Carbs...Carbs...Carbs....OMG Carbs EVERY WHERE!!!!

farmers_daughter
farmers_daughter Posts: 1,632 Member
edited September 28 in Food and Nutrition
So I'm trying to (somewhat ignorantly-I say that because I fully don't understand the concept yet) watch my carb intake, it seems like I go over EVERY day... I've read that carbs aren't exactly great for you in abundance.... they give you a fake burst of energy that leaves you less than satisfied and hungry as hell later.

So...I stopped by Subway this morning, thinking every where else in town has mucho carbs in everything....(I could think of anyway) I didn't want oatmeal again, (ha ha lots of carbs) So....got the flat bread, egg white, bacon, sandwich, NO cheese (Yay - that was hard), and NO sauce! (again hard) I did put some avacado on there because I'm addicted to it, tomatoes, spinach, black olives and that's it. 475 CALORIES?!?! WTF?????

I'm supposed to aim for 200.... so I just get frustrated with the lack of options, but I'm doing soo good right now and I'd really like to NOT F it up. Any suggestions, or could anybody give me the "laymans" version of how carbs really play into all this?

This kind of is a vent, but kind of a reaching out for answers too. Thanks in advance.
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  • I have been trying to watch my carbs and calories to. A friend of mine told me to get online and read about the Atkins diet, as it cuts down carbs.
  • PeachyKeene
    PeachyKeene Posts: 1,645 Member
    I try to limit carbs also. I usually have a couple of scambled eggs from McDonald's with a couple of tablespoons of fresh salsa warmed so it is kinda like a veggie omelet without the cheese. Do you have time to cook?
  • LLaDonna
    LLaDonna Posts: 126
    Bread, white rice, pasta and sugar are your enemies when you begin to fight the carb demon. I can't give you a lot of advice because I'm struggling with the carb intake too. Whole wheat pita pockets have worked well for me as an alternative when making sandwiches. I'm eating brown rice now instead of white The more you use your food diary and read recipe ideas here on MFP, the easier it gets. Good luck!
  • skinnyhappy
    skinnyhappy Posts: 152 Member
    Hi! Yes, carbs are scary, but you NEED some carbs (the good ones). Avoid anything with processed sugar, I'm afraid Subway may not be your best option as I'm not sure exactly how "fresh" their bread really is (which means more preservatives, more sugar, etc.). Stick with whole grain, seedy breads (you can even get sprouted grain breads in the freezer section at the grocery store). Also, if you aim to fulfill your daily fiber intake, the sugars shouldn't be as high. Just stay away from high fructose corn syrup (even table sugar's better for you that that stuff!).

    Whole grains and fiber do wonders for your heart, so be very mindful of the breads you're consuming. The oatmeal is definitely OK (again, as long as it's mostly carbs from fiber, not from sugar), and if you're sick of it try adding raspberries, bananas, dried apricots, raisins and/or brown sugar or honey/agave nectar to change up the flavor!

    I've been eating greek yogurt (low sugar, high protein) with low sugar granola (bear naked brand) and fresh fruit with ground flax seed mixed in for a good dose of fiber. I find this helps my morning food cravings until about noon, where I focus on protein more than carbs.

    I'm sure that wasn't as informative as you'd like but GOOD LUCK anyway!
  • bella8282
    bella8282 Posts: 188 Member
    You wont just get one answer on here.... it will start another war on protein vs carb diet. If you look under food and nutriacian and scan through the pages you will se this topic gets brought up constantly.

    Carbs can be your best friend- you just got to make them count, by choosing the right ones!

    Dont go for over processed refined carbs.
    Go for complex carbs - Vegetables , grains and pulses ... if you wish.
    and include some simple carbs - fruits.

