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Why intermittent fasting is so popular now?
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I did it and managed my weight for a while without counting calories. I'd have a mid day protein low carb snack, then eat whatever I wanted dinner 6-7. This included a big carb portion, big dessert, chocolate so I think I was eating lowish protein, and lots of sugar. I'd get a food coma after and slept better than I do now. So a 17/7 16/8. I'd get pretty manic in the day from the starvation high. This woe allowed me to eat the same as my 6'3" partner at dinner together.
Downsides. No energy for proper cardio training. Hellish mood swings and HANGER. Big blood sugar surges and drops. Evenings wiped out.
My thoughts. I think evolutionary men tend to do better with this, as they would have been out hunting all day and not eating, with a big meal later, but obvs not cheesecake, wine and chocolate.
Women maybe would be grazing more?
Who knows. It worked for me for a few years. I worried about getting diabetes.
Nowadays I am happy having a 900 calorie high carb breakfast at 5am then training, a normal lunch and a smallish dinner then greek yoghurt, 100 plus G protein a day. I still get hungry but it doesn't make me dizzy or unbearably grumpy.
Also my silent migraines have stopped. I used to get such bad vision disturbance. Not a fan of low carb and IF or anything fast based!
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well, there are some studies being done about the impact of diets on our body - lean muscle v fat... and if I'm remembering correctly, a couple have shown that if calories in is kept the same, IF will cause a bigger decrease in fat and less decrease in muscle, compared to just less calories. There's apparently some work being done to show that, keeping calorie input the same, simply having 3 spaced out meals a day (no snacks) is better (less inflammation markers in blood, less body fat %) than having a lot of smaller meals through the day.
Look, IDK, but if it works for you then go for it.
If I were back int the cave man era, I would totally graze on cheesecake and chocolate all day. I'd replace the wine with beer, but still...mmmmm grazing cheesecake.0 -
Springfield1970 wrote: »I did it and managed my weight for a while without counting calories. I'd have a mid day protein low carb snack, then eat whatever I wanted dinner 6-7. This included a big carb portion, big dessert, chocolate so I think I was eating lowish protein, and lots of sugar. I'd get a food coma after and slept better than I do now. So a 17/7 16/8. I'd get pretty manic in the day from the starvation high. This woe allowed me to eat the same as my 6'3" partner at dinner together.
Downsides. No energy for proper cardio training. Hellish mood swings and HANGER. Big blood sugar surges and drops. Evenings wiped out.
My thoughts. I think evolutionary men tend to do better with this, as they would have been out hunting all day and not eating, with a big meal later, but obvs not cheesecake, wine and chocolate.
Women maybe would be grazing more?
Who knows. It worked for me for a few years. I worried about getting diabetes.
Nowadays I am happy having a 900 calorie high carb breakfast at 5am then training, a normal lunch and a smallish dinner then greek yoghurt, 100 plus G protein a day. I still get hungry but it doesn't make me dizzy or unbearably grumpy.
Also my silent migraines have stopped. I used to get such bad vision disturbance. Not a fan of low carb and IF or anything fast based!
I don't remember where, but I have read some articles about IF that said it might not work as well for women, that most of the studies done on IF only involved men and that there may be a hormonal issue with women that wasn't taken into consideration. Wish I could remember where I saw that!0 -
I eat between 1p - 7p. The rest of the time it's coffee (mornings) and sparkling water (the rest of the day). Why? Because I am just not THAT hungry in the morning, and I really do like being able to eat most of my calories in the evenings. I am down 27 lbs since 1/5/16.5
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I IF & train fasted (leangains) because it works for me and I enjoy it. Been at it for a solid 6+ years now and won't eat/train any other way.
But in the end, just eat/train however the hell you want... if you don't enjoy something, what's the likelihood you'll stick to it? Find what works for YOU and run with it.3 -
Or there could be a simpler explanation. We are a generation of drunks using the calories saved on intermittent fasting days and blowing them non fasting days by binging on booze?1
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Springfield1970 wrote: »I did it and managed my weight for a while without counting calories. I'd have a mid day protein low carb snack, then eat whatever I wanted dinner 6-7. This included a big carb portion, big dessert, chocolate so I think I was eating lowish protein, and lots of sugar. I'd get a food coma after and slept better than I do now. So a 17/7 16/8. I'd get pretty manic in the day from the starvation high. This woe allowed me to eat the same as my 6'3" partner at dinner together.
Downsides. No energy for proper cardio training. Hellish mood swings and HANGER. Big blood sugar surges and drops. Evenings wiped out.
My thoughts. I think evolutionary men tend to do better with this, as they would have been out hunting all day and not eating, with a big meal later, but obvs not cheesecake, wine and chocolate.
Women maybe would be grazing more?
Who knows. It worked for me for a few years. I worried about getting diabetes.
