created equal? I've been using steamable bags of mixed veggies (peas, corn, carrots, and green beans) as an afternoon snack. Today I saw three articles in my Facebook feed that says peas and corn should be avoided if possible because they are starchy and will slow weight loss. True? False? My own research brings up a fairly even amount of articles/research for and against the argument.

Appreciate your thoughts.

Typically "vegetables" means non starchy vegetables, and I wouldn't class corn or peas as such. Peas are a legume and corn is a grain. Therefore, when making dinner I'd never count either toward the vegetable course. They would be the starch course (I'd have one or the other instead of potatoes or rice or bread, etc.).

They also typically have more calories than what we think of as non starchy veg.

That said, they are fine to eat and don't slow weight loss so long as you don't exceed your calories by thinking they are lower cal than they are.

@lemurcat12 you posted a bunch of articles on Dr Katz recently and in one of them he said carrots or something unfairly got a bad rap. If you remember which one that was, would you please repost it?

Might be GI vs GL. Carrots have a fairly high glycemic index but much lower glycemic load.

lemurcat12 wrote: »

kshama2001 wrote: »

lemurcat12 wrote: »

ashleykayee_ wrote: »

Opinion on if all vegetables are created equal? I've been using steamable bags of mixed veggies (peas, corn, carrots, and green beans) as an afternoon snack. Today I saw three articles in my Facebook feed that says peas and corn should be avoided if possible because they are starchy and will slow weight loss. True? False? My own research brings up a fairly even amount of articles/research for and against the argument.

Appreciate your thoughts.

Typically "vegetables" means non starchy vegetables, and I wouldn't class corn or peas as such. Peas are a legume and corn is a grain. Therefore, when making dinner I'd never count either toward the vegetable course. They would be the starch course (I'd have one or the other instead of potatoes or rice or bread, etc.).

They also typically have more calories than what we think of as non starchy veg.

That said, they are fine to eat and don't slow weight loss so long as you don't exceed your calories by thinking they are lower cal than they are.

@lemurcat12 you posted a bunch of articles on Dr Katz recently and in one of them he said carrots or something unfairly got a bad rap. If you remember which one that was, would you please repost it?

This one? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-katz-md/fructose-fruit_b_3694684.html

(Carrot as high GI veg warned against by pop diet purveyers.)

That was it, thanks!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-katz-md/fructose-fruit_b_3694684.html

...The value of low-glycemic eating is, in my view, very well established. But the likes of Dr. David Jenkins, who invented the glycemic index, and Dr. David Ludwig, among those prominent in the study of it, have not advised against eating fruit. But the pop-culture contortions of the message led in exactly that direction. Among them was a book called The GI Diet, representative of the breed, which warned people away not only from fruit, but from high-glycemic-index vegetables, such as carrots. My reaction was, and remains: You find me the person who can legitimately blame their obesity or diabetes on apples or carrots, and I will give up my day job and become a hula dancer!

It's been quite a few years, and there's still no grass skirt in my closet.