    Carbs are not the devil- Cakes and cookies are lol :)

    I am a raw vegan- my diet is 90% fresh vegetables and fruit.
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    Simple refined sugars give you a burst of energy but no nutritional value. Complex carbs with fibre, such as whole grain/seeded bread and wild rice are very effective at giving you slow release energy and leave you feeling full for hours.
  • Chuckw40
    Chuckw40 Posts: 201
    So I'm trying to (somewhat ignorantly-I say that because I fully don't understand the concept yet) watch my carb intake, it seems like I go over EVERY day... I've read that carbs aren't exactly great for you in abundance.... they give you a fake burst of energy that leaves you less than satisfied and hungry as hell later.

    So...I stopped by Subway this morning, thinking every where else in town has mucho carbs in everything....(I could think of anyway) I didn't want oatmeal again, (ha ha lots of carbs) So....got the flat bread, egg white, bacon, sandwich, NO cheese (Yay - that was hard), and NO sauce! (again hard) I did put some avacado on there because I'm addicted to it, tomatoes, spinach, black olives and that's it. 475 CALORIES?!?! WTF?????

    I'm supposed to aim for 200.... so I just get frustrated with the lack of options, but I'm doing soo good right now and I'd really like to NOT F it up. Any suggestions, or could anybody give me the "laymans" version of how carbs really play into all this?

    This kind of is a vent, but kind of a reaching out for answers too. Thanks in advance.

    The flatbread actually has more calories and the same amount of carbs as the plain Italian bread.
  • farmers_daughter
    farmers_daughter Posts: 1,632 Member
    I struggle with waking up earlier than I do to prepare/cook something, I'd love to, but I just can't, (side note - I need to check into getting a better nights sleep, cause I lay down for bed around 830-9 ish)
    I've made little "breakfast sandwiches" at home with a thin bagel, egg, cheese, canadian bacon, and froze them....but I kinda got burned out on them too. I was hoping for having 1 packet of oatmeal, and some kind of "travel-able" protien so I get my sweet and salty kinda thing. But maybe that's not right either.

    And flatbread same calories and etc as itailian.....AHHHHH! I can't win for losing. I'll stick to my whole wheat from now on.

    Thanks everybody for all the good advice, I'll be checking out some of the posts mentioned.
  • KBjimAZ
    KBjimAZ Posts: 369 Member
    All carbs are not equal, nor are they bad. An apple grows on a tree, a potato comes out of the ground, yet some "diets" say those things are bad for you. Anything in moderation, but stay away from the processed stuff. PS why on earth are you only wanting to be at 200 calories for the most important meal of the day????
  • AlwaysWanderer
    AlwaysWanderer Posts: 641 Member
    skip potatoes/rice/pasta at dinnertime, have salad not sandwich for lunch, eggs for breakfast. Up your protein intake and low carb should follow. Fill up your plate with veggies and lean protein, drink sugar free drinks (not sodas), watch your fruit! even though is good for you, its mosty sugar. 1-2 servings a day is plenty. Go for berries, they great. As for oatmeal, have you tried adding peanut butter to it? yum. I eat mine with PB, dark chocolate (80%) and flaxeed. fat free dairy is also great. hope that helps. x
  • farmers_daughter
    farmers_daughter Posts: 1,632 Member
    All carbs are not equal, nor are they bad. An apple grows on a tree, a potato comes out of the ground, yet some "diets" say those things are bad for you. Anything in moderation, but stay away from the processed stuff. PS why on earth are you only wanting to be at 200 calories for the most important meal of the day????

    200 Calories, somewhere along the way my doctor told me:

    200 Calories for Breakfast
    100 Calorie Snack
    400 Calories for Lunch
    100 Calorie Snack
    600 Calories for Dinner
  • aprilgicker
    aprilgicker Posts: 395 Member
    Simple answer,
    If it is in a box or bag in the snack section, Don't eat it!
    If it is a fast food product served in a bag, Don't eat it!
    If it is in the freezer section and is in a box, Don't eat it!
    If it is in a Bag or box in the Breakfast section, Don't eat it!

    Hence, If it comes in a Bag or Box,
    DON'T EAT IT!