Nowadays I am happy having a 900 calorie high carb breakfast at 5am then training, a normal lunch and a smallish dinner then greek yoghurt, 100 plus G protein a day. I still get hungry but it doesn't make me dizzy or unbearably grumpy.
Also my silent migraines have stopped. I used to get such bad vision disturbance. Not a fan of low carb and IF or anything fast based!
I don't remember where, but I have read some articles about IF that said it might not work as well for women, that most of the studies done on IF only involved men and that there may be a hormonal issue with women that wasn't taken into consideration. Wish I could remember where I saw that!
There seems to have been ONE blog about that that everyone seems to quote. But nothing following up on that, except for folks re-quoting that.1 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Springfield1970 wrote: »I did it and managed my weight for a while without counting calories. I'd have a mid day protein low carb snack, then eat whatever I wanted dinner 6-7. This included a big carb portion, big dessert, chocolate so I think I was eating lowish protein, and lots of sugar. I'd get a food coma after and slept better than I do now. So a 17/7 16/8. I'd get pretty manic in the day from the starvation high. This woe allowed me to eat the same as my 6'3" partner at dinner together.
Downsides. No energy for proper cardio training. Hellish mood swings and HANGER. Big blood sugar surges and drops. Evenings wiped out.
My thoughts. I think evolutionary men tend to do better with this, as they would have been out hunting all day and not eating, with a big meal later, but obvs not cheesecake, wine and chocolate.
Women maybe would be grazing more?
Who knows. It worked for me for a few years. I worried about getting diabetes.
Nowadays I am happy having a 900 calorie high carb breakfast at 5am then training, a normal lunch and a smallish dinner then greek yoghurt, 100 plus G protein a day. I still get hungry but it doesn't make me dizzy or unbearably grumpy.
Also my silent migraines have stopped. I used to get such bad vision disturbance. Not a fan of low carb and IF or anything fast based!
I don't remember where, but I have read some articles about IF that said it might not work as well for women, that most of the studies done on IF only involved men and that there may be a hormonal issue with women that wasn't taken into consideration. Wish I could remember where I saw that!
There seems to have been ONE blog about that that everyone seems to quote. But nothing following up on that, except for folks re-quoting that.
So I probably read an article, a blog quoting the article, and a blog quoting the blog that quoted the article3 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Springfield1970 wrote: »I did it and managed my weight for a while without counting calories. I'd have a mid day protein low carb snack, then eat whatever I wanted dinner 6-7. This included a big carb portion, big dessert, chocolate so I think I was eating lowish protein, and lots of sugar. I'd get a food coma after and slept better than I do now. So a 17/7 16/8. I'd get pretty manic in the day from the starvation high. This woe allowed me to eat the same as my 6'3" partner at dinner together.
Downsides. No energy for proper cardio training. Hellish mood swings and HANGER. Big blood sugar surges and drops. Evenings wiped out.
My thoughts. I think evolutionary men tend to do better with this, as they would have been out hunting all day and not eating, with a big meal later, but obvs not cheesecake, wine and chocolate.
Women maybe would be grazing more?
Who knows. It worked for me for a few years. I worried about getting diabetes.
Nowadays I am happy having a 900 calorie high carb breakfast at 5am then training, a normal lunch and a smallish dinner then greek yoghurt, 100 plus G protein a day. I still get hungry but it doesn't make me dizzy or unbearably grumpy.
Also my silent migraines have stopped. I used to get such bad vision disturbance. Not a fan of low carb and IF or anything fast based!
I don't remember where, but I have read some articles about IF that said it might not work as well for women, that most of the studies done on IF only involved men and that there may be a hormonal issue with women that wasn't taken into consideration. Wish I could remember where I saw that!
There seems to have been ONE blog about that that everyone seems to quote. But nothing following up on that, except for folks re-quoting that.
So I probably read an article, a blog quoting the article, and a blog quoting the blog that quoted the article
You and me both.0 -
ArmyofAdrian wrote: »Because the thought of eating 6-8 small meals a per day for the rest of your life is absurd. IF on the other hand is simple and sustainable.
Bless anyone who can do IF, but it would be neither simple nor sustainable for me. On a typical day, I need breakfast when I wake up, I am hungry at 11 (snack), hungry for lunch, hungry at 3 (snack), and hungry for dinner. I am a hangry, hangry person if I don't quell the ghrelin in my stomach. I could never make it to 2:00 pm without eating and NOT bite someone's head off, and I am fairly certain that once I did eat, I would have no problem eating twice my allotted calories for the day. Binge city.
It's why I'm a fan of CICO - you can eat whatever you want, whatever time of day you want, however many times per day, as long as you burn more calories than you consume in said day. A highly customizable, sustainable, and simple plan that works for everyone.3 -
LuckyNumbers wrote: »ArmyofAdrian wrote: »Because the thought of eating 6-8 small meals a per day for the rest of your life is absurd. IF on the other hand is simple and sustainable.
