Gain weight from exercise?

a0akley
a0akley Posts: 36 Member
edited December 1 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi all,
I am new to posting though not new to MFP. Over the past year due to many factors I have gained about 15 lbs. I am only 5'3" so that makes me own a closet full of clothes I can't wear, and I am about one pound below the "overweight" line on BMI charts. I really want to be back in the 120's, my comfort zone.
I got a fitbit for christmas and have been tracking activity and exercising literally EVERY day. Aerobics, turbo fire, walk/jog, Firm videos.... and the scale creeps up and up and up. I am up 9 since I got the damn thing. I eat within my calories 5 days per week and on weekends I have a few drinks I dont count and I eat one or two cheat meals. I feel like I should still be at a deficit but am only gaining. I have tried low carb, low fat/high carb too. I dont use my exercise calories (or more than just a few, like 50-100). What gives? I feel like I was doing better when not exercising but that's so unhealthy for so many other reasons.
any ideas?

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  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    Start counting your weekends. They're likely killing your deficit.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    I can't see your diary, but it's totally possible that drinks on the weekend and 1-2 cheat meals can take you out of a deficit. Are you tracking the meals? "Feeling" like you are in a deficit and being in a deficit are two very different things and if you aren't tracking everything you consume, you may want to start and get a better understand of where you are at.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    Between eating/drinking more on weekends and lowered non-exercise activity due to being tired from a lot of exercising (this is a guess), your deficit is non-existent.

    When you are not very overweight, you can't just "feel" like your calories are on point. You have to actually know whether they are or not and, for many people, that means tracking every day. The most common cause of weight loss stalls/gains is inaccurate tracking, whether it's due to not weighing/measuring foods/beverages, skipping logging days here and there, or something else. There's not really a way around that.
  • no_day_but_2day
    no_day_but_2day Posts: 222 Member
    I agree with everyone above. Those cheat meals and drinks will add up super quick. Also, get a food scale and make sure you weigh all your solid foods. I'm not saying you have to do it forever, but that has made a HUGE difference in my food diary. For example a 1/2 cup of oatmeal can be more than the serving size because if the oats are grounded down, you get more than the grams given on the box for the serving size. Another example is peanut butter. Those two whopping tablespoons you give yourself could put you at an addition 150 calories than you suspected. Depending on how big your deficit is now, you could in-fact be thrown out of the deficit completely. If you add that on top of overestimating the exercise calories burned and then eating back all of those every day you exercise, your weight will go nowhere. These are just suggestions for the possible weight gain and I'm not saying you are necessarily doing this. BUT, since you made the step to get the fitbit, now make the step and get the food scale. They're like 15$ for a cheap one.
  • a0akley
    a0akley Posts: 36 Member
    thanks everyone for the support. I do own a food scale. I use it mostly for meat portions and I measure with measuring cups/spoons everything else. I get what you are saying about the weekends. I guess I just feel like mentally it's good to take a break from counting everything, as I tend towards being overly obsessive if I let myself. Has anyone had any success with just one cheat night, like say friday night dinner and a few drinks ( i drink vodka with diet mixer) .
    Any thoughts on water retention from exercise and not giving recovery days hindering success? I think I will try to track all weekend, even my drinks and see what happens. On the week days if I have a drink I keep it within my calorie deficit. I eat about 1100-1200 cal of food and (100-200 in alcohol one or two days per week.) Maybe I should just ditch the booze all together?
  • dgobbett
    dgobbett Posts: 53 Member
    edited April 2016
    a0akley wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I am new to posting though not new to MFP. Over the past year due to many factors I have gained about 15 lbs. I am only 5'3" so that makes me own a closet full of clothes I can't wear, and I am about one pound below the "overweight" line on BMI charts. I really want to be back in the 120's, my comfort zone.
    I got a fitbit for christmas and have been tracking activity and exercising literally EVERY day. Aerobics, turbo fire, walk/jog, Firm videos.... and the scale creeps up and up and up. I am up 9 since I got the damn thing. I eat within my calories 5 days per week and on weekends I have a few drinks I dont count and I eat one or two cheat meals. I feel like I should still be at a deficit but am only gaining. I have tried low carb, low fat/high carb too. I dont use my exercise calories (or more than just a few, like 50-100). What gives? I feel like I was doing better when not exercising but that's so unhealthy for so many other reasons.
    any ideas?

    1) Start tracking your cheats to give yourself an idea of how much you are cheating - that could be one possible culprit

    2) Muscle gains - if you are exercising daily you could be toning up putting on muscle mass. Don't let the scale define success use measurements. You could weigh more and still be leaner and look better.