    Plain Oatmeal is in a round container
    wheat germ and Flax in a jar
    fresh fruit and veggies no packaging
    :bigsmile:
  • bizco
    bizco Posts: 1,949 Member
    All carbs are not equal. The "good" carbs contain fiber. Fruits, vegetables, whole grains like old-fashioned oatmeal, quinoa, couscous, etc. are all very beneficial for good health. When choosing bread, look for those that contain 5g of fiber per slice.

    I recommend tracking fiber in your food diary and consume at least 25-30g per day.
  • jmruef
    jmruef Posts: 824 Member
    I love Subway breakfast sandwiches and their flatbread is NUMMY. But...yeah, the calories are killer. Now when I get them it's on the English Muffin. That cuts the cals way down. You can go to their website and download a PDF of their nutritional info - that'll help you put a sandwich together before you order.
  • twinmama1987
    twinmama1987 Posts: 566 Member
    You NEED carbs! They are essential. Especially is you are working out! There are also 'good carbs' & 'bad carbs'
    remember if most of your crabs come from white bread, white rice .. etc its just going to turn to sugar and make your sugar levels spike.
  • TS65
    TS65 Posts: 1,024 Member
    I struggle with waking up earlier than I do to prepare/cook something, I'd love to, but I just can't,

    Planning ahead makes ALL the difference! Have you thought of making some sort of breakfast casserole on your day off? (easy one - http://allrecipes.com/recipe/zucchini-egg-bake/detail.aspx or just google veggie breakfast casserole). Then, all you have to do is zap it for 30 seconds in the mornings and you're ready! Easy Breezy!
  • veggievixen
    veggievixen Posts: 36 Member
    A carb is a carb the way a calorie is a calorie.

    Now for the long answer. Not all carbs are equal and different foods are better choices for different situations. Carbohydrates give us energy, how much and how quickly are the questions whose answers will give you guidance. Vegetables are mostly carbs, so is that muffin, oatmeal, and snickers bar. But you get a lot more volume and longer fullness from the veggies. The difference is how quickly they are digested and how nutritionally dense the item is. The less refined food is, the longer it takes your body to digest it and get the carbs into your blood stream where they can be used as fuel. Ideally, you want a slow steady stream of fuel. Sugar is the crack cocaine of carbs, it jacks you up and then you want more. Studies have actually been done that show it stimulates the same areas of the brain, the pleasure centers, as hard drugs. So it's all about moderation. Choosing carbs that slowly release their energy for sustained energy through out the day and small portions of sugary/refined items for pleasure or to smooth out a dip from going too long without eating. Personally, sweet potatoes, brown rice, Uncle Sam cereal, and oatmeal are my top quality carb choices along with veggies! Pairing carbs with protein is a good way to balance it out. I make oatmeal pancakes a lot, 1 egg + 1/2 c (not instant) oats + splash of milk/soy + cinnamon/ginger. It keeps me going a lot longer than just plain oatmeal because of the protein from the eggs. Conversely, post workout you want to give your body quick access to carbs so it doesn't "steal" protein from your muscles to repair itself. Post workout, 0-30 minutes, for intense sessions lasting an hour or longer, some sugar is ok because you don't want to waste all the work you did by letting your body tear it down. A fruit and protein smoothie is my go to post workout. Hope this helps. There is so much info out there, you can always ask a dietitian for a really reliable answer.
  • Suggestion.... if you don't have time EVERY morning to cook, perhaps on Sunday night or something make a 5-day supply of scrambled or hard boiled eggs, and just portion it off for each day. Warm it up and either add a serving of cheese one day, some veggies another... put it on a whole wheat english muffin the next day. I lost 50 lbs cutting carbs and breakfast is the hardest. I buy everything in the store as if I were a diabetic with low sugar or no sugar since that is the bad part of the carbs that turns to fat. Breakfast... hmmm... I also have a no-sugar added cup of yogurt, 90 calories
    oatmeal.. which is GOOD carbs.... much better to have oatmeal than fruitloops or hashbrowns
    eggs is the best thing for low carb... the egg beaters/egg whites give you a bunch of options and just change it up from day to day so it doesn't get bland or boring! Turkey breakfast sausage or bacon are good too... a yummy option
  • brneydgrlie
    brneydgrlie Posts: 464 Member
    OK, as other posters said, not all carbs are bad. What you should be eating are the COMPLEX carbohydrates - these are vegetables, low glycemic fruits (like berries), and SOME whole grains. These all contain appropriate nutrition and fiber for your body. The more natural and less processed the better. Also, the less sugar the better.

