Are Monunsaturated and polyunsaturated fats bad for you?
Alanmackie49er
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Hi,
if I understand it correctly Myfitnesspal says we should not have any mono or polyunsaturated fats.
However, I use Huel when I cant get decent food and it has both and it is meant to be a balanced food stuff.
Can anyone help? (Huel wrong? Myfitnesspal wrong? Or not as simple as that?)
Thanks
if I understand it correctly Myfitnesspal says we should not have any mono or polyunsaturated fats.
However, I use Huel when I cant get decent food and it has both and it is meant to be a balanced food stuff.
Can anyone help? (Huel wrong? Myfitnesspal wrong? Or not as simple as that?)
Thanks
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Alanmackie49er wrote: »Hi,
if I understand it correctly Myfitnesspal says we should not have any mono or polyunsaturated fats.
However, I use Huel when I cant get decent food and it has both and it is meant to be a balanced food stuff.
Can anyone help? (Huel wrong? Myfitnesspal wrong? Or not as simple as that?)
Thanks
Why do you say MFP says mono or polyunsaturated fats are to be avoided? It normally doesn't even list them in the regular tracking window.
Poly and monounsaturated fat are both health fats. Generally when they replace saturated fat or refined carbohydrates in the diet, they tend to lead to improved health markers.1 -
It lists them in the iphone app as a goal of zero and if you have any it shows as negative and colours red just as happens if you have too many calories1
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I think you may be interpreting the red negative value on your macros as a bad thing, but it's more that MFP doesn't track any recommended intake values for poly and mono fats (I'm not even sure if there are recommended intake amounts) so when you have them it's shows as a red negative value. In this case just ignore them, poly's and mono's are classed as good fats and are desirable in your diet.0
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both are healthy fats.
Monounsaturated being olive oils, vegetable oils, etc. And polyunsaturated including oils like omega 3 and 6.
I think it is 0 simply because there is not a daily recommended amount for either.1 -
This is an issue I pointed out over one year ago in this thread, and MFP still has not corrected it.
The goals used to be and should be N/A (not applicable).
MFP doesn't seem to care that this issue is confusing users.
I have repeatedly tagged MFP Staff to ask when this is going to be fixed. I am just about ready to give up on pointing out this issue. @Alex @Nova4 -
Alanmackie49er wrote: »It lists them in the iphone app as a goal of zero and if you have any it shows as negative and colours red just as happens if you have too many calories
Ah, not an iPhone user and I tend to put most of MFP's red-light / green-light stuff on mental ignore as I don't like their percentages - I have target numbers in my head I look for, and I don't care to pay for premium to let me straight enter a fixed number of grams.
If you check the forums, and the blogs, I think MFP would generally endorse mono and polyunsaturated fats as good fats like most researcher is suggesting.
If you find yourself interested in an in depth read on them, I like Lyle McDonald's articles:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/a-primer-on-dietary-fats-part-2.html/
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Monosaturated fats are fine. Most polyunsaturated fats are bad, with the exception of fish oil.0
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This is an issue I pointed out over one year ago in this thread, and MFP still has not corrected it.
The goals used to be and should be N/A (not applicable).
MFP doesn't seem to care that this issue is confusing users.
I have repeatedly tagged MFP Staff to ask when this is going to be fixed. I am just about ready to give up on pointing out this issue. @Alex @Nova
I noticed that, after entering peanuts, I was already over the 0g mono/polyunsaturated fat allowance, immediately in the red. Why include it AND keep track of it if it "doesn't count". I understand that there is no official RDA for them, but they are essential, no? Why not provide a healthy guideline rather than a zero tolerance?
The more I use this app for what it is, the more disappointed I am. It's unfortunate that they don't care to fix issues that they request we provide. Don't just pretend to care about the issues, that doesn't help anyone.1 -
Hi folks,
Our apologies for any confusion with how Fat is tracked within the program. The Total Fat column represents the total of "Total Fat" as a category, but not necessarily the total of all the subcategories of fat.
The reason is that it is not mandatory that food nutritional labels include the breakdown of fat in the subcategories. However, if the information has been provided we will then show it in the subcategories.