    3) Water retention - Excess sodium and exercise contribute to water retention. Your body needs water to repair muscle damage caused by exercise. Also could be the case if your moving into "the time of the month".

    4) Body Shock - This can be caused by lack of sleep, stress, or alterations with your diet. Low carb, high fat, etc. I've tried this and what worked for me the best was balanced macros.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    a0akley wrote: »
    thanks everyone for the support. I do own a food scale. I use it mostly for meat portions and I measure with measuring cups/spoons everything else. I get what you are saying about the weekends. I guess I just feel like mentally it's good to take a break from counting everything, as I tend towards being overly obsessive if I let myself. Has anyone had any success with just one cheat night, like say friday night dinner and a few drinks ( i drink vodka with diet mixer) .
    Any thoughts on water retention from exercise and not giving recovery days hindering success? I think I will try to track all weekend, even my drinks and see what happens. On the week days if I have a drink I keep it within my calorie deficit. I eat about 1100-1200 cal of food and (100-200 in alcohol one or two days per week.) Maybe I should just ditch the booze all together?

    Only you can know if mentally weighing all your solid food is going to be bad for you (psychologically). What I can speak to is that I find it virtually impossible to truly understand what I'm consuming without weighing it. I find that my foods can vary quite widely from what I would expect them to be (if I was judging based on measuring cups).

    Some people find a lot of success with one cheat meal per week, but it's only going to work if you manage to stay within a deficit for the week. When I was losing weight, I preferred to stay on plan each day and, if I had a special event, would "bank" some calories during the week for it. I managed to drink almost every night when I was losing weight, although not as much as I always wanted. And I kept my lunches pretty austere. That was my choice -- I don't think someone has to quit drinking to lose weight, but it can certainly help if the Friday night dinner is more important.

    Water retention from exercise is real, but it will go away as your body gets used to more activity. That you keep gaining weight indicates that something else is going on here.
  • dgobbett
    dgobbett Posts: 53 Member
    a0akley wrote: »
    thanks everyone for the support. I do own a food scale. I use it mostly for meat portions and I measure with measuring cups/spoons everything else. I get what you are saying about the weekends. I guess I just feel like mentally it's good to take a break from counting everything, as I tend towards being overly obsessive if I let myself. Has anyone had any success with just one cheat night, like say friday night dinner and a few drinks ( i drink vodka with diet mixer) .
    Any thoughts on water retention from exercise and not giving recovery days hindering success? I think I will try to track all weekend, even my drinks and see what happens. On the week days if I have a drink I keep it within my calorie deficit. I eat about 1100-1200 cal of food and (100-200 in alcohol one or two days per week.) Maybe I should just ditch the booze all together?

    Cheat meals are better than nights or days. I do one per week and I have cut out all alcohol for the last 6 months. You can balance both drinks and food into cheats but consider the excess and cut back on the least important of the two.

    I noted above water retention is a factor that some do not consider. I found that getting on the scale daily always first thing in the morning and averaging over the week to come up with an idea of progress is very helpful. This keeps you informed as to how your body is holding onto water. I find that over a week I am up and down 3-5lbs a week because of water retention due to sodium and repair. It does come off.
  • laurelh8
    laurelh8 Posts: 38 Member
    edited April 2016
    Try tracking your cheat meals! I ate at Applebee's last night with my parents and had their American Standard Burger. The burger (not including the fries) had 1038 calories; I only had 1/2 of the burger but I would never have known if I didn't log it.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    If you've gained 9 pounds since Christmas, water retention isn't the problem. In general, water retention happens when you start exercising. You continue to burn fat if you are in a deficit though. So while your retained water may increase for a few weeks, at a certain point the fat loss becomes apparent on the scale. Then you see the scale go down as your fat stores are burned. You do not keep retaining more and more and more water.
  • no_day_but_2day
    no_day_but_2day Posts: 222 Member
    a0akley wrote: »
    thanks everyone for the support. I do own a food scale. I use it mostly for meat portions and I measure with measuring cups/spoons everything else. I get what you are saying about the weekends. I guess I just feel like mentally it's good to take a break from counting everything, as I tend towards being overly obsessive if I let myself. Has anyone had any success with just one cheat night, like say friday night dinner and a few drinks ( i drink vodka with diet mixer) .
    Any thoughts on water retention from exercise and not giving recovery days hindering success? I think I will try to track all weekend, even my drinks and see what happens. On the week days if I have a drink I keep it within my calorie deficit. I eat about 1100-1200 cal of food and (100-200 in alcohol one or two days per week.) Maybe I should just ditch the booze all together?