Bless anyone who can do IF, but it would be neither simple nor sustainable for me. On a typical day, I need breakfast when I wake up, I am hungry at 11 (snack), hungry for lunch, hungry at 3 (snack), and hungry for dinner. I am a hangry, hangry person if I don't quell the ghrelin in my stomach. I could never make it to 2:00 pm without eating and NOT bite someone's head off, and I am fairly certain that once I did eat, I would have no problem eating twice my allotted calories for the day. Binge city.
It's why I'm a fan of CICO - you can eat whatever you want, whatever time of day you want, however many times per day, as long as you burn more calories than you consume in said day. A highly customizable, sustainable, and simple plan that works for everyone.
+1 for me. That's why we're allowed to eat however we want - because each person needs to find what works for them. IF seems like torture to me because I hate feeling full or feeling hungry. But I can see how it works for a lot of people.1 -
I have been eating on an IF schedule for about 25 years. I have maintained, gained and lost weight eating this way.
I eat too much if I try to eat 3 meals a day on what is considered the normal schedule.0 -
The PM eating thing is *huuuge* for me. It's nice having wiggle room in my calories when I need it most.
I have been experimenting with IF (depending on your view of butter in coffee and whether that officially "breaks" the fast.) I like it. I like it a lot. Of course, I liked eating three eggs scrambled in cheese for breakfast as well.
The cool thing is that one can experiment what fits their diet and lifestyle. I exercise on the 16th hour and that seems to be going just fine (HIIT, 25 minutes).1 -
It seems IF is just a mini way of doing full time nutritional ketosis or can be done on top of nutritional ketosis perhaps to lower insulin even more since fat cannot readily be lost if insulin levels are elevated. Any way of eating that triggers Chaperone Mediated Autophagy (CMA) is thought to be life extending.
nature.com/cr/journal/v24/n1/full/cr2013153a.html0 -
I don't like eating breakfast either.. but now I have a fancy term to tell people what diet I'm on instead of having them glaze over when the words "eat less than you burn" fly out of my mouth... now I'll dazzle em with *kitten*!0
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I have never eaten breakfast. I found that some days I was skipping lunch because of my work situation, and I could wait until supper when I got home around 6:00 pm to eat and have a snack around 9 or 10 pm before bed. Now I plan my daily calories to miss lunch and breakfast.0
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Blame The Hodgetwins0
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I don't remember where, but I have read some articles about IF that said it might not work as well for women, that most of the studies done on IF only involved men and that there may be a hormonal issue with women that wasn't taken into consideration. Wish I could remember where I saw that!
ADF study would be my guess, let's try Varady... https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2891-12-146 has women in it but didn't comment on adverse effects with women. - Has plenty of links to the (few) other ADF studies.
http://jdmdonline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2251-6581-12-4 is in women and references Heilbronn http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/oby.2005.61/full who observed that "Alternate day fasting may adversely affect glucose tolerance in nonobese women but not in nonobese men" :-
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Intermittent fasting isn't a fad or a gimmick or whatever.
IMost of you have probably overlooked why it is called breakfast.
I/F isn't rocket science, it works. I also am able to eat like I normally would for dinner, except while eating only once a day. Works great for me2 -
Because skinny jeans just won't seem to go away.0
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ArmyofAdrian wrote: »Because the thought of eating 6-8 small meals a per day for the rest of your life is absurd. IF on the other hand is simple and sustainable.
By why the rules to begin with? I don't eat breakfast. I'm usually not hungry until lunch. I save most of my calories for dinner. I don't need some arbitrary rules or plan to let me eat when I'm hungry and not eat when I'm not hungry. Depending on the source you read, there is a lot, and I mean A LOT of unfounded woo theory and rule making in IF.1 -
I did IF for a number of years and it worked great. At that time for whatever reason I was not not much for breakfast so doing a daily 16/8 was perfect.
Now, again for whatever reason, want to eat within a few hours of getting up. At first I fought it, was miserable and it sucked. Finally gave in by respecting the changes and did not allow myself to get caught up in the dogma (that goes for all diets).
Would I do it again? Sure! If at some point my hunger patters and lifestyle allow it.3 -
I fast from 9pm to 9am. I'm usually busy sleeping or watching TV. I'm a warrior.5
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it releases people from the culturally conditioned 3 meals a day at assigned times eating plan. I am almost never ready to eat at "normal" times. I naturally gravitate towards a late lunch and early dinner and skipping breakfast. I just have a name for it now.4
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I recently started IF-ing with a Paleo diet spread. Wow!1
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Lol, in response to the Biggest Loser study, Bob Harper recommends IF:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bob-harper-addresses-that-biggest-loser-study-on-slow-metabolism_us_5736212ee4b077d4d6f30c9d
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I love it. I do if in a 5:2. And I've been dropping fat like crazy0
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There was an interesting article though about the rebound impact of IF where your metabolic rate can be suppressed and gain more weight when you stop etc.0
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