Sugar is the devil!
charcharodoncarcharia
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I just really want to reach a goal I have never seen. Trying to focus on clean eating is hard. I have this theory. Out of site out of mind. Until the husband brings it through the door lol
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Sugar is awesome and eat it daily.19
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No, not having self control is the devil, not sugar and hopefully not your husband.
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charcharodoncarcharia wrote: »I just really want to reach a goal I have never seen. Trying to focus on clean eating is hard. I have this theory. Out of site out of mind. Until the husband brings it through the door lol
I agree, it makes my self control completely out of control. I was the kid who used to hide in the pantry and kick sugar off my fingers. It is so hard to resist. When I eat keto my cravings are nil, moderation does not work for me.
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If sugar is the devil, my profile picture is pure evil.1
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Very true. It's an addiction moderation does not work. I did the same as a child. Teen. And young adult. Fearing it's coming back to haunt me again. Self control I can do. I've quit smoking successfully. Food. No. It's my comfort. I'm great until after supper.2
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here's my experience with moderation: I've learned that I can moderate the Ben & Jerry's mini cups, which do not come in my favorite flavors, but not the pints. So I don't buy the pints anymore. I have a big long list of treats I can moderate, and a smaller list of those I cannot. How I handle them is not having them in the house.
The following eliminated my sugar cravings:
1. Get sufficient sleep
2. Exercise regularly - when I get the happy hormones from exercise, I'm not prone to seeking them from food.
3. Get sufficient protein in relationship to carbs. I'm not low carb, but reducing carbs and upping protein worked for cravings for me. See also http://www.nutrition.org.uk/healthyliving/fuller/understanding-satiety-feeling-full-after-a-meal.html
4. Eat moderate amounts of fruit. This makes me less interested in higher calorie sweets.
5. Take a magnesium supplement. This can be especially helpful for women premenstrually.
6. Save foods like chocolate for after dinner, in small amounts17 -
kshama2001 wrote: »here's my experience with moderation: I've learned that I can moderate the Ben & Jerry's mini cups, which do not come in my favorite flavors, but not the pints. So I don't buy the pints anymore. I have a big long list of treats I can moderate, and a smaller list of those I cannot. How I handle them is not having them in the house.
The following eliminated my sugar cravings:
1. Get sufficient sleep
2. Exercise regularly - when I get the happy hormones from exercise, I'm not prone to seeking them from food.
3. Get sufficient protein in relationship to carbs. I'm not low carb, but reducing carbs and upping protein worked for cravings for me. See also http://www.nutrition.org.uk/healthyliving/fuller/understanding-satiety-feeling-full-after-a-meal.html
4. Eat moderate amounts of fruit. This makes me less interested in higher calorie sweets.
5. Take a magnesium supplement. This can be especially helpful for women premenstrually.
6. Save foods like chocolate for after dinner, in small amounts
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!! I was talking to my doctor about how I find it almost impossible to control my sugar urges with willpower after I get home from work, but feel totally in control during the day, and she mentioned this which I found fascinating:charcharodoncarcharia wrote: »I'm great until after supper.
"One of the most replicated findings in the field of willpower research is that people who use willpower seem to run out of it. Interestingly, any act of self-control leaves people with less willpower for completely unrelated challenges. Trying to control your temper, ignore distractions or refuse seconds all tap the same source of strength. The research also shows that willpower decreases over the course of the day, as your energy gets “spent” on stress and self-control. This has become known as “the muscle model” of willpower. Like your biceps or quadriceps the willpower “muscle” can get exhausted from effort."
See more at: http://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2011/12/29/a-conversation-about-the-science-of-willpower/#sthash.x9Ds9xSV.dpuf8 -
No, not having self control is the devil, not sugar and hopefully not your husband.
