What's wrong with benching in the rack?

distinctlybeautiful
distinctlybeautiful Posts: 1,041 Member
edited May 2016 in Fitness and Exercise
I couldn't filter through that gym etiquette post to find a consensus.

I fully intend to use the rack for benching once my husband goes away for work. How else am I supposed to safely increase my weight without a spotter?

I'm not sure what the number of racks or how busy the gym is has to do with it. If I'm using it for a legitimate reason, I feel I have just as much right to it as anyone else. My not using it in the most typical way doesn't make my need for it any less than anyone else's need. Isn't it called a power rack, not just a squat rack anyway?

I fully intend to let other people work in if asked. And to move my bench out of the way and unload my weights. It sounds like that makes it more acceptable, but I got the sense from that other thread that it's generally frowned upon.

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  • hill8570
    hill8570 Posts: 1,466 Member
    edited May 2016
    OK, two different scenarios here:

    First: benching at home alone. Yeah, of course you lift in the power rack with the safeties.

    Second: benching at the gym. It's a judgement call. IMHO, if the gym is crowded enough that there are folks waiting for a power rack, it's more polite to ask for a spot if you're not sure you're going to make all your reps -- you can safely bench without a power rack if you have a spotter (hell, I never use a spotter -- that's what the roll of shame is for), but it's nearly impossible to safely spot a squat, so a power or squat rack is the only option.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    if there are bench presses at your gym, and you tie up a squat rack benching, you prevent people from squatting and they dont have the option to use the bench to squat. But if you gotta bench in it, its first come first serve at most gyms everyone man for themselves and screw everyone else.
    However if i had to bench in the squat rack and others were around waiting to squat, i'd have it set up so they could squat between my sets. its easy enough to pull out the bench so they can take a turn.

  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    hill8570 wrote: »
    , but it's nearly impossible to safely spot a squat, .

    huh? we safely spot squats all day long.

  • chocolate_owl
    chocolate_owl Posts: 1,695 Member
    There's one squat rack and one power rack in my gym. They're both heavily used by people doing rows and leg work - since we don't have individual Oly bars, deadlifts usually get done there as well. But we have three flat benches, 2 incline, and 1 decline set up for bench press. If someone were to tie up the power rack to bench, especially if they're benching a weight that could be easily spotted, it would be annoying. If your gym has more than enough power racks to go around or if you're working out at an off-peak hour, it's not a problem.

    (I don't think the issue is as much spotting the squat as being able to get your body under a really heavy bar. There's a limited number of places you can rack a bar high enough to get under it safely.)
  • hill8570
    hill8570 Posts: 1,466 Member
    edited May 2016
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    hill8570 wrote: »
    , but it's nearly impossible to safely spot a squat, .

    huh? we safely spot squats all day long.

    I'm probably generalizing way too much. At my gym, I can't think of anyone other than the trainers who I would trust to do a single-person spot on the squat, and they tend to be pretty busy. Pretty much any random bro can do a sorta-kinda OK spot on the bench, even tho it seems like most of them can't help but fondle the bar after the hand-off. But I digress...
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    meh. don't worry about that thread. don't worry about the made up rules in other people's minds. you get to the rack first, then go ahead and bench in the rack and don't worry about. you can bench there safely and that's what it's for. and overhead press there if you want. and bro curl and inverted sit up in there, for all i care. if it wasn't in use before you got there it's yours to do as you wish.
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    I used the rack and I'll do inclines in it too. I don't trust anyone but my training partners, who I can't always train with, to do it correctly.
  • Willbenchforcupcakes
    Willbenchforcupcakes Posts: 4,955 Member
    Absolutely nothing wrong with benching in a rack. Back when I was at a commercial gym, I would just tell people I trust metal more than humans. Now, I spend most of my time benching on a competition rack and the point is mute. If I can't for whatever reason (either someone is squatting or has bands set up), I just set up in one of the power racks. No big deal.
  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    sometimes you gotta bench in the squat rack just for fun, even with a spotter

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  • SonyaCele
    SonyaCele Posts: 2,841 Member
    i know huh! i don't know why she had that on the program for the day, she said it would be fun, and it was . i suppose it did something good for my chest, but who knows.
  • distinctlybeautiful
    distinctlybeautiful Posts: 1,041 Member
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.
  • beautifulwarrior18
    beautifulwarrior18 Posts: 914 Member
    edited May 2016
    There's nothing wrong with benching in the rack so long as there are enough racks to go around. If you go to a gym that has one squat rack and multiple bench press areas set up don't bench in the rack. The reason people criticize it is often times people benching in the rack doesn't allow others to squat in it. But if you go to a gym with multiple racks it's really not a problem. Though to be fair you don't really need a rack to squat either. The gym I go to just has rigs. No safeties. If you need a spotter you ask someone or two.
  • beautifulwarrior18
    beautifulwarrior18 Posts: 914 Member
    SonyaCele wrote: »
    hill8570 wrote: »
    , but it's nearly impossible to safely spot a squat, .

    huh? we safely spot squats all day long.

