Smoking abstinence

robs_ready
robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
edited March 2016 in Motivation and Support
I've quit smoking for short periods in my life but never managed to quit and remain that way.

I'd like to know if anyone has quit, and what frame of mind they managed to maintain, I know it's incredibly bad for me.

Any advise would be appreciated

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  • RosemaryBronte
    RosemaryBronte Posts: 103 Member
    Have you read Change Anything by Kerry Patterson?
  • kuranda10
    kuranda10 Posts: 593 Member
    edited March 2016
    My husband and I quit together using Champix. It's been 4.5 years. and I still think about having a cigarette almost everyday.
    The first three weeks were ... not pleasant in our household.
    The frame of mind I use to maintain is knowing that if I start again, I will have to listen to my husband go on about how he was more sucessful than I was. THAT isn't going to happen.

    However, if I'm ever diagnosed with an incurable disease, I will start again and if he ever leaves me, I am following him out the door so I can buy a pack.
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    kuranda10 wrote: »
    My husband and I quit together using Champix. It's been 4.5 years. and I still think about having a cigarette almost everyday.
    The first three weeks were ... not pleasant in our household.
    The frame of mind I use to maintain is knowing that if I start again, I will have to listen to my husband go on about how he was more sucessful than I was. THAT isn't going to happen.

    However, if I'm ever diagnosed with an incurable disease, I will start again and if he ever leaves me, I am following him out the door so I can buy a pack.

    So the feeling of wanting to smoke never goes away? That worries me...

    Unfortunately I can't take champix due to my interest history with mental health
  • kuranda10
    kuranda10 Posts: 593 Member
    The Champix really did work though. They say the hardest points are three days, three weeks, three months and three years. Physically I didn't want to smoke, after the Champix it's all mental.
    Down here they have you do a course of Champix for three months. My husband stopped at about 2.5 months, and I know I have a bit of a drug resistance so I stayed on it for 4 months to get me over the three month hurdle.
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    Have you read Change Anything by Kerry Patterson?
    Have you read Change Anything by Kerry Patterson?

    I haven't but I'll google it thanks
  • kuranda10
    kuranda10 Posts: 593 Member
    robs_ready wrote: »
    kuranda10 wrote: »
    My husband and I quit together using Champix. It's been 4.5 years. and I still think about having a cigarette almost everyday.
    The first three weeks were ... not pleasant in our household.
    The frame of mind I use to maintain is knowing that if I start again, I will have to listen to my husband go on about how he was more sucessful than I was. THAT isn't going to happen.

    However, if I'm ever diagnosed with an incurable disease, I will start again and if he ever leaves me, I am following him out the door so I can buy a pack.

    So the feeling of wanting to smoke never goes away? That worries me...

    Unfortunately I can't take champix due to my interest history with mental health

    I view it like being an alcholic. You're never really "over it" you just don't do it. If an alcholic takes a drink they may start drinking again. For me, I know if I have one cigarette I will go from one to one pack in about a day.

    The doctors in the states wouldn't give me the champix because I lived alone, so I do understand the mental health risks.
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    kuranda10 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    kuranda10 wrote: »
    My husband and I quit together using Champix. It's been 4.5 years. and I still think about having a cigarette almost everyday.
    The first three weeks were ... not pleasant in our household.
    The frame of mind I use to maintain is knowing that if I start again, I will have to listen to my husband go on about how he was more sucessful than I was. THAT isn't going to happen.

    However, if I'm ever diagnosed with an incurable disease, I will start again and if he ever leaves me, I am following him out the door so I can buy a pack.

    So the feeling of wanting to smoke never goes away? That worries me...

    Unfortunately I can't take champix due to my interest history with mental health

    I view it like being an alcholic. You're never really "over it" you just don't do it. If an alcholic takes a drink they may start drinking again. For me, I know if I have one cigarette I will go from one to one pack in about a day.

    The doctors in the states wouldn't give me the champix because I lived alone, so I do understand the mental health risks.

    That's like my relationship with drugs, I understand that mentality.

    Champix was originally going to be an antidepressant but was black boxed due to its increased risk of suicide tendencies, Roberto is gonna have to go out at it alone
  • Mycophilia
    Mycophilia Posts: 1,225 Member
    I came across this helpful site and literally quit cold turkey the same day. That was almost 1.5 years ago. Honestly if you can get through the first couple of weeks, the worst is done. I haven't had any cravings in months.
  • CollieFit
    CollieFit Posts: 1,683 Member
    This post is not meant to be a scaremongering tactic, but I recently buried my parents. Both died from smoking related disease. Both suffered greatly before they died. My mother died of COPD and after a year and a half on oxygen, having stents fitted in her lungs and being pumped with steroids, she effectively slowly suffocated as her bronchials died. My father got first oesophageal cancer and then another primary small cell lung carcinoma. He was stage 4 at diagnosis and there was nothing anyone could do. Chemo was palliative, not curative, just to buy him time. The oesophageal tumour was inoperable so he had to have a wire mesh tube inserted into his oesophagus to stop the tumour from crushing his windpipe. He was no longer able to eat normally and ended up with a Peg-feed (a tube in the stomach through which you put liquid food via a drip). At the end he weighed 55kg at 6 feet tall. I was there until the end for both of them and watched them take their last breaths. Neither of their deaths could be described as peaceful, despite palliative care nurses doing their very best with morphine and CPAP. They took their last breaths about 20 years before their actual life expectancy. Mum was barely 66, dad didn't see 68.