This 100%
There's no reason to fear any tasty foods after you've learned moderation and portion control. Those things take time to learn but are useful tools for longterm success. Imagine life without ever enjoying a cookie or ice cream or whatever favorite treat again ? How long would that last realistically ? Instead I learned how to enjoy the foods I love while still remaining within my calories /macros. No food is off limits for me because I realized how important it was to learn moderation instead of deprivation . I have been maintaining my goal weight for years while still enjoying the foods I love. At first I thought I had to give all the tasty foods up in order to lose weight. I tortured myself and it lead me to want those foods even more because I was depriving myself of them.now I have no fear because I learned all the necessary tools for success!7 -
I don't have junk food mainly sugary stuff very often, cant handle it, cant eat it in moderation. I have noticed a big difference in keeping my weight down when I don't eat it.1
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I slowly, and mean only 1 item per week, removed high sugar and high salt items from my intake at the beginning of my MFP journey. I'd gone without a sugary sweet component for several weeks when I decided to increase my fiber intake with prunes. Those are so sweet that now I call them my dessert. Recently I noticed that the brand of hot salsa I was using had sugar as an ingredient. It's the last one, but it's still in there. I've already purchased the replacement, Clint's, and will finish the previous in the next day or two. I kept a small candy in my plan until about a month into the plan, until one day I just didn't want it. I appreciate the sweetness of carrots now. Not candied, just cut and grilled.3
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I minimize sugar, but it's a balance with other foods, and exercise. For example, I make sure to have fiber in the meal, then walk afterwards if possible.
What has made you decide to watch sugar? I mean, I'm for doing that, but your post is pretty vague.
When I was very strict, I wouldn't even touch the foods I didn't want to eat. My hubbs had to start packing his own lunch for the first time in 10 years! I have kept this habit, to some degree, but I'm eating things now that I had excluded during weight-loss.0 -
charcharodoncarcharia wrote: »Very true. It's an addiction moderation does not work. I did the same as a child. Teen. And young adult. Fearing it's coming back to haunt me again. Self control I can do. I've quit smoking successfully. Food. No. It's my comfort. I'm great until after supper.
Are you logging? Do you weigh your food? Have you chosen a pattern for your eating, macro intake, types of food?
If you look at your day's meals, and there's nothing really substantial about your eating (ie, no veggies, scanty protein, calories too low, scared to eat fat), then maybe you need to establish a better diet that makes you feel satisfied?1 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »I slowly, and mean only 1 item per week, removed high sugar and high salt items from my intake at the beginning of my MFP journey. I'd gone without a sugary sweet component for several weeks when I decided to increase my fiber intake with prunes. Those are so sweet that now I call them my dessert. Recently I noticed that the brand of hot salsa I was using had sugar as an ingredient. It's the last one, but it's still in there. I've already purchased the replacement, Clint's, and will finish the previous in the next day or two. I kept a small candy in my plan until about a month into the plan, until one day I just didn't want it. I appreciate the sweetness of carrots now. Not candied, just cut and grilled.
I admire people who are measured, patient and methodical. I need to be more like that! When I change, it's all at once, probably due to impatience!!
Did you know that your taste-buds regenerate completely over the course of 2 weeks? So as you were making these changes to your diet, reducing sugar, your tastebuds adjusted to the new level of sweetness and previous treats seem too sweet, and a more plain diet seems tastier.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »here's my experience with moderation: I've learned that I can moderate the Ben & Jerry's mini cups, which do not come in my favorite flavors, but not the pints. So I don't buy the pints anymore. I have a big long list of treats I can moderate, and a smaller list of those I cannot. How I handle them is not having them in the house.
The following eliminated my sugar cravings:
1. Get sufficient sleep
2. Exercise regularly - when I get the happy hormones from exercise, I'm not prone to seeking them from food.
3. Get sufficient protein in relationship to carbs. I'm not low carb, but reducing carbs and upping protein worked for cravings for me. See also http://www.nutrition.org.uk/healthyliving/fuller/understanding-satiety-feeling-full-after-a-meal.html
4. Eat moderate amounts of fruit. This makes me less interested in higher calorie sweets.
5. Take a magnesium supplement. This can be especially helpful for women premenstrually.
6. Save foods like chocolate for after dinner, in small amounts
Excellent post. So very +1 (well, except #5, which I haven't tried, and I didn't start calorie counting until after menopause, besides).0 -
charcharodoncarcharia wrote: »Very true. It's an addiction moderation does not work. I did the same as a child. Teen. And young adult. Fearing it's coming back to haunt me again. Self control I can do. I've quit smoking successfully. Food. No. It's my comfort. I'm great until after supper.