    Now, when you count carbohydrates, you should be counting NET carbs. What that means is the amount of carbs that actually effect your body the most. To figure out net carbs, subtract the grams of fiber. For instance, if a serving of broccoli is 4 grams of carbohydrates, but contains 2 grams of fiber, the NET carbs you are ingesting is only 2 grams.

    Hope this helps!
  • missbp
    missbp Posts: 601 Member
    If you are looking to watch carbs and need a quick easy lunch solution, here is a suggestion.

    Go to a deli and order a few slices of turkey lunch meat and a small container of cole slaw. Roll the slaw in the turkey and viola. Lunch!

    Michelle
  • rayneface
    rayneface Posts: 219 Member
    I have no time in the mornings either... so I do everything the night before.
    I put my 2 egg whites and 1 whole egg in a microwave safe container
    I use another container to soak my steal cut oats and have a little baggie for the dried cranberries and almond slivers to add later on.

    That way when I get to work I can just toss everything in the microwave and it's cooked by the time my water bottle is filled.

    It's all about planning. For me my breakfasts have to be big or I literally feel sick in the mornings. It's normally my biggest meal of the day.

    I agree with a previous post - if it's from a fast food establishment, or comes from the freezer section - AVOID!!!
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
    All I can say is try to make your own food at home before you leave. An Egg white omelet with spinach, tomato, peppers, onions, some low fat shredded or swiss cheese or Just salsa cooked in smart balance. Put it on a low carb tortilla or whole wheat low carb bread or pita. Low fat low sugar yogurt with some strawberries, cantalope, grapes or berries. It is great and lower in everything then what you get at subway. and a lot cheaper too. You don't have to give up a whole food group. Just find alternatives or smaller portions. 1/2 of a Sweet or White Potato. 1 oz. of Whole grain Pasta and 1/ cup brown rice. Instead of having pasta as a main dish have it as a side dish. 1 oz. with a piece of grilled fish or chicken or any meat and lots of Veggies and a salad. I would never be able to giive up a whole food group. I Just look for a better choice. Make a sandwich on one of Breads I mentioned and use 1 oz low sodium luncheon meats 1/2 oz good cheese. Put a lot of lettuce tomatoes and Hot mustard or olive oil mayo. You don't have to use a ton a little goes a long way. Snack on low fat popcorn, You can have 5 cups of that. Wheat thin crackers with 1 oz of good cheese or Tablespoon spicy hummus. I didn't think I liked humus til I tried it, the spicy one is great. Watch portions and if you can, log your food in before you eat it, you may dicide something else fits better in your day.
  • lizzil0
    lizzil0 Posts: 181 Member
    For breakfast this is what I make- it's really fast, low carb and filling-
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/258089-low-carb-microwave-muffin
  • brneydgrlie
    brneydgrlie Posts: 464 Member
    Re what your doctor told you about daily calorie intake, he's got it somewhat messed up. For breakfast, 200 calories is way too low! You need to "break your fast" from the night before and get fuel to start your day. Most doctors have not been well-educated in the field of nutrition either. A doctor I work for told me she had one class - her first year of med school!