As for the Saturated Fat, this is also still a subcategory of the total fat, with a limit. The goal is actually meant to be a limit. Unfortunately, there's not a very tidy way to make this evident, given the screen real estate available to apps, and our desire to keep the nutrition table neatly organized.
Our recommendation is that folks should not surpass the total fat goal in grams, and their intake of saturated fat (definitely the least healthy!) should not be more than a portion of that intake. This is why we put a "goal" on Saturated fat, and leave the other sub-categories without a goal. If users stay within (or under) the saturated fat goal, then the rest of their fat intake will naturally be from the more healthful options of mono or poly unsaturated fats.
So in summary the best way to look at the Fat category is that you should try not to surpass your "Total Fat", and while trying not to surpass that total, out of that number your Saturated Fat should not be more than the recommended amount.
The remaining sub categories will simply be a further breakdown of the fat when that information is available.
Hope this helps
Nova
MFP Staff2 -
The more I use this app for what it is, the more disappointed I am. It's unfortunate that they don't care to fix issues that they request we provide. Don't just pretend to care about the issues, that doesn't help anyone.
Please send us a message so the relevant team can help answer your questions. You can ask for help here: https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/ or here: https://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/emails/new0 -
The only fats to avoid are trans fats.1
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hassankarimi82 wrote: »The only fats to avoid are trans fats.
the current recommendation states that you should get less than 1% of your total intake from both saturated fats and trans fats.0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »hassankarimi82 wrote: »The only fats to avoid are trans fats.
the current recommendation states that you should get less than 1% of your total intake from both saturated fats and trans fats.
In the UK its 2%, but I wouldn't follow recommendations as gospel. Trans fats are uncommon in nature, meaning they are manufactured.0 -
Stay away from polysaturated fatty acid with high omega-6 :
The Good
Coconut, animal fat, ghee, olive oil, butter (all from grassfed and pasture raised animals that do NOT have an unnatural or processed veggie diet)
The Bad
Corn, vegetable, grapeseed, soybean oil
All promoting bad cholesterol and inflammation
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jessiethe3rd wrote: »Stay away from polysaturated fatty acid with high omega-6 :
Far too broad to say 'stay away'. That would mean you can't eat poultry, eggs, avocado, etc. Its the oils I'd limit. But still then, you'd be missing out on a lot of fun stuff. It's the manufactured crap you should stay away from.0 -
hassankarimi82 wrote: »jessiethe3rd wrote: »Stay away from polysaturated fatty acid with high omega-6 :
Far too broad to say 'stay away'. That would mean you can't eat poultry, eggs, avocado, etc. Its the oils I'd limit. But still then, you'd be missing out on a lot of fun stuff. It's the manufactured crap you should stay away from.
Indeed...
My understanding is that it's more about the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6, rather then the total amount of omega-6.2 -
This did throw me when I first signed up but it's pretty much impossible unless you don't have any fat in your diet, so I just assumed the guidelines weren't set.0
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Trans fats are bad, avoid them. Polyuns and Monouns are good. Sats are less good. Get your fats.2
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rainbowbow wrote: »hassankarimi82 wrote: »The only fats to avoid are trans fats.
the current recommendation states that you should get less than 1% of your total intake from both saturated fats and trans fats.
Really ? http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Saturated-Fats_UCM_301110_Article.jsp says :-What's my daily limit for foods with saturated fats?
The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat. That means, for example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fats. That’s about 13 grams of saturated fats a day.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/Eat-less-saturated-fat.aspx says :-We’re advised to eat less fat, especially saturated fat. UK health guidelines recommend that:
the average man should eat no more than 30g of saturated fat a day
the average woman should eat no more than 20g of saturated fat a day0 -
rainbowbow wrote: »hassankarimi82 wrote: »The only fats to avoid are trans fats.
the current recommendation states that you should get less than 1% of your total intake from both saturated fats and trans fats.
Really ? http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Saturated-Fats_UCM_301110_Article.jsp says :-What's my daily limit for foods with saturated fats?
