Elliptical vs running outside
AsrarHussain
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Hi there
I wanted to ask, is the elliptical a good alternative to running outside, I get knee and shin paib from running outside. I have a shuttle test in 5 months could I prepare on the elliptical
I wanted to ask, is the elliptical a good alternative to running outside, I get knee and shin paib from running outside. I have a shuttle test in 5 months could I prepare on the elliptical
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treadmill better replicates running outside, elliptical is not as good.0
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Hey just thought I would chime in, yes elliptical is easier on the joints (knee).
Something MORE effective would be Aqua Jogging.
Knee and Shin pain depending on your situation, could be a result of unconditioned muscles or increase in volume/intensity too quickly.
But the best advice will be if you are feeling pain take rest and recovery with ice and heat alternation.0 -
No, you can NOT prepare for a shuttle test by training on an elliptical0
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No, you can NOT prepare for a shuttle test by training on an elliptical
What is the reason the OP cannot prepare for a shuttle test on the elliptical while he/she is experiencing joint pain?
The way I see it, at least it's some form of cardiovascular exercise where he/she can play with different paces until such time as the OP's pain subsides and muscular strength increases.
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What is the reason the OP cannot prepare for a shuttle test on the elliptical while he/she is experiencing joint pain?
The way I see it, at least it's some form of cardiovascular exercise where he/she can play with different paces until such time as the OP's pain subsides and muscular strength increases.
Because you can't? Just like I can't prepare for the Olympic 110 hurdles by swimming. Or get ready for the NFL combine by shooting targets at the gun range. Keep cardio up, sure. Prep for a beep test, no.0 -
AsrarHussain wrote: »Hi there
I wanted to ask, is the elliptical a good alternative to running outside, I get knee and shin paib from running outside. I have a shuttle test in 5 months could I prepare on the elliptical
You need to sort out the knee pain, have you seen a doctor?
Doing C25k may be a good way to start you running slowly?0 -
TavistockToad wrote: »
You need to sort out the knee pain, have you seen a doctor?
Doing C25k may be a good way to start you running slowly?
Yeah, I completed the c25k, it was a good program, I progressed to the 5 km program, the pain in my shins were getting so point, they got to the point it was to painful to walk at times, I stopped all running for a month, it is better now, I dont want it to happen again.0 -
specificity of training....ya the training should mimic the event.0
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AsrarHussain wrote: »
Yeah, I completed the c25k, it was a good program, I progressed to the 5 km program, the pain in my shins were getting so point, they got to the point it was to painful to walk at times, I stopped all running for a month, it is better now, I dont want it to happen again.
Maybe start with the last couple of weeks of C25k to get back into it?0 -
AsrarHussain wrote: »
Yeah, I completed the c25k, it was a good program, I progressed to the 5 km program, the pain in my shins were getting so point, they got to the point it was to painful to walk at times, I stopped all running for a month, it is better now, I dont want it to happen again.
Have you been fitted for proper running shoes?
Working on the elliptical will help keep your cardiovascular fitness up, but other than that it isn't going to prepare you for a shuttle run.0 -
I used to be able to elliptical all day long, but I couldn't run to save my life. If you want to run outside, as someone already said you might want to see a doctor.0
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Elliptical could be great to build on cardio base, and if you do your workouts to mimic the speed and efforts of the beep test, you should gain some ground. But the motions are completely different, and finding the elliptical setting to simulate the running is hit and miss at best.
At the most I'd use it to avoid the impact injuries, and do the real running to see how it translates. I've found great gains in using the elliptical in more endurance based stuff, but I'm not sure how they would translate in higher speed running.0 -
No.
You wouldn't notice any benefits of it for that purpose.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »
Have you been fitted for proper running shoes?
Working on the elliptical will help keep your cardiovascular fitness up, but other than that it isn't going to prepare you for a shuttle run.
I was running shoes0 -
Foam rolling the calfs can help with shin pain. I use a foam roller and lacrosse ball after every run.
Elliptical is nothing like running and won't help to prepare you for anything running related.0 -
Those who say they can't and those who say they can are both usually right0
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Those who say they can't and those who say they can are both usually right
A large part of success on a bleep test is technique. Someone suffering knee and shin pain will exacerbate that in a bleep test, given the rotational stresses on the ankles and knees, as well as the need for sharp decellerations.
fwiw the originator should address why the pain is happening, rather than just continue towards worsening the problem.
Have you ever done a bleep test?0 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »
A large part of success on a bleep test is technique. Someone suffering knee and shin pain will exacerbate that in a bleep test, given the rotational stresses on the ankles and knees, as well as the need for sharp decellerations.
fwiw the originator should address why the pain is happening, rather than just continue towards worsening the problem.
Have you ever done a bleep test?
I did a bleep test 3 months ago or so, I got to level 7.7, my target is to get to level 9.2 in about 4-5 months0 -
i do elliptical and run, totally different movement and stride lengths.
it may help some, especially with cardio endurance perhaps, but again ... its different.0 -
AsrarHussain wrote: »
I did a bleep test 3 months ago or so, I got to level 7.7, my target is to get to level 9.2 in about 4-5 months
I was responding to the point immediately above mine.
But the principle remains, you need to address why you're having pain; shoes, gait, training volume, unrecovered injury etc.0 -
MeanderingMammal wrote: »
I was responding to the point immediately above mine.
But the principle remains, you need to address why you're having pain; shoes, gait, training volume, unrecovered injury etc.
If you follow the OP's (incessant) posting history, you'll find that the issue was volume, despite metric tons of advice for him to do things differently0 -
Fitnesspromiddleton wrote: »specificity of training....ya the training should mimic the event.
okay, looking at a bleep test, how would running on the treadmill mimic that event? Maybe I'm missing something, but it seem like it's just and endurance test?0 -
ScubaSteve1962 wrote: »
okay, looking at a bleep test, how would running on the treadmill mimic that event? Maybe I'm missing something, but it seem like it's just and endurance test?
You wouldn't replicate a bleep test using a treadmill.
The technique is largely about moderating pace, so that as the pace increases/ time reduces you keep up.
Notable that the majority of failures are 3 cycles after a pace change, based on some work I've seen around the effect on warning/ re-parade in the armed forces. After the pace changes people start to struggle with keeping up, and if you miss a turn, you're already a bit behind on the next cycle. That leads to burning out a little faster as you're already going harder than you should for the projected pace.
So missing the bleep three times means a withdrawal.
As I've had broken ankles I find the rotational aspect difficult, so much prefer the 2.4km threshold run as a more meaningful test.0 -
AsrarHussain wrote: »
I was running shoes
Did you go to a running shoe store and get fitted?
Also I agree you should keep taking time off for shin splints, but what did your training look like when you developed them? C25k has you run 3x a week with a rest day in between. Were you doing that or were you adding days and not taking rest days?
I'd take another 2 weeks off at least before you try to start again, but it sounds like you did too much too soon.0 -
blues4miles wrote: »
Did you go to a running shoe store and get fitted?
Also I agree you should keep taking time off for shin splints, but what did your training look like when you developed them? C25k has you run 3x a week with a rest day in between. Were you doing that or were you adding days and not taking rest days?
I'd take another 2 weeks off at least before you try to start again, but it sounds like you did too much too soon.
I followed exactly what the program said, I never got a chance to go to the running store, iv been busy, I will go through.0 -
I agree with the above...make sure your shoes are good. That is what always makes my shins start hurting. I just got a new pair of shoes and haven't had any issues at all.
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