Sugar addiction is not a thing.4 -
OP, when you're having problem with self control around it, it is the devil that stops your wt loss progress. It's really moot to say that it is not a problem if you can control it.
Like you, moderation doesn't work for me. I do not like half way enjoyment! So on my wt loss days I basically eat for nutrition only. I also use psychology to good effect. I can "turn off" my appetite for cakes by telling myself certain things, example "demonize" a cake which probably frowns lots of people. But then, I don't struggle with appetite, cut back, self control and the progress at all! Try that.1 -
No, its not, nor is any food which is eaten in moderation....4
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Pretending it doesn't exist is probably not the ideal way to deal with a problem.7
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I cut out most added sugar/processed sugar from my diet and haven't craved it once. I'm a person who, in the past had eaten 5 jam donuts in one day, so it's not like I didn't eat sugar in the past. I have 3 portions of fruit a day (rest in veg) the rest of my sugar intake makes up around 10g -20g from bread etc. I found after a few week I don't miss it at all.0
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charcharodoncarcharia wrote: »Very true. It's an addiction moderation does not work. I did the same as a child. Teen. And young adult. Fearing it's coming back to haunt me again. Self control I can do. I've quit smoking successfully. Food. No. It's my comfort. I'm great until after supper.
So what happens after supper? What is different at those hours vs the other hours of the day? Also, is it "sugar" that you go for (this would include fruit) or just any food?
If you really think you have a sugar addiction, go talk to an addiction counselor and get help. IMO, as a former smoker and comfort eater, you've traded eating for smoking. I know if I started smoking again, I wouldn't eat as much.0 -
I stopped regularly eating added sugars when someone said Dr. Robert Lustig. He's a pediatric endocrinologist who is truly anti-sugar. I watched a lecture he did on YouTube. Honestly, when I eat sugar, I crave sugar. When I don't eat it, I don't miss it. Have a sit down with your husband and a frank discussion.1
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I stopped regularly eating added sugars when someone said Dr. Robert Lustig. He's a pediatric endocrinologist who is truly anti-sugar. I watched a lecture he did on YouTube. Honestly, when I eat sugar, I crave sugar. When I don't eat it, I don't miss it. Have a sit down with your husband and a frank discussion.
Lustig is a fact twisting quack.8 -
Sugar is in fruits and vegetables. When I eat more vegetables I tend to crave them more often. Maybe it is the sugar!5
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The devil is a fictional character in a book.
Sugar is a macronutrient that our bodies can use for fuel.
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I like sugar.
I must be as evil as they come.1 -
The devil is a fallen angel as describe in the word of God.
Sugar is a macro that our bodies can use as fuel.
Sugar is worth tracking as limiting sugar may help you to have a healthier metabolism; it depends on how your body handles sugar.1 -
If sugar is the devil, a friend of the devil is a friend of mine
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Carlos_421 wrote: »charcharodoncarcharia wrote: »Sugar addiction is not a thing.
eh, refined sugar has highly physical addictive qualities..brain responds same way it does to heroin, cocaine, alcohol. Its classified by DSM. I'd say it qualifies.
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/addiction-sugar-acts-like-drug-in-the-brain-and-could-lead-to-addiction-091813
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/sugar-addictive-cocaine-heroin-studies-suggest-article-1.356819
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Carlos_421 wrote: »charcharodoncarcharia wrote: »Sugar addiction is not a thing.
eh, refined sugar has highly physical addictive qualities..brain responds same way it does to heroin, cocaine, alcohol. Its classified by DSM. I'd say it qualifies.
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/addiction-sugar-acts-like-drug-in-the-brain-and-could-lead-to-addiction-091813
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/sugar-addictive-cocaine-heroin-studies-suggest-article-1.356819
...ad infinitum
Your quote is goofed up.
I'm the one who said "Sugar addiction is not a thing."0
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