The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat. That means, for example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fats. That’s about 13 grams of saturated fats a day.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/Eat-less-saturated-fat.aspx says :-We’re advised to eat less fat, especially saturated fat. UK health guidelines recommend that:
the average man should eat no more than 30g of saturated fat a day
the average woman should eat no more than 20g of saturated fat a day
Really?? I would be dead by now! I consume almost 200 grams of fat a day! And I have been doing this for the past 4 months! Since taking on a diet high in fat, I have lost 20 pounds, and 5% body fat! I went from 220, down to 200. I even decreased my visits to the gym from 5 days a week to 3 days. I am sorry, but this article has outdated material in it. Saturated fats are slowly becoming more accepted and the transition is pushing to limiting the intake of sugars. Research has concluded that saturated fats have zero correlation to heart disease or pre-mature death, yet we still say its bad, and we shouldn't eat it? Why. I want love to know! Saturated fat is not bad for you. trans fat? Yes, I do avoid that, but I am not scared to go out of my way to eat foods high in fat.2 -
rainbowbow wrote: »hassankarimi82 wrote: »The only fats to avoid are trans fats.
the current recommendation states that you should get less than 1% of your total intake from both saturated fats and trans fats.
Really ? http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Saturated-Fats_UCM_301110_Article.jsp says :-What's my daily limit for foods with saturated fats?
The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat. That means, for example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fats. That’s about 13 grams of saturated fats a day.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/Eat-less-saturated-fat.aspx says :-We’re advised to eat less fat, especially saturated fat. UK health guidelines recommend that:
the average man should eat no more than 30g of saturated fat a day
the average woman should eat no more than 20g of saturated fat a day
Whoops, i meant to type 10%**** not 1.
http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/
"Shift to reduce saturated fats intake to less than 10 percent of calories per day: Individuals should aim to shift food choices from those high in saturated fats to those high in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats."
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rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »hassankarimi82 wrote: »The only fats to avoid are trans fats.
the current recommendation states that you should get less than 1% of your total intake from both saturated fats and trans fats.
Really ? http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Saturated-Fats_UCM_301110_Article.jsp says :-What's my daily limit for foods with saturated fats?
The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat. That means, for example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fats. That’s about 13 grams of saturated fats a day.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/Eat-less-saturated-fat.aspx says :-We’re advised to eat less fat, especially saturated fat. UK health guidelines recommend that:
the average man should eat no more than 30g of saturated fat a day
the average woman should eat no more than 20g of saturated fat a day
Whoops, i meant to type 10%**** not 1.
http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/
"Shift to reduce saturated fats intake to less than 10 percent of calories per day: Individuals should aim to shift food choices from those high in saturated fats to those high in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats."
Consumer brochure.1 -
hassankarimi82 wrote: »jessiethe3rd wrote: »Stay away from polysaturated fatty acid with high omega-6 :
Far too broad to say 'stay away'. That would mean you can't eat poultry, eggs, avocado, etc. Its the oils I'd limit. But still then, you'd be missing out on a lot of fun stuff. It's the manufactured crap you should stay away from.hassankarimi82 wrote: »jessiethe3rd wrote: »Stay away from polysaturated fatty acid with high omega-6 :
Far too broad to say 'stay away'. That would mean you can't eat poultry, eggs, avocado, etc. Its the oils I'd limit. But still then, you'd be missing out on a lot of fun stuff. It's the manufactured crap you should stay away from.
Indeed...
My understanding is that it's more about the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6, rather then the total amount of omega-6.
I stand corrected.hassankarimi82 wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »rainbowbow wrote: »hassankarimi82 wrote: »The only fats to avoid are trans fats.
the current recommendation states that you should get less than 1% of your total intake from both saturated fats and trans fats.
Really ? http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Saturated-Fats_UCM_301110_Article.jsp says :-What's my daily limit for foods with saturated fats?
The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat. That means, for example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fats. That’s about 13 grams of saturated fats a day.
http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Pages/Eat-less-saturated-fat.aspx says :-We’re advised to eat less fat, especially saturated fat. UK health guidelines recommend that:
the average man should eat no more than 30g of saturated fat a day
the average woman should eat no more than 20g of saturated fat a day
Whoops, i meant to type 10%**** not 1.
http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/
"Shift to reduce saturated fats intake to less than 10 percent of calories per day: Individuals should aim to shift food choices from those high in saturated fats to those high in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats."
Consumer brochure.
But they want us fat.
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Higher ratio of mono to polyunsaturated is supposed to help improve your HDL (good) cholesterol levels0
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