Long distance running: advice on shoes please

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jdt242
jdt242 Posts: 106 Member
Dear Runners,

I have a half marathon coming up (5 weeks away) and my current trainers are dead....so I need to get a new pair and quickly.

I want to ask more seasoned runners how important is it to have your gait tested etc. when choosing a pair of running shoes?

I could find a decent brand of shoe for around £50, but if I go to a specialist running store, it's going to cost me twice that. Is it worth it? I don't really have the money.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated, thank you.
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  • CollieFit
    CollieFit Posts: 1,683 Member
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    I think gait analysis is hugely important. There are vast structural differences between neutral shoes, stability & motion control and if you happen to buy a shoe that does the exact opposite to what your feet need then it won't take long before you'll have problems. It depends entirely on your feet and gait / running style. Some people end up having a huge choice and some not so much. I have always valued the expertise of a specialist running shop and it's something that ought to be rewarded, because if no one uses those shops anymore they will close, the expertise will be lost in local areas and all we will have is big online stores with no face to face advice. Whatever you do, don't go in, have free gait analysis and then buy online because that's just mean.
  • CollieFit
    CollieFit Posts: 1,683 Member
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    You could always ask for a shoe from the previous season. Let's say a new pair of Kayanos may be £120 but last season's drop to about £60 once the new season's are out.
  • jdt242
    jdt242 Posts: 106 Member
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    There is a thing such as free gait analysis? Not where I live....£15 to get it done or free if you buy the shoes from the running store....and besides - I'm not that mean.

    I didn't want to scrimp on this pair but my current shoes are totally broken and I am so tight on cash I was hoping I could buy a cheaper pair, but you're right - it will cost me in the long run I suppose.
  • CollieFit
    CollieFit Posts: 1,683 Member
    edited March 2016
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    I see you must be new to running. When I started running, shops were still able to offer free gait analysis because people then bought the shoes in store. I realise that small local shops were forced to charge for this service now when no purchase is made. It's simply because too many people took advantage of the service and then bought online. It's a shame, because it spoils things for everybody. They are businesses after all not charities.

    What you "get away with" depends entirely on your feet, which obviously here no one could possibly advise you on. I know some runners who just have super efficient biomechanics, really efficient gait, and basically they can run in anything. Me.... oh no! Not as a flat footed overpronator with hypermobile ankles. LOL

    The thing is, once you know what you need you can always buy online next time.
  • ROBOTFOOD
    ROBOTFOOD Posts: 5,527 Member
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    I would do it. And definitely try to snag a pair of previous season shoes on sale. No reason to drop $150 on 2016 shoes that have little change from 2015 models. Just picked up a $70 pair of 2014 Books Ghosts 7s yesterday.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
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    jdt242 wrote: »
    Dear Runners,

    I have a half marathon coming up (5 weeks away) and my current trainers are dead....so I need to get a new pair and quickly.

    I want to ask more seasoned runners how important is it to have your gait tested etc. when choosing a pair of running shoes?

    I could find a decent brand of shoe for around £50, but if I go to a specialist running store, it's going to cost me twice that. Is it worth it? I don't really have the money.

    Any helpful advice would be appreciated, thank you.

    Any reason you can't get the same pair that you had previously on sale either online or in store? I would be wary of changing running shoes at this point given you are fairly close to your HM.

    I presume you are in the UK but if you have a Decathlon store near to you then will do a free gait analysis and have a number of shoes which fall within your price range.

    As for gait analysis I don't think it is any where near as important as thinking about how you can improve your running form but will be useful if a person does have legitimate bio-mechanical issues.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
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    i would go to the store and pay for the analysis, though it's always been free for me.
    either buy the shoes there or pay the pounds and buy online

    or buy the same shoes that you already wear

    me, I feel like i should get analyzed once a year. because i'm sure my gait will change as well
  • Becca_250
    Becca_250 Posts: 188 Member
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    I would echo what everyone else says, well worth it. The other thing is once you know what type or brand of shoes suit you, you could then switch to a cheaper source for your next pair. I bought my first pair from the shop that fit me but then bought the next pair on their website for a cheaper price.
  • ilex70
    ilex70 Posts: 727 Member
    edited March 2016
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    This might help you figure it out some as far as gait.

    runnersworld.com/running-shoes/pronation-explained

    Anywhere around where you can run on sand/soft soil and then check out your footprints?

    ETA: You could also set up your phone to video you from behind on a treadmill.
  • eldamiano
    eldamiano Posts: 2,667 Member
    edited March 2016
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    This is like asking which haircut you should get. It is about what suits your foot shape and running action. Just dont get conned into getting the 'top of the range' models. They are scientifically proven to have little/zero effect.

    Best to ask in a proper shop....
  • ashleyrichey616
    ashleyrichey616 Posts: 15 Member
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    Agreed 100% on this one! And even if you do get the same model, you want to do it sooner rather than later, because even though they're the 'same' shoe, you need time to break them in. Don't do ANYTHING new right before/at the time of a race.
    msf74 wrote: »
    jdt242 wrote: »

    Any reason you can't get the same pair that you had previously on sale either online or in store? I would be wary of changing running shoes at this point given you are fairly close to your HM.

    I presume you are in the UK but if you have a Decathlon store near to you then will do a free gait analysis and have a number of shoes which fall within your price range.

    As for gait analysis I don't think it is any where near as important as thinking about how you can improve your running form but will be useful if a person does have legitimate bio-mechanical issues.

  • yesimpson
    yesimpson Posts: 1,372 Member
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    I stick with what I know, particularly close to races, and make sure you break the new pair in a bit before the half.