    Now, you're only 26, so you think 66 is old and a million miles away from now. My mum always thought if she ever had any problems she would give up then. She was devastated when she was told she was stage 4 COPD and there was no cure, just "management" of her remaining lung function which would also dwindle. My dad was also relatively healthy until he suddenly developed a massive and inoperable aggressive tumour.

    I wish I could share my memories with you and show you what I saw. Please try anything that's available. There are so many things you can try now, e-cigarettes, nicotine patches etc. You're so young you can turn this around now and walk away with perfect health. In 20 years this may not be the case. All I can say is, don't make your kids watch what I had to witness. xxx

    I wish you all the staying power in the world.
  • kuranda10
    kuranda10 Posts: 593 Member
    Our motivation to quit had nothing to do with health.
    The price of cigarettes went up to $25 a pack? and I think they are close to $30/35 now and they are talking about making them in the $40 range.

    Can you try to motivate yourself with money? Give each cigarette a dollar value and for everyone you don't smoke, put that money in a jar. Or put marbles in a jar and every marble = $1 or something and then cash it out when it's full?
  • kuranda10
    kuranda10 Posts: 593 Member
    Have you tried Zyban? They say it's a fancy name for Wellbutrin but it did work for me the first time I quit.
  • TammyLML
    TammyLML Posts: 429 Member
    I could go on and on with this topic, but will try not to babble too much... :wink:

    I think I smoked longer than you've been alive. Started at 11, and by the time I quit was smoking two packs a day. I quit a dozen times - with the patch and cold turkey, but never longer than 2 years, and then something would upset me and I would say I didn't care, and smoke again.

    Then in 2011 I got pneumonia. Again. Wound up in hospital not able to breathe, and finally the doctor said something that at last sunk in: "You have a simple choice - quit, or die."

    It isn't like I didn't know smoking was unhealthy, that it might kill me. But I guess when you're laying there literally gasping for air, to hear that put so plainly was quite a wake-up call. I quit. It wasn't easy, of course. (I couldn't take the medication either.) But I think when you have the mindset that those cigarettes are NOT your friends, they are out to kill you, it really does make a difference! I found an incredible support group at quitnet.com (unfortunately this website isn't nearly as good as it once was, but there is still help to be had there.)

    The good news is that the cravings DO go away - at least they do when you're not romanticizing smoking, and looking at it as it really is. In fact, the smell of smoke makes me completely ill now. When I walk past people in shops I can smell a smoker from yards and yards away. (Unfortunately, lol!) I have to hold my breath when I walk past people who are smoking.

    Rob I looked at your profile and you have done an AMAZING thing with your weight loss and commitment to fitness! You took up the challenge to get fit and that shows you have a strength and determination in you that few people have. Apply that to quitting smoking and I KNOW you will succeed! (I'm doing the reverse: five and a half years smoke-free have taught me that I too am strong and capable of applying that success to getting fit and staying that way!)

    I wish you well - feel free to pm me or add as friends, and remember you CAN do this. You will be brilliant! :heart:

  • FleaBailey
    FleaBailey Posts: 18 Member
    Hi Rob! I quite on January 1, 2014 and I now consider myself a former smoker. I had smoked at least 2 packs a day for 35 years. I quit because I was hospitalized with a partially collapsed lung and a diagnosis of Stage 3 COPD. I was in the hospital 10 days, and by the time I was released I had pretty much gone through the physical withdrawal (with nicotine patches) and just had to deal with the psychological cravings. I got myself an e-cigarette and when I wanted to smoke (almost always after dinner and coffee) I promised myself that if I still wanted to smoke in 30 minutes I could use the e-cigarette. I never had to do so.

    I took the money I saved on cigarettes and about 3 weeks after I got home (after I was released by the physical therapist) I hired a personal trainer and joined MFP. So far I've lost 120 pounds. I found an old pack of cigarettes in a desk drawer today and had no problem tossing it in the trash.

    Why was I suddenly able to stop? I don't know, but coming home from the hospital at age 58 with an oxygen tank was INCREDIBLY depressing and I just didn't want to be that person anymore.