    You should aim for your overall calorie count for the day, but make individual meals more sensible. I try to break my meals down into about equal calorie counts, while still leaving room for 2 - 3 snacks. You should be eating 4 - 6 times daily (small amounts are fine). This way of eating keeps your metabolism fired up, and also keeps blood sugars level. Level blood sugars are important, because dips and spikes cause hunger and cravings.
  • fteale
    fteale Posts: 5,310 Member
    I can't and don't cook in the mornings (I have an oil powered range that takes an age to heat up, so I only put it on for the evening), I always have muesli or porridge for breakfast, no sugar, lots of protein and fibre, and quite a few complex carbs.
  • LaJauna
    LaJauna Posts: 336 Member
    So I'm trying to (somewhat ignorantly-I say that because I fully don't understand the concept yet) watch my carb intake, it seems like I go over EVERY day... I've read that carbs aren't exactly great for you in abundance.... they give you a fake burst of energy that leaves you less than satisfied and hungry as hell later.

    So...I stopped by Subway this morning, thinking every where else in town has mucho carbs in everything....(I could think of anyway) I didn't want oatmeal again, (ha ha lots of carbs) So....got the flat bread, egg white, bacon, sandwich, NO cheese (Yay - that was hard), and NO sauce! (again hard) I did put some avacado on there because I'm addicted to it, tomatoes, spinach, black olives and that's it. 475 CALORIES?!?! WTF?????

    I'm supposed to aim for 200.... so I just get frustrated with the lack of options, but I'm doing soo good right now and I'd really like to NOT F it up. Any suggestions, or could anybody give me the "laymans" version of how carbs really play into all this?

    This kind of is a vent, but kind of a reaching out for answers too. Thanks in advance.

    Go to HULU or netflix and download or rent "FATHEAD" it will explain how carbs help/hurt our weight loss efforts. Also the avocado was a healthy choice. Yes, calorie dense but so good for your body. Some times you need to eat calorie rich foods to get the good stuff. Also I don't every settle for just eggs whites anymore. I now know that all the goodness and flavor is in the yoke!
  • LaJauna
    LaJauna Posts: 336 Member
    200 Calories, somewhere along the way my doctor told me:

    200 Calories for Breakfast
    100 Calorie Snack
    400 Calories for Lunch
    100 Calorie Snack
    600 Calories for Dinner

    If you reverse this scenerio you will have the perfect days plan! Start out with 600 calories for breakfast! You can mix it up!
  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
    It has taken me a lot of time and trial/error to get my carbs under control. I limit them to 40% of my diet (122g a day). You have to learn that if you have a pasta/rice/potato carb at dinner, you can't have one at breakfast and lunch also. You learn that no-sugar-added breads are lower in carbs. You learn that 1 slice of Ezekiel bread is more filling than 4 slices of white bread or 2 of whole wheat. You learn to balance fruits and veggie carbs with the occasional grain/rice/potato carb. I don't eat cakes, cookies, white bread/rice because it just makes me want more. I've learned that plenty of "healthy" foods are still high in carbs and calories and have to be limited.

    Yesterday, I had linguini for the first time in a long time, and was 27g over in my carb category for the day. Once in a while...ok. But it's a learning process.

    Keep playing with your food choices and you'll eventually find what works best for you! Good luck!
  • marybsalmon
    marybsalmon Posts: 46 Member
    I have been trying to watch my carbs and calories to. A friend of mine told me to get online and read about the Atkins diet, as it cuts down carbs.

    I asked my doctor about Atkins and she said the South Beach diet was better for you because it allowed for fruit (adding important vitamins & nutrients)...which is healthier for you than just meat and veggies.

    I just try to limit my bread and potatoes and that helps keep the carbs down to a manageable amount.
  • tanyaelise
    tanyaelise Posts: 28
    Mission Tortillas have a low carb version. I use them for.....ahhh here it goes, my mouth is watering.....Home made quesadillas, tuna wraps, ham and cheese with lettuce and horseradish, pizza crusts (very thin), hamburgers, hot dogs, etc...they have 7 carbs per wrap. Give them a try.
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