    I've been wearing a certain type of Asics for over 4 years, on about my fifth pair. Spent about £60-80 per pair. Nice chunky soles and I feel like they support my weak ankles. If you haven't been experiencing any issues with your feet or legs you may not want to change anything.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    edited March 2016
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    I think they are great for new runners, but once you know what you need from a shoe, it's not a big deal to skip the analysis, assuming nothing significant has changed with your gait, weight, mileage, etc.

    I will say that I'm part of the apparent minority who thinks gait analysis, for many people, are way over hyped. Go to a store that has all their shoes on the floor (not where you have to ask the salesperson to go in the back and get your size). Try on as many shoes as you can and walk around the store a couple of times to get a feel for the shoe. You can usually tell if it's the wrong shoe or not. And frankly, you won't know if it's the right shoe until your several miles into your run, so any test run you do at a store won't ensure anything.

    Unless the gain analysis allows you to exchange the shoes once worn if they don't feel/fit properly, I think they are overrated.

    Now, obviously my opinion changes if you've never run before, have something odd or specific about your gait/foot, or something along those lines. But if you're reasonably athletic, in reasonable shape, have spent reasonable time in athletic shoes, you can probably feel your way into a good shoe.
  • rea1980
    rea1980 Posts: 93 Member
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    I would definitely go to your local store and have them do an analysis. I order some of my running shoes online and other times I go have an analysis done to make sure things haven't changed. If you are five weeks out from your half, don't be afraid to try a new shoe. If you are following a training program for your half you will probably get another 100 miles(160 KM) in still before the race. That is plenty of time to try some new shoes out and get used to them. It is also beneficial to have multiple pairs of shoes and rotate them. I have a couple of go to shoes that I prefer to run in but other times I might switch to a softer pair or ones with more ground contact feel. Using different pairs with different stack heights and offsets will work your legs a little differently.
  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,671 Member
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    msf74 wrote: »
    jdt242 wrote: »
    Dear Runners,

    I have a half marathon coming up (5 weeks away) and my current trainers are dead....so I need to get a new pair and quickly.

    I want to ask more seasoned runners how important is it to have your gait tested etc. when choosing a pair of running shoes?

    I could find a decent brand of shoe for around £50, but if I go to a specialist running store, it's going to cost me twice that. Is it worth it? I don't really have the money.

    Any helpful advice would be appreciated, thank you.

    Any reason you can't get the same pair that you had previously on sale either online or in store? I would be wary of changing running shoes at this point given you are fairly close to your HM.

    I presume you are in the UK but if you have a Decathlon store near to you then will do a free gait analysis and have a number of shoes which fall within your price range.

    As for gait analysis I don't think it is any where near as important as thinking about how you can improve your running form but will be useful if a person does have legitimate bio-mechanical issues.

    +1 on the bolded. Why not just buy the same pair if they're working for you? I'd be wary to mess around with your shoes at this point.
  • zdyb23456
    zdyb23456 Posts: 1,706 Member
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    I just went to the running store and had them help me pick out a new running shoe. I thought I needed stability, but when he watched me "run" (not really as it was just across the sales floor and back) he told me I'd be better suited with a neutral shoe. I'd been running in stability shoes the last 2 years!

    He had me try on about 6 pairs and I picked the one that felt most comfortable, although honestly they all felt great. When I got home I checked the price on amazon and it was the same price.

    I'm not certain I like the shoe now that I've run in them for a week. So really, the few minutes spent wearing them in the store isn't really a strong indicator that you'll like them when you actually spend time running in them. I'm going to continue running in them and try out another brand/model the next time I need shoes.

    So I agree with the above poster that said to stick with the current model you are in - esp. since you've run in them before and your race is getting close.

  • rea1980
    rea1980 Posts: 93 Member
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    zdyb23456 wrote: »
    I just went to the running store and had them help me pick out a new running shoe. I thought I needed stability, but when he watched me "run" (not really as it was just across the sales floor and back) he told me I'd be better suited with a neutral shoe. I'd been running in stability shoes the last 2 years!

    He had me try on about 6 pairs and I picked the one that felt most comfortable, although honestly they all felt great. When I got home I checked the price on amazon and it was the same price.

    I'm not certain I like the shoe now that I've run in them for a week. So really, the few minutes spent wearing them in the store isn't really a strong indicator that you'll like them when you actually spend time running in them. I'm going to continue running in them and try out another brand/model the next time I need shoes.

    So I agree with the above poster that said to stick with the current model you are in - esp. since you've run in them before and your race is getting close.

    Almost all running stores will let you return your shoes even after running in them outside for 30 days. It is one of the benefits of buying at a store front. The shoe manufactures replace the worn shoes for them, so they do not take a loss. If you don't like them after a week take them back and see what the stores policies are.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    edited March 2016
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    jdt242 wrote: »
    I want to ask more seasoned runners how important is it to have your gait tested etc. when choosing a pair of running shoes?

    Personally I see gait analysis as useful if you're having trouble, but otherwise I'm not religious about it.

    As long as you understand your own form you should be able to make an informed choice, that said I sometimes see lower cost shoes as a bit of a false economy as you frequently don't get the mile life out of them.

    fwiw I always jsut buy mine online, I know what my style is like and select accordingly.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
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    Running stores always put me in shoes that are too tight. There are plenty of runners who just go with what they like. Just buy the same brand and model you have. Makes it easier. It also doesn't hurt to make sure you have a couple of pair on hand so you're not wearing new shoes for every training run.