    I don't know what will be the key to your success in stopping, but I believe you will find it. But don't think you will always crave them--I don't anymore.

    Good luck.

    P.S. I am no longer Stage 3 COPD. In fact, my pulmonologist has taken me off ANY medication/inhalers since my last breathing test was 100% normal. He doesn't know if I was misdiagnosed, or if the weight loss and exercise and stopping smoking has strengthened me so that I have COPD that can be controlled with exercise. Frankly, I don't care--I'm just thrilled to have a second chance.
  • TammyLML
    TammyLML Posts: 429 Member
    @FleaBailey - your story is incredibly moving! Congrats on your quit and that fantastic weight loss! :heart:
  • Shells918
    Shells918 Posts: 1,070 Member
    I quit September 8,2010. Cold Turkey. I'd paid $10 for a pack the day before but I was just done. I had to quit for my tummy tuck anyway, so the timing was perfect, and I didn't gain weight, and once I had the surgery I didn't miss it at all. At over 5 years in I can say I HATE the smell of others smoking and in even the most stressful times, including a divorce, moving, dad having cancer...I have not even considered smoking. The first 3 days are the worst but if you can get through that you'll be fine. Your body will thank you.
  • Wiz_Joe
    Wiz_Joe Posts: 476 Member
    It's an absolute lovely feeling staying smoke free, until it gets to you when you have a stimulus for craving a smoke and go beyond the abstainance to respond by lighting one. That's when it all goes back to the loop of having to quit and actual quitting. @CollieFit Thank you for sharing the story, it means much.
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    Really appreciate all the responses guys, all have been incredible helpful.

    It's 9:30am here in the UK, I've managed to go 12 hours now without lighting up, it makes perfect sense to continue this trend as the nicotine is technically already out of my system.

    At the end of the day cravings won't kill me, so I guess I just carry on not doing it?

    I'm going to go to the gym now and sweat it out.
  • BewitchedBelinda99
    BewitchedBelinda99 Posts: 253 Member
    I gave up with lozenges and i dont have the urge to smoke anymore. Been over 3 years now. Trying to lose the weight i put on still though. Good luck robs_ready!
  • KitchyWitchy
    KitchyWitchy Posts: 57 Member
    I quit 10 years ago after smoking many years. Here is the one tip I used that worked the best. Realizing that quitting smoking might not be easy but it is WAY easier than going to chemo, getting radiation, fighting cancer, surgery etc. I just imagined how hard I would fight for my life if I were diagnosed with cancer or heart disease. I used that strength to avoid smoking.
    Withdrawal symptoms are a million times easier than dying of cancer and the cravings do go away. Even now occasionally I think of smoking but it literally lasts 15 seconds.
    Good luck!
  • Wiz_Joe
    Wiz_Joe Posts: 476 Member
    Goodluck @robs_ready.. All these posts are helpful, good read indeed.
  • TammyLML
    TammyLML Posts: 429 Member
    robs_ready wrote: »
    Really appreciate all the responses guys, all have been incredible helpful.

    It's 9:30am here in the UK, I've managed to go 12 hours now without lighting up, it makes perfect sense to continue this trend as the nicotine is technically already out of my system.

    At the end of the day cravings won't kill me, so I guess I just carry on not doing it?

    I'm going to go to the gym now and sweat it out.

    Bravo, Rob! You got this! :smiley:
  • punkrockgoth
    punkrockgoth Posts: 534 Member
    I read Allen Carr's Easy Way To Quit Smoking. The premise of the book is that you don't need smoking. It really helped to frame smoking differently in my mind. Before that, I had quit and restarted smoking many times in my life, the longest period being a year. Now it's been 2 1/2 years.

    The first few days sucked balls, not gonna lie. But it did get easier. I found though to get through days 1-3 the use of anti anxiety and sleeping medication made a huge difference.

    Every now and then I get a craving, but it goes away quickly. I am so happy to no longer be a smoker.

    You can do this!
  • Panda_brat
    Panda_brat Posts: 291 Member
    edited March 2016
    I quite using Wellbutrin, plus patches, plus gum. Speak to your doctor, you could get nicotine replacement therapy at prescription price. Quieting smoking is similar to loosing weight. You have to remember what your motivation is, so you stay motivates, plus a good support system helps. Their is a web site i love for support, https://quitnet.meyouhealth.com/#/pledges/new. I have been off the tobacco for 2 years next month. If any one needs support staying tobacco free, feel free to add me as a friend. And yes I have bad days whee i have to stop myself from going out and buying more cancer sticks.
  • sourcandies
    sourcandies Posts: 42 Member
    I quit almost 2 years ago (smoked for 6 years) and I think it's different for everyone. The smell of cigarette smoke makes me physically sick, so it's easy to stay away from, while my boyfriend found it very difficult to quit, he vapes now to help.