    I was thinking the same thing. It's super easy to spot a back squat especially if you have two spotters.
  • ArmyofAdrian
    ArmyofAdrian Posts: 177 Member
    edited May 2016
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.

    So you understand you could simply ask for a spot, but you're going to hog up the squat rack for something other than squats anyway. I don't have much sympathy. That's just how I feel.
  • distinctlybeautiful
    distinctlybeautiful Posts: 1,041 Member
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.

    So you understand you could simply ask for a spot, but you're going to hog up the squat rack for something other than squats anyway. I don't have much sympathy. That's just how I feel.

    No, sir. I'm going to use the power rack and share with whoever asks to work in :)
  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.

    I understand your reluctance to use a spotter but, I've met some pretty nice people, and learnt some good stuff about training by asking folk to spot me. If I see someone struggling or going for a max lift, I'll proactively volunteer to spot for them, the way I see it, they are much more likely to spot for me when I need it.

    Challenge yourself to grab a spotter and have a conversation with them next time - you might love it.

    As for using the squat rack for stuff other than squatting - if you need that piece of kit you need it and should use it. I use it for OH presses because I struggle to clean, what I can OH press. As @nakedraygun says - curls in the rack = No.
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.

    I understand your reluctance to use a spotter but, I've met some pretty nice people, and learnt some good stuff about training by asking folk to spot me. If I see someone struggling or going for a max lift, I'll proactively volunteer to spot for them, the way I see it, they are much more likely to spot for me when I need it.

    Challenge yourself to grab a spotter and have a conversation with them next time - you might love it.

    As for using the squat rack for stuff other than squatting - if you need that piece of kit you need it and should use it. I use it for OH presses because I struggle to clean, what I can OH press. As @nakedraygun says - curls in the rack = No.

    There's no excuse to curl in the rack.

    Although a friend of mine did in a gym that was dead at that time. A curl mockingly gave him grief for it. My friend just said "when you can squat more than I can curl, you can have it."
  • Shawshankcan
    Shawshankcan Posts: 900 Member
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.

    So you understand you could simply ask for a spot, but you're going to hog up the squat rack for something other than squats anyway. I don't have much sympathy. That's just how I feel.

    I could, but no matter how direct I am with my instructions, people don't listen. It's really
    Bloody simple - unless the bar is ok my throat and I am turning blue, don't touch my bar.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Regarding "safely spotting a squat" it depends on what type of gym you are at.

    It's hard enough getting a competent bench spotter -- unless I'm at a powerlifting gym the odds of getting a competent spotter on a squat are pretty darn low in my opinion.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,982 Member
    Nothing wrong with benching in a rack. Just make sure you move the bench when you're done.

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  • AlphaCajun
    AlphaCajun Posts: 290 Member
    Nothing wrong with it at all. Do your thing.
  • ArmyofAdrian
    ArmyofAdrian Posts: 177 Member
    edited May 2016
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.

    So you understand you could simply ask for a spot, but you're going to hog up the squat rack for something other than squats anyway. I don't have much sympathy. That's just how I feel.

    No, sir. I'm going to use the power rack and share with whoever asks to work in :)

    Which means you'll have to move the bench, move the safety bars, move the bar rack up, change the weights out, and then reverse the process between each set. That's completely unreasonable and you know it. No one's going to bother to ask to work in because they're not going to want to deal with all that crap. All to save you the "massive" inconvenience of asking someone for a spot once in awhile.
  • ArmyofAdrian
    ArmyofAdrian Posts: 177 Member
    Thanks for y'all's opinions :) I don't think I'd ever ask a stranger to spot for me for a few reasons. One, I don't think I'd trust it as much. Two, I don't like to ask people for help, especially strangers, so I'd be more worried about taking up their time than my own lift. And last, I don't think anyone would have the patience to spot me! I can be pretty slow when it comes to increasing my weight because I'm gonna get all my reps in no matter how many times I gotta put it down in between!

    I do appreciate the perspective on using the rack when I could just get a spotter. I guess I just figure if you're going to be annoyed instead of asking me to work in, I don't have much sympathy. No offense intended. That's just how I feel.

    So you understand you could simply ask for a spot, but you're going to hog up the squat rack for something other than squats anyway. I don't have much sympathy. That's just how I feel.

    I could, but no matter how direct I am with my instructions, people don't listen. It's really
    Bloody simple - unless the bar is ok my throat and I am turning blue, don't touch my bar.

    Find a better gym.