Dr. is not helpful, what to do next?

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  • janjunie
    janjunie Posts: 1,200 Member
    cmbx2mom wrote: »
    I'm thinking of looking into supplements....

    @cmbx2mom So instead of weighing your food, you'd rather pay for a supplement that does nothing but empty your wallet (because they are all woo anyways), just so you can continue to say you tried everything. I really feel like losing weight is not something you are ready to do for whatever reason.
  • starwhisperer6
    starwhisperer6 Posts: 402 Member
    10 years ago if I wanted to lose weight I just thought about it really hard and skipped bread for a few days. now if I am not monitoring what I eat with some consistency the scale will start to creep up. I think it is because I am busier now, not paying attention to how many little bites I take off my kids plates, or while I cook, add on the bonus of a slightly lower TDEE every decade and you have the perfect storm. What use to work doesn't always continue to work.
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
    cmbx2mom wrote: »
    Ugh, so I wasn't sure I should post this question because as expected I got the usual answers. I went 10 years being able to control/lose weight by calorie counting and weighing as I am doing now. I am not eating 2100 calories and have 1600 in my diary. Yes I use teaspoons not weigh my pb. Yes I log 1 banana vs. grams of banana. That is not 500 calories difference and as u see I said I try to go under 1600 calories to account for slight differences.
    I like Shakeology, it mixes better than protein powders and it's faster to dump 1 scoop vs adding in 10 different ingredients.
    And I have been doing lots of reading about how calories in vs out is NOT an accurate way to lose weight. As far as trying methods, I try for a couple months because regular tracking does NOT work for my body anymore.
    Unless u have something new to say (no more of the you r not weighing enough) please disregard this post. It is SO frustrating when people just assume u are eating a lot more than u say. Yes I take a handful of chips....after years of tracking I know that my handful is about 0.5 servings. I also know that the bread I buy says x # of servings per bag and I know how to do math.

    Calories in - calories out is not "accurate", it's the process by which weight loss or gain works. I think you mean calorie tracking here? Calorie tracking is accurate enough for the purpose of weight management, and it works if you do it properly, by weighing everything, but guessing will indeed make it less accurate and less efficient. It's the inaccuracy, and not your body, nor the concept of tracking, that is the problem.

    You don't have to be 500 calories off to not lose weight; half of that is the deficit you should have had and don't have because you don't weigh everything.

    Portion distortion is real and guesstimation based on memory is not going to be accurate.

    I don't understand "servings", I'll let you Americans etc deal with that :#
  • wonko221
    wonko221 Posts: 292 Member
    edited April 2016
    cmbx2mom wrote: »
    And I have been doing lots of reading about how calories in vs out is NOT an accurate way to lose weight.
    This reading... i bet the reports are backed by people who are trying to sell some of these other remedies that are failing you....

    Calories in vs. calories out is a sound scientific principle. You get that, right?

    It's basic physics:
    • Your body requires energy for basic functions plus daily activities (TDEE);
    • "calories" is simply a measurement of energy;
    • if you intake extra energy (over TDEE), it is stored as fat; and
    • if you don't intake enough energy (under TDEE), the fat stores are burned.

    The method applying the principle might not be accurate if you are not accurate about your TDEE (the number of calories you require daily to maintain) or if you are not accurate about how many calories you take in (such as making estimates/SWAGs). But the accuracy issue here is in the person, not the method.

    Additionally, people get confused by focusing purely on weight, when what we are really interested in, generally, is losing body fat. Body weight can fluctuate a bit based on water retention; some people become discouraged when they see unexpected numbers on the scale and misunderstand the significance.
  • Seffell
    Seffell Posts: 2,244 Member
    So you insist you're not eating too much. Ok, let's say you are correct. Then there must be some other reason for you not to lose weight. You say you're eating at deficit so this means that you say that your body burns more than you consume. But your weight is not changing. Therefore your body does not take the energy it needs after it has burned your food from your fat supplies but from somewhere else.

    Are you sure you're not plugging yourself secretly to the electric grid at night?

  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member
    rml_16 wrote: »
    cmbx2mom wrote: »
    I've been trying to lose weight for a while now but have been stuck around my current weight (177lb +/- 5lbs) for well over a year. I have tried just about everything to lose weight but nothing is working (paleo..I find unsustainable, 21day fix, IF, calorie counting etc). I tried to talkto my Dr. about this but she is young and inexperienced and told me to "eat more vegetables". I am 41 years old, exercise 3-5 times a week. I do a variety of workouts including weight lifting, interals, plyo, boot-camp etc). Last year I tried 1750 calories for a few months with no results. I am now down to 1600 calories a day. I try to limit processed foods and have been working on upping protein to at least100g a day. Yes, I weigh/measure my food. Typically I try to be a little under 1600 calories just in case my calculations are wrong. I have a feeling something in my body is not right (hormones???) but my Dr. is not interested in discussing it. I've thought about ordering an online blood test to check on things. Also just FYI about 1.5 years ago I was doing crossfit and upped my calories (1900 rest days, 2200 workout days) and gained almost 15 pounds in 2 months so I know it is not an "eat more" situation.
    Any ideas?
    I'm thinking of looking into supplements and trying to figure out who to talk to about this...a different primary Dr, a dietician???
    Typical day for me:
    Breakfast: SHakeology with natural PB, honey and green superfood powder, almond milk
    Snack: 1 banana
    Lunch: usually batch made food on Sundays, but sometimes turkey sandwich on marathon bread. And a salad with EVOO and vinegar
    Snack: Apple, maybe 1 piece of dark chocolate, sometimes a protein bar
    Dinner: some meat, some carb- usually rice or potato and some vegetable
    Sometimes I may grab a handful of cashews before dinner is ready.
    Occassionally I may grab a handful of potato chips/ cheese-its or whatever I have for my kids on hand. Yes I know this is processed crap and I am not weighing it, but I am human. ANd no it is NOT 3-4 servings of it.
    ALso more just FYI, I haven't had weight problems my whole life. I gained some weight after kids were born but was able to maintain healthy weight with calorie counting and exercise, it's really only been the past few years I've been noticing it is harder to lose weight.
    I've been reading a lot on weight loss resistance.
    I try to get about 8 hrs sleep, but sometimes it's closer to 7.
    Stress...well I work FT, have 2 kids and have a hectic schedule so it is what it is..
    Oh, and I did lose a couple pounds a while back when I got sick and only ate about 1000 calories a day. But went right back on when I was eating normal again.

    You need bloodwork. A thyroid panel, specifically, especially given your age.

    Yes. Definitely have your vitamin D checked too.

    While I think that the general sentiments of "track better" and "eat less" are on target...it wouldn't be a bad idea to see an endocrinologist for a consultation too. Generalists frequently do a horrible job with endocrine issues, even very simple ones like hypothyroidism.

    Also, stop making excuses! If you do have any metabolic issues, the things above are exactly what you SHOULD not be eating/doing. If you want to narrow this down, you need to track EVERYTHING.
  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member
    OP, how tall are you?

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