    I guess it depends on what you mean by a cheat meal. If you're talking a couple slices of pizza with a beer then by all means have that cheat meal but yes log it. If you're strict during the week, you may not be throwing yourself out of the deficit. If you're scarfing down a whole pizza with a side of tacos and french fries with those 3 whiskey and diets than that cheat meal is ruining your weekly progress. If you think of it as something you can't have ever again, that's usually when I overindulge in my cheat meals. If I think of it like I will have a couple slices tonight and stop because I am allowed to have another couple slices of that pizza next week, than that usually helps.
    As for water retention, I believe I retain water like crazy after a workout. I drink a 32oz of water with each workout so that could possible be why. I always feel fat and icky too after a workout and it's probably because of that reason. As for recovery days, I don't usually take them. If I'm weight training every day, then I weight train a different body part every day so technically my recovery day is happening for that body part I worked out the day before.
    As for drinking, I don't think you have to give it up. Just do it with moderation. I have slowed down on it mainly because I don't want to add it to my calories. I've already pre-logged my bloody mary for Saturday though so I know I have to plan my food around those calories. I don't consider it obsessive because I truly enjoy logging. :)
  • a0akley
    a0akley Posts: 36 Member
    edited April 2016
    so, not to totally throw this conversation a different direction, but some have commented on stress as a factor. I am VERY stressed. Full time working mom in a very high stress surgical office where I do phone triage for high risk complicated frustrated people all day! Is "Cortisol" weight gain real?! (And to clarify, I am NOT saying that I am also not eating/drinking too much on weekends because I'm sure I am.... because of the stress... !!! )
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    edited April 2016
    You are eating in surplus OP. Quit using measuring cups and weigh all foods.
  • RadarRicky
    RadarRicky Posts: 1 Member
    A suggestion around your cheat meals is to make them yourself. You have more control over the total calories that are going into your actual meals. For example, you can still have a burger, but you get to form the patty size and control the amount of cheese, bacon, mayo etc that goes on the burger itself. Restaurants are in it for wow factor, never really a consideration about calories in what they are preparing. Preparing your own meals, helps you control what is going into your body as well as letting you enjoy those foods that really satiate us, especially when trying to lose weight and having outside emotional stress factors. If you do choose to make some of your cheat meals, make more portions and freeze them to save time for later.

  • no_day_but_2day
    no_day_but_2day Posts: 222 Member
    RadarRicky wrote: »
    A suggestion around your cheat meals is to make them yourself. You have more control over the total calories that are going into your actual meals. For example, you can still have a burger, but you get to form the patty size and control the amount of cheese, bacon, mayo etc that goes on the burger itself. Restaurants are in it for wow factor, never really a consideration about calories in what they are preparing. Preparing your own meals, helps you control what is going into your body as well as letting you enjoy those foods that really satiate us, especially when trying to lose weight and having outside emotional stress factors. If you do choose to make some of your cheat meals, make more portions and freeze them to save time for later.

    ^^Very nice suggestion. I make my own low carb pizza for this reason. I don't make it often but when I get a pizza craving, I go for that one for sure. I know all the ingredients going into my meal and I certainly don't feel as guilty about eating it as I would having half a Dominoes pizza. It's more or less that I don't want all my hard work from the week to go to waste. Been there-done that and it was a total waste of time.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    a0akley wrote: »
    so, not to totally throw this conversation a different direction, but some have commented on stress as a factor. I am VERY stressed. Full time working mom in a very high stress surgical office where I do phone triage for high risk complicated frustrated people all day! Is "Cortisol" weight gain real?! (And to clarify, I am NOT saying that I am also not eating/drinking too much on weekends because I'm sure I am.... because of the stress... !!! )

    Focus on the obvious causes for your weight gain. Once you have them under control, if there is still a problem, look for non-obvious causes.
  • heatherheyns
    heatherheyns Posts: 144 Member
    A lot of people ask "Can I do this and still lose weight?" Well, that depends on you. Some people never track a single calorie their whole life and stay in a good range. Others need to count forever. Some can have a cheat meal and not track it every weekend, but for others it derails their deficit. So, the real question to ask, is "is this working for me?" And the answer right now for you, is no. So I'd suggest switching it up. My first suggestion would be to track your cheat meals. Eat like you normally would, but track the calories. That will let you get an idea of how much you're actually eating. The biggest reason people don't track cheat days is because they KNOW they'll be over, but no mater if you track or not, you are still going to have to deal with those extra calories. So, I'd suggest tracking, unless you can't for some reason (and usually you can still guess). That will let you know if your cheats are throwing off your balance, or if it is an issue with logging or over estimating exercise